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Model 110 E .30-06 Good value as Starter Savage
So I was in the LGS today,and I saw a Savage Model 110 E Serial E814071. It is in caliber .30-06.
They want $229 for it. Don't own a Savage(yet) but the bug has bitten. This only my second thread, so please bear with any ignorance.
The bluing is good, but the stock is ugly as sin. The wood is nice, but it seems that the varnish?, clear coat? is non-existent. Has a scope mount and rings, but they don't really match up to the ejection port. It has already been tapped for sights(factory), and all of the non-used srews are still in place.
The important part is that the rifling is really nice, and the bolt is smooth as silk. The trigger to me seems very light, with almost no travel to it. They said the guy used it for target shooting, so maybe a diferent trigger?
It has in internal magazine.
Is this a good price? Could I eventually swap the barrel and stock over to a .308 or .358 long distance setup and still keep the total investment under $1000?
Thanks again for all the input!
David
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Re: Model 110 E .30-06 Good value as Starter Savage
A good price. Yes. See my addition to your previous post. Keep in mind what is there is strictly my opinion, I am sure you will get others.
El Lobo
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WestPat,
Where is this LGS you speak of...address, phone number...I want to go ahead and BUY that gun for $229 and have it shipped to my FFL...just kidding...MAN YOU CANT BUY A BARE SAVAGE ACTION FOR THAT...BUY THE GUN AND DONT LOOK BACK...
Capt Beach
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I will be glad to let you know as soon as I buy it! 8) ;D :D
Birmingham Pistol Wholesale in Trussville AL.
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I was jus kiddin...BUY THAT DAMNED THING AND DONT LOOK BACK...hell of a deal...
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That is an excellent buy. I own a 110E with a number just a few digits higher than yours, in the same caliber. If you get to checking on it you will find it dates to the early 80's ... 83 if I remember correctly. they are excellent shooters right off the bat, if you upgrade the optics, you might not even want to change the rest of the rifle. (yes I do know that the .308 shoots flatter, but you can still get more than enough accuracy to take a deer at 600 without changing parts.
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Sounds like I will be learning on this one for a while. I am good out to 100yds, but I have access to lanes up to 500yds. So I look forward to enjoying it as it is, and upgrading as my skills catch up with the rifle.
Thanks,
David
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Originally Posted by etumil
(yes I do know that the .308 shoots flatter, but you can still get more than enough accuracy to take a deer at 600 without changing parts.
Huh?
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(yes I do know that the .308 shoots flatter, but you can still get more than enough accuracy to take a deer at 600 without changing parts.
Huh?
I'm with you stangfish.
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Originally Posted by JackinSD
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(yes I do know that the .308 shoots flatter, but you can still get more than enough accuracy to take a deer at 600 without changing parts.
Huh?
I'm with you stangfish.
The OP asked about switching to a .308 I was simply mentioning that with a little practice on the rifle and some good loads, you do not need to switch to a .308
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I say buy it. My first donor was the same thing with a scope that rattled for $249.I replaced just about everything on it so far and rebarreled to 308.If there's something you don't like,just change it. I'm hooked!
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Went by the gun store today and put it on hold. I will get it in a couple of weeks when I get my bonus from work. Thanks to everyone for the input and reassurance. I am really excited to shoot it and I will share my results.
Also another added value I suppose is that it has a Leupold base and scope rings for the 110. It looked funny to me, but I cross referenced it with MidwayUSA. I have a cheap but decent scope to start out with.
I will keep everyone posted.
Thanks,
David
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Originally Posted by etumil
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Originally Posted by etumil
(yes I do know that the .308 shoots flatter, but you can still get more than enough accuracy to take a deer at 600 without changing parts.
Huh?
I'm with you stangfish.
The OP asked about switching to a .308 I was simply mentioning that with a little practice on the rifle and some good loads, you do not need to switch to a .308
I thought you were saying the 308 shoots flatter than the 30-06.
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Originally Posted by JackinSD
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Originally Posted by etumil
(yes I do know that the .308 shoots flatter, but you can still get more than enough accuracy to take a deer at 600 without changing parts.
Huh?
I'm with you stangfish.
The OP asked about switching to a .308 I was simply mentioning that with a little practice on the rifle and some good loads, you do not need to switch to a .308
I thought you were saying the 308 shoots flatter than the 30-06.
It does, but unless you are shooting competition with handloads, you probably would not even notice it.
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I guess I need to get one of those flat shooting .308's that magically shoot flatter than a 30-06. My 30-06 shoots 180 gr bullets flatter than my .308 shoots 165 gr bullets.
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Originally Posted by etumil
It does, but unless you are shooting competition with handloads, you probably would not even notice it.
May want to check that out again and verify that.
To the OP; good deal on the rifle. A taker for sure. I would imagine you could be accurate to 500yds while still meeting your budget. One area that may break the budget is the scope. Depending on how serious you get into long range shooting would be the determining factor, whether or not to spend good $$$ on a real nice scope that would take you out of the budget.
