savage had a good day at our club match

our club had their 300 yard f class match (400 point total) this past Saturday temps in low to mid 90's and humid as heck
FTR

1st 393 15x savage 223 built by me
2nd 389 10x savage 308 built by me
3rd 387 15x savage 308 built by me
4th 380 4x savage 223 built by me

out of 16 shooters

f open
3rd 377 5x savage 6.5 creedmoor built by me (fellow marine brother who came up and hasn't picked up a rifle in 20years) again built by me
7th 347 3x ar15 5.56 built by me (had to throw that one in)

out of 9 shooters

f-un anything under a 50cal brakes and can ok

2nd 386 9x savage 22-250 mod 112 all stock

out of 5 shooters

think we made a good showing

I'd like to hear some of the details on your builds.

not much really
1st 223 model 10 action ,rifle basix sav-2 trigger , shilen 1-8t match barrel 26" long , boyds stock pillared and bedded , 20 moa base with sightron 10x50x60 fine dot scope
2nd 308 model 11 action ,stock trigger Mcqowen 26" match barrel varmint taper, boyds thumb hole stock pillared and bedded , 20 moa base w/ sightron 10x50x60 moa-2 scope
3rd 308 model 12 lrpv 30' shilen select match bull barrel hs precision stock and stock trigger , 20 moa base w/ sightron 10x50x60 moa-2 scope
4th 223 model 12 action cbi 26 " barrel 1-8t w?NSS lug and nut , red blade target trigger swapped in set at 8 oz. boyds thumb hole stock pillared and bedded, 20 moa base w/ vortex crossfire 8x32x50 fine cross hair scope(has never been off)
5th 6.5 creedmoor model 110 28" shilen select match bull barrel w/ NSS lug and nut , rifle basix sav-2 trigger set at 6 oz. custom made stock with 3" forearm weighted front and back and aluminum spacer for LOP ,20 moa base w/ nightforce 12x42x56 scope mildot crosshairs
last stock model 112 22-250 cheap ass tasco (older model 10x40x50 target scope) trigger has the buzz bait mod set at 1.5 lbs (pre accu-trigger)

Impressive. Congrats to the builder and the marksmen.

Amazing results!

Would you mind sharing what you are using for the loads? Brass, primer, bullets and Powder?

I'm asking because I'm shooting a Savage in 223, and have been trying some loads for the past 2 months.

I tried CFE 223, IMR 8208 XBR and now I will try Varget.

I tested the Hornady 68gr HPBT, Nosler 69 HPBT, and Hornady 75 AMAX.

Did not get a consistent good load so far for competitions.

If you could share the loads for 223, I would immensely appreciate!

Thanks,

Rod

1st place shooter lapua brass, cci sm rifle primers , 77gr smk and varget (you will need to work up but this is a lite load with a 300 yard zero she has to come up 92 clicks (1/8" clicks ) for 600 yards.

the other shooter lapua brass , fed 205m primers , 75gr amax and varget (stout load same applies but with that rifle 85 clicks to 600 (1/8" clicks) seated .003 off the land

my other load for my match ar is lc nato brass cci small rifle primers , 69 gr smk and varget ( it will hold 1 1/2" @ 300 if i do my part right ) son shoots this in our open class with good result alot

Thanks a lot!

Can you also share the amount of Powder?

This time I'm testing Varget, with the following loads for the Hornady 68gr BTHP:

23.4 gr of Varget
23.6 gr of Varget
24 gr of Varget
24.2 gr of Varget
24.4 gr of Varget

I will test 10 rounds each at 100 yards. I will post the Results here.

I will also test the Hornady AMax 75gr with 23gr of Varget, and 2.377 of COL

I'm using Fiocchi brass, I will get some Lapua to test.

Some 77gr smk are on the way, I will reload some of those with the Lapua brass.

I know nothing about the kind of competition you are doing, here at my range I only try to get the smallest group at 100 yards. :)

Again, thanks for sharing, and good luck in the next matches.

Regards,
Rod

Forgot to tell the primers! I'm using CCI 450.

Thanks!

sorry i cant say the powder charge since they are stout they are over current book max remember what works in my rifle might be way over in your . i worked these up slowly and found the combo that works great in these each one has a different load because of this .

No Problem! I understand you...

I just can't do anything more than 24.4, without having to change the COL, I'm already hearing the crunching of the Varget when pressing the bullet...

Thanks for all the info, good luck on future matches!

Regards,

Rod

yeah i hear the crunch every time on the 75 gr been shooting that load for 7 years now

So i did the tests with Varget and IMR 8208 XBR, and those are the results, all from 100 yards:

First target has a single load of IMR powder, and all the same 98 gr Hornady Match bullets, with the same gr of Powder:

https://c5.staticflickr.com/8/7723/2...9878b88a_k.jpg

With the Varget, I did not get good results, it may be my loads of powder that could still be wrong... More tests to be done (first two target were IMR loads):

These targets are 2 inches diameter, previous ones are 3 inches.

https://c3.staticflickr.com/8/7550/2...50067c34_k.jpg

I will test a different load of Varget for the 68 gr bullet, but I'm getting a lot of crunch with 24 and the 68 HPBT Hornady Match. I will increase the COL and test this weekend.

Regards,

Rod

whats your barrel twist

It is a heavy barrel 1:9 twist.

Groups are not that great?

Rifle does not have any pillar or bedding.

Sorry for so many questions, I'm new to this sport and I'm learning everything as I go.

Since this is my first rifle, I got it in 223 for the (almost) cheap ammo, and for being easy to shoot.

I'm thinking about doing some pillar and bedding in this rifle, and still learning how to reload.

Thanks for all your help,

Rod

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Originally Posted by lal357

whats your barrel twist

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Yes, Do you have a picture of your rifle? What scope? If it has parallax adjustment do you know how to tune it to range? How are you measuring your powder?

This is the rifle, but now I have low rings on it:

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1616/...176ba038_k.jpg

I'm afraid I do not know how to set it up for the range...

The scope is a Vortex Viper HS-T 6-24x 50mm

Thanks

I'm using the Gem Pro 250 to measure the powder:

http://www.brownells.com/reloading/p...71-124361.aspx

Point the scope into the blue sky. Adjust the rear focus until the reticle is crisp and sharp. Then point the rifle at the target. You will not need to mess with the rear focus again. Using the left side parallax adjustment, turn it until the target lines are sharp. You need to do this next part with no part of your body touching the table or rifle until you get accustomed to what you are looking for. Looking through the scope move your head around, left to right up down etc..., the reticle and the point of aim should stay locked in. If you see the crosshairs move around on the target even 1/8th inch it will cause you to be off that much every time potentially.

Are you double checking your charge weights?

I double check some of the loads, not all of then. Did not find any differences.