My body is a big hunter and told me I need to break in my gun. But not sure about the way he says to do this. It goes like this.
1 shot clean. Ten times.
Then two shots clean ten times
Then 3 shots clean 15 times
And so on.
Is this true
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My body is a big hunter and told me I need to break in my gun. But not sure about the way he says to do this. It goes like this.
1 shot clean. Ten times.
Then two shots clean ten times
Then 3 shots clean 15 times
And so on.
Is this true
What's the nest way to break in your new barrel
Shoot it. Clean it. Repeat. 10x
Shoot it 2-3X. Clean it. Repeat 10x.
From then on, clean only as often as necessary to retain accuracy. From my experience and as others report, Savage factory barrels typically like some copper fouling. (Smooths-out/fills the tooling marks and imperfections?)
I've also heard the whole idea is over-rated and serves only to shorten barrel life in the sense the barrel has only so many shots in it.
Follow barrel mfr recommendations.
I also find that they tend to settle down and shoot better after 100-250 rounds thru them no matter what you do.
I am no expert, take all of above with a grain of salt.
Nope. Breaking in a barrel is the basis for "endless" debate, but when the smoke clears, there is "zero" proof either way. Now lets sit back and watch the fire works, LOL.
Initial cleaning, shoot it and have fun. Clean again when accuracy falls off.
I have tried both of the above methods, and a few in between. Can't really see a difference that I can attribute to break in one way or the other.
I recently put a new Criterion barrel on a Garand. I had some ambivalence about the break in routine, but I decided there wasn't a reason not to do it. On a week day, I typically have the local range to myself. On the day that I happened to pick, there was a top tear competitor (non break in believer) acquaintance, who is sort of a contrarian by nature. As I was shooting one round, cleaning, repeating, he was giving me a full ration.
:director:
Perhaps it's one thing for a sub MOA target rifle, and completely different (as Monty Python was wont to say) for a "Greatest Battle Implement".
I felt a little better a couple of days later, when I ran into a Smith acquaintance at the cigar bar, who opined that break in is legit, on a micro finish level, predominately in the throat.
As soon as I hit that lotto, I'm going to buy two identical barrels and see if it really makes a difference. :heh:
Shoot it.
Shoot it.
Anyone will tell you that two barrels, even made one right after the other are still "two different barrels, so there is "no" way to prove or disprove anything. Even a crappy barrel can sometimes be made to shoot well, so if you go by performance of the barrel, break in is irrelevant at best anyway. Now what does this have to do with Optic and mounts? LOL.
I have some good luck with firearms and barrels. My method.... clean really good, go to the range and clean when I get home. More than happy to post up results.
I'm fairly quiverin' to see what happens here......lol
what is barrel breakin?
just cause you do it for an engine as mentioned it in the owners manual by taking it easy for the first x miles. does that mean that you have to do the same for a barrel. Heck I broke in my Honda fit by driving it like I stole it.
I am happy to say it is still working.
Back to barrels,
I see ritualistic cleaning after each shot is a staple, I wonder if one should apply the same logic on their honeymoon?
Is the residue from a shot too abrasive that leaving it in will ruin the barrel after a few shots unless it is cleaned?
i've done both and then some and dont see any difference i just shoot it a good bit then see what it will do group wise
Just cant help it I always follow break in procedure a new rifle. Heck I even followed the procedure on an AK. It certainly doesn't hurt. Just my opinion but I believe with a factory barrel it helps.
I never "full" broke in my 93r17 barrel.. I kept losing that tiny .17 jag.. And i can litteraly put bull lets through the same hole at 25 and get single hole groups out to 100... But it's whatever... I just say clean it every 10 rounds or so for the first 200ish and you will be fine
OP started two similar threads in two sections. Merged the one in the optics section into this one.
Not really? .17 is very capable
25-35 yards in the same hole and out to 100 maybe 125 In a ragged hole/ touching one a other
Clean it. Shoot it three times. Clean it. Shoot it three times. Clean it. Shot it five times. Let cool off. Shot five more. All done.!!!
Ok sounds like it more of a matter if you want to spend the time to do it or not. I think I will do it. Will let you all know what comes of it.
Sounds good thanks
I ment to quote a different one oops
I guess you should have adde what gun you are wanting to break in? Some guns dont need it and some guns because the way theyre made wont benifeit in terms of accuracy
You mean, you're supposed to clean the barrel?
Yea.. Savage has a break in procedure on their page
Any barrel, new, Savage factory or aftermarket, it gets installed, a few warm up shots & it's off to the load testing. Maybe, and this is a big maybe,.... Maybe a quick wet swab with a little Hoppe's to pull out some carbon.
Otherwise, they get cleaned whenever the accuracy starts to fall off.
Of course, there's the occasional copper grabber that needs to be de-coppered after every use.
2nd that
3rd that, cleaning is unneccessary until the accuracy falls off, 100 rounds or 1000.
If I dare answer your question that may have been directed specifically to Homefront; Darb, as I remember, the general consensus in this thread was that "break-in" is a waste of barrel life and time.
Having said that, Homefrontsniper's stated routine for break-in will be as good as any other and would apply to any barrel that you wish to apply the logic and regime to.
I have done it many times. Nothing wrong with doing so. I doubt I will subject myself or my new barrels to the routine again in the future, though.
does that answer your question? :)
I break in shoes, ball gloves, bats, women, saddles, and jeans. Barrels.................not so much. I screw it on and shoot. I would hate to have a coyote in my crosshairs and be contemplating whether or not to clean and repeat..........or risk destroying my barrel because I shot 4 times before I cleaned instead of three.
It's your money, do what you like...........but no one has ever shown me any kind of evidence that it does anything except eat up throat life.
I shoot and clean every 50 rounds at first .
Then 3 shot groups and clean maybe 10 times.
Then shot normal.
Just the way I have always done it.
Worked good so far.
...........but no one has ever shown me any kind of evidence that it does anything except eat up throat life.[/QUOTE]
YES! sorry for the late reply, my forum app wasn't working for a while. I have yet to see proof that breaking in a barrel actually does any good, your gun will break itself in and get more accurate after so many shots anyway, so why over clean it when you first get it?
Someone needs to call mythbustes TV SHOW..... they like firearm's :)
Agreed
Just did this with my new Shilen 223 shooting 55gn Bergers and H335.
Shoot / clean X 10
Shoot 3 / clean X 5
Saw a noticeable reduction in carbon fouling through those first 10 rounds. Saw the same thing when I broke in the Savage factory barrel. No noticeable difference in copper fouling but then in the Shilen there was hardly any there.
So in your opinion is there a real reason to "break in" factory barrels?
Don't know I'd call it a "reason", maybe more of an "excuse". Just my personal experience from doing it a grand total of 2 times.
YES! sorry for the late reply, my forum app wasn't working for a while. I have yet to see proof that breaking in a barrel actually does any good, your gun will break itself in and get more accurate after so many shots anyway, so why over clean it when you first get it?[/QUOTE]
Good timing. I just ordered a barrel for my second build. I think I'll skip the procedure this time around, unless someone can explain to me how it is detrimental. Thanks for the reply.