Hopefully it turns out to be a shooter.
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It does, but unless you are shooting competition with handloads, you probably would not even notice it.
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Please define the scenario where your claim happens?
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Here is another question that may need a new thread. While I was talking to someone I know that shoots long range competitively he mentioned that I should shoot on the side of my dominant eye. I am a lefty in writing and eating, but everything else, including shooting, is righty. I have also come to find that I am left eye dominant. I have compensated for this with my pistol stance, but I have always shot right handed with left eye closed in my limited experience with a scope.
Would there be a real advantage to training myself to shoot left handed? All other long guns I have are RH.
Looking through a scope there seems to be no difference in clarity and sharpness whether I use my right or left eye, and the other eye closed.
If I try to keep both eyes open, there is no doubt that whatever the left eye is looking at is the dominant image.
Any and all advice is appreciated.
David
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For what its worth, I am right handed and left eye dominant. I have always shot with the right eye rifle and pistol. I made pistol master shooting right eye. And I have been shooting for 60 yrs. I have implants in both eyes due to diabetis going on 22 yrs.
El Lobo
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To the OP: I, too, just acquired an older (F-series) 30-06 at my states first Fish & Game auction as a 'learning' tool.
The finish on the birch stock is time consuming to remove and I may go with the something like a Minwax dk. walnut or ebony to cover it up. The wood is easy to shape with some sharp gouges & sand paper so the barrel nut doesn't rest on the wood and maybe some bedding gel could help.
The stock trigger is easy enough to adjust for hunting purposes while the rest of it is so darn easy to work on I can't understand why it was so darn filthy when I got it.
Once I make the stock components as good as they're gonna get (meaning I've 'touched & messed with'), then the 'modding' begins for a 'switch-everything' gun.
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Sorry, but there is NO WAY, when using same length barrels and bullet weights, that the 308 is physically capable of shooting flatter than the 30-06. Not when the 308 will ALWAYS lag behind by 100-200fps.
Although the difference in speed, to many, is marginal, it is still enough to give the edge to the '06, always. Accuracy, is a never ending argument, but that has nothing to do with flatter shooting.
There isn't even an argument of better ballistic design bullets, because ANY bullet the 308 shoots, the 30-06 WILL shoot faster.
Sorry, but not possible.
Oh, and for the OP, as they have said buy it! Darn good deal.
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Think i need to look into the magic bullets hes shooting outa that 308 ,oh wait a minute ican shoot those outa my 30-06 faster never mind ha ha
Gary
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Unless, forgot about the other 308. The 308 norma mag,now that one should ,should shoot flatter than the 308 w.
Gary
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(yes I do know that the .308 shoots flatter, but you can still get more than enough accuracy to take a deer at 600 without changing parts.
Huh?
I'm with you stangfish.
The OP asked about switching to a .308 I was simply mentioning that with a little practice on the rifle and some good loads, you do not need to switch to a .308
I thought you were saying the 308 shoots flatter than the 30-06.
It does, but unless you are shooting competition with handloads, you probably would not even notice it.
Huh? How does an identical projectile doing 150-200 fps slower at the muzzle shoot flatter? ???
To the OP... unless you're looking at a custom, no one buys a Savage for the wood or finish... we buy 'em for the accuracy! You'll love the cartridge, too... it'll send 'em a tad faster than the 308 Win so you ought not have an issue w/ LR, either.
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I also have an E series in -06. Great rifle. For the stock issue, I just went ahead and got a boyds (I'm a rightie, but shoot left handed - always did for rifles. Pistols I shoot right because as a kid in the late 50's early 60's you couldn't get a left handed cowboy rig very easy...)
You will enjoy how well this rifle shoots. And there isn't anything the .308 can do that the .30 of 06 hasn't already done...and vice versa.
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see Mrs Wilson, I was listening when we talked about Newton.
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My apologies to everyone, I have been sick lately.
Also, my apologies on the misinformation. I went back and double checked my info, and I managed to get my info wrong. So thank you to those of you who do have your head on straight for correcting me here. 8)
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Originally Posted by etumil
My apologies to everyone, I have been sick lately.
Also, my apologies on the misinformation. I went back and double checked my info, and I managed to get my info wrong. So thank you to those of you who do have your head on straight for correcting me here. 8)
Yeah, I've never made a mistake. ;D
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I got my rifle a week or so ago. Total investment of $290 with a bipod and tax thrown in. on my first outing it only took three rounds to zero in the scope after visually bore sighting it. Shot five more rounds and managed to put three of them in a 1 inch square at 50 yards. One was a flyer, and i knew it from the time it left. The other one hit right on the line of the square. Two of them were touching.
Shot with Federal 150 grain ammo from WalMart. $14.57 a box of 20.
So a good start to owning a fun rifle.
Thanks for all the support.
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Please check out my other thread about the 112 stainless. New info and a chance for me to buy it. Any comments would be appreciated.
