Axis xp2 223 light strikesirs

Hi all....just went for the first time to shoot my new xp2 223 and out of 15 rounds it only shot 6. The rounds that did not fire had a light strike. I did clean the bolt and rifle before shooting....savage only wants me to send in the whole rifle....I soaked the bolt in some Balistrol for a couple of hours.....any other ideas....I am not going to try to take apart the bolt. Savage did provide me with a return label, but I will have to remove my new scope and it will be by them at least 3 weeks.
i was shooting Federal 55gr military grade boxed 223

Scope or no scope, the rifle is junk as it sits.

Have you tried any other ammunition?

I've run PMC bronze and Remington (Freedom Bucket) both in 55gr through my Axis with no problems. If the store you bought it at won't help you, then my advice is to find another store.


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Originally Posted by Tpsfoto

i was shooting Federal 55gr military grade boxed 223

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Federals AR223 ammo is loaded with the harder military type primers as they are intended to be shot in AR-15 rifles.

My Axis would snap on 1 or 2 out of 10, with the AR type ammo and also with reloads using CCI 450 magnum primers which are also hard. No problems since I disassembled the bolt and polished it thoroughly.

I have not had any problems any with civilian type ammo or with reloads with CCI 400 primers.

Michael

I have only shot Fiocchi 50 grain V-Max and 62 grain junk Tulammo in mine...no problems with either.

I will try some other ammo.......hopefully that would work....if not it will go back.
thanks all

I have had trouble during cold weather with gloves on. I believe I am not pulling straight back.

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Originally Posted by Rosco

Have you tried any other ammunition?

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Try a different type of ammo. If you see any issues with rounds not fired or light strikes, run...don't walk, but run...to your shipper of choice to send that rifle back to Savage. Personally, I'd insist they replace it if the retailer won't.

I put my new axis Xp heavy barrel thru a 50rnd break in, I did have 2 out of the 50 hit the primer and not go off, I reloaded one and it did it again.
I'm shooting the federal 55gr brass case in the redish maroon 100rnd box.
ill try a more typical round for a bolt action I was thinking of using the Winchester 64 grain xp hog season bullet?

It was the ammo......PMC bronze and low end Federal worked fine......the 223 military grade had harder primers....so I sold the rounds.
thanks all!

all is well that ends well

I believe I have run the AR223 through my 12FV and nary a problem. I would think they should go boom with a bolt, even if the primers might be a bit heavier.

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Originally Posted by WV1951

I believe I have run the AR223 through my 12FV and nary a problem. I would think they should go boom with a bolt, even if the primers might be a bit heavier.

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Out of 20 rounds only 6 fired......PMC bronze 20 out of 20 fired.....I sold the AR223 rounds
thanks for the reply

I have the same problem with my Axis .223. I have only shot handloads using Remington 7 1/2 primers but one or two out of twenty will fail to fire, the primer is dented but no bang. Sometimes the second strike will fire it. I am in the process of bolt disassembly and cleaning to see if this will help.

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I have the same problem with my Axis .223. I have only shot handloads using Remington 7 1/2 primers but one or two out of twenty will fail to fire, the primer is dented but no bang. Sometimes the second strike will fire it. I am in the process of bolt disassembly and cleaning to see if this will help.

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I soaked mine in Ballistrol overnight, then dried it, it then fired PMC bronze fine, but still wouldn't fire the 223 military grade, even tried to fire a second time with the same brass, and nothing

Took my Axis .223 bolt apart and cleaned it even though it was clean to begin with. I decided to try adding a washer to the firing pin spring to increase spring tension. I machined an existing washer to .396 OD, .220 ID (through hole) and .057 thick. After I installed the washer and put the bolt back in, the bolt wouldn't open. I removed the washer and later on I might try a thinner washer or live with occasional light strikes.

I just machined a washer to the same OD and ID as I stated above but made it .030" thick instead of .057. Everything functions fine and I will take it to the range later in the week to test it out.

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Hi all....just went for the first time to shoot my new xp2 223 and out of 15 rounds it only shot 6. The rounds that did not fire had a light strike. I did clean the bolt and rifle before shooting....savage only wants me to send in the whole rifle....I soaked the bolt in some Balistrol for a couple of hours.....any other ideas....I am not going to try to take apart the bolt. Savage did provide me with a return label, but I will have to remove my new scope and it will be by them at least 3 weeks.
i was shooting Federal 55gr military grade boxed 223

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It's because those rounds have 5.56 military harder primers. When I use military or ticker walled primers, some CCI and some Tulammo primers, the same thing happens. That is your problem, I guarantee it.

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Hi all....just went for the first time to shoot my new xp2 223 and out of 15 rounds it only shot 6. The rounds that did not fire had a light strike. I did clean the bolt and rifle before shooting....savage only wants me to send in the whole rifle....I soaked the bolt in some Balistrol for a couple of hours.....any other ideas....I am not going to try to take apart the bolt. Savage did provide me with a return label, but I will have to remove my new scope and it will be by them at least 3 weeks.
i was shooting Federal 55gr military grade boxed 223

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Fire those same ones out of an AR 15 and they fire just fine.

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Originally Posted by Amistoso

Fire those same ones out of an AR 15 and they fire just fine.

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thanks!.......I did fire PMC bronze and it fired every round.....I sold those military grade to a guy with an AR

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Originally Posted by Magilla26

I have the same problem with my Axis .223. I have only shot handloads using Remington 7 1/2 primers but one or two out of twenty will fail to fire, the primer is dented but no bang. Sometimes the second strike will fire it. I am in the process of bolt disassembly and cleaning to see if this will help.

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Stick with CCI #400 srp

I just bought the last two cartons of CCI #400 at the LGS. Small rifle primers are getting scarce, I had to check three stores before I found any. I went to the range yesterday and 20 out of 20 rounds fired with the Rem 7 1/2's. I would like to think that the .030" shim helped, too early to tell.

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I just bought the last two cartons of CCI #400 at the LGS. Small rifle primers are getting scarce, I had to check three stores before I found any. I went to the range yesterday and 20 out of 20 rounds fired with the Rem 7 1/2's. I would like to think that the .030" shim helped, too early to tell.

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Excellent. Whatever works... I know for my Axis in .223rem, the CCI #400 work great.

I had almost 50% light strike issues with a new savage 30-06. After reading thru multiple forums I decided to take apart the bolt. Here is what I found
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The Savage Axis appears to use a two piece spring separated by what looks like a metal O-ring. When I took the bolt apart I found that the O-Ring was captured by the rear spring--my theory is that as you cycle the bolt, the rotation randomly causes the open end of the spring to capture the O-ring (or equivalently lock into the O-ring). This effectively reduces the spring tension since the overall length of the spring mechanism is shortened.

Given what I heard about delays in getting it fixed, my solution was to take a hardware store washer and grind/polish it down to the appropriate size as a replacement O-ring--keeping the outside edge square. (Note--the the washer is round, just the outside edge is not rounded). That way the spring does not get a chance to climb into the washer. I also made the washer 20% thicker (tried 50% initially but the bolt felt tight).

Since that modification I have not had any light strikes.

Do not fire 5.56 Nato ammo in your Axis. Make sure the ammo is head stamped .223 Remington. The hard primers are not the only problem, there is a headspace/pressure difference with the 5.56 in a .223 chamber that could result in damage to the gun and you. You can fire .223 ammo in a 5.56 gun/chamber safely, but it won't be as accurate as he 5.56.