David
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Hello everyone. I am also new to the Savage world. I purchased a 110 30-06 at an auction last week with the intention of my sons and me building a LD rifle for under a grand.
The serial number on this is 5 digit no letters and mfgd in Chicopee Falls.
My question is can this older rifle still be customized at a reasonable price?
Thanking you in advance for your patience with a newbee on questions you have probably answered a hundred times.
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Yes, you can do it with no problems as long as you stick to long action cartridges. Gets a lot more complicated if you go for a .308 or similar short action cartridges. Even so, still doable. Some of the best long distance cartridges are short action cartridges. The 6.5x.284 being one example. I assume when you wrote LD you meant Long Distance.
El Lobo
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Thanks El Lobo!
Yes I'm sticking with the 30-06 being new to this we need to make it as easy as possible for the first one. Stock on the way still trying to decide best bang for the buck on barrel choice.
Thanks again for your help.
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To let you know ellobo I am keeping the 06 and going to get the 112 also. It is a beautiful gun that has sentimental value.
I have my grandpa's 03a3 so I was raised on 3006. You are right it has a proven history and is one of the most versatile loads you will ever find.
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I did a 308 on a 30'06 long action with 0 problems. Feeds from magazine great, shoots like crazy.Just need a different trigger.
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Talk to German Salzaar over on accurate shooter. I have shot some mighty tight groups with that old cartridge. It is one of the best cartridges ever developed.
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Johnrg. If cost is a consideration look at MidwayUSA website and check out A&B barrels. I have two and they will shoot sub MOA with good handloads. One of them shot a one MOA first five shots after a short zeroin session with Remington green box cheap ammo. .35 Whelen. I am glad to hear you decided to stick with the old .30-06. There are a large no. of .30-06 rifles out there for good reason, they do the job. Still one of the most popular cartidges sold today.
El Lobo
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ellobo
Can you get pre-fit Savage barrels from MidwayUSA any more? I haven't seen them on there lately.
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Thats where I got my 308 barrel, an ER Shaw kit.
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Cgeorge, I havnt checked lately but I will and get back to you.
El Lobo
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ellobo
Can you get pre-fit Savage barrels from MidwayUSA any more? I haven't seen them on there lately.
cgeorge, I checked the Midway website and found a bunch of E.R. Shaw and Shilen barrels for Savage. Tooks some digging but they are there. Get to the Savage parts page and at the top type in Savage Barrels, then scroll through the parts and you will eventualy see some barrels.
El Lobo
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Originally Posted by etumil
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(yes I do know that the .308 shoots flatter, but you can still get more than enough accuracy to take a deer at 600 without changing parts.
Huh?
I'm with you stangfish.
The OP asked about switching to a .308 I was simply mentioning that with a little practice on the rifle and some good loads, you do not need to switch to a .308
I thought you were saying the 308 shoots flatter than the 30-06.
It does, but unless you are shooting competition with handloads, you probably would not even notice it.
The .30-06 is at minimum 100 fps faster and in most cases 150 fps faster.
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Jamie,
That has long since been resolved.
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Yeah, I need one of those .308's too. Wait, i own one, and it does NOT shoot flatter than my '06...but hey, both great calibers! :D
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Awww give the guy a break, he apologized for it already. ;)
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ellobo
Can you get pre-fit Savage barrels from MidwayUSA any more? I haven't seen them on there lately.
http://www.midwayusa.com/find?&sortb...mensionid=3309
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Originally Posted by ellobo
cgeorge, I checked the Midway website and found a bunch of E.R. Shaw and Shilen barrels for Savage. Tooks some digging but they are there. Get to the Savage parts page and at the top type in Savage Barrels, then scroll through the parts and you will eventualy see some barrels.
El Lobo
I should have said can you get A&B barrels on there for Savage pre-fit. I have a 22-250 varmint A&B barrel that I bought from there and it is a great shooter.
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cgeorge, I checked the Midway website and found a bunch of E.R. Shaw and Shilen barrels for Savage. Tooks some digging but they are there. Get to the Savage parts page and at the top type in Savage Barrels, then scroll through the parts and you will eventualy see some barrels.
El Lobo
I should have said can you get
A&B barrels on there for Savage pre-fit. I have a 22-250 varmint A&B barrel that I bought from there and it is a great shooter.
You can get A&B barrel blanks, but unless I missed everything, you cannot get them pre-fit. You might have at one time, but not now.
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cgeorge, I checked the Midway website and found a bunch of E.R. Shaw and Shilen barrels for Savage. Tooks some digging but they are there. Get to the Savage parts page and at the top type in Savage Barrels, then scroll through the parts and you will eventualy see some barrels.
El Lobo
I should have said can you get
A&B barrels on there for Savage pre-fit. I have a 22-250 varmint A&B barrel that I bought from there and it is a great shooter.
You can get A&B barrel blanks, but unless I missed everything, you cannot get them pre-fit. You might have at one time, but not now.
This is currently the ONLY prefit for savage 10/110 in stock that I could find.
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/390...tainless-steel
