An Affordable Accustock Replacement Choate Tactical Custom Package

I finally found a stock that might work with my Model 10 FCP-K

It’s the Choate Tactical Stock, it comes with an adjustable cheek piece and butt plate

http://www.riflestock.com/images/Pro...ece3%20Way.jpg

It looks like a good stock for $450

I called Choate yesterday and they told me they will be testing it on a Savage Short Action with an Accustock and DBM today.

Hopefully it will fit.

Does Choate make a good stock?

WOW $450 IS A LOT OF CASH FOR A STOCK!!!!
Not exactly what I would call affordable.
The accu-stock guns have a complete different bolt release, and use a different size recoil lug. I doubt the Choate stock is properly inletted for the accu-stock, The picture you have posted only shows the rear of the stock.
For a bit over $300 SSS can make you a stock, that is properly inletted, and you can have an adjustable cheek riser, and but plate. If you must have a tactical look just paint it black.

I guess you don't price stocks that much.

The BC, Manners and McMillian stocks are all $700+ when you add all the features this stock has and none of these stocks have been checked to see if they will fit an Accustock with a DBM


The closest stock is the Prairie Dog Special/Tactical for about $550, but you have to pay $200 for him to inlet it or you can get his bottom metal for $200 installed.

I looked at SSS but didn't see any synthetc adjustable A-5 style stocks for $300.

If the Choate is a direct replacement stock, $450 is a good price for a synthetic stock with integrated aluminum frame and all the options it has.

My only question was if Choate makes good stocks

yes choate makes good stocks. I have the UV stock and its a good stock.

I have two Choate stocks. One is the UV and one is a US. Both are well made and are direct drop-ins. My only complaint is that the Ultimate Sniper is just a little too heavy. I should have bought another UV.

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I was just informed today by Fred at Choate that their Tactical Stock will fit an accustock gun with a DBM

I'm going to order my Custom Tactical ASAP

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Originally Posted by 82boy

WOW $450 IS A LOT OF CASH FOR A STOCK!!!!
Not exactly what I would call affordable.
The accu-stock guns have a complete different bolt release, and use a different size recoil lug. I doubt the Choate stock is properly inletted for the accu-stock, The picture you have posted only shows the rear of the stock.
For a bit over $300 SSS can make you a stock, that is properly inletted, and you can have an adjustable cheek riser, and but plate. If you must have a tactical look just paint it black.

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I agree that stock prices can get crazy quickly, bu the Manners and McMillan stocks are worth the cost, if the rifle deserves it. The weight of laminated stocks is the biggest drawback for many people, but they still want a strong, very balanced design. As anything in life, that last bit of perfection is never cheap vs the very good. The stock is just as important as any other aspect of a quality rifle.

82BOY,,,,that was the problem, i had too,the bolt realease was different and binding up,i got a lil dremel action,but now it looks like its going to take some work,,sad,because i really liked the new choate stock,,i guess savage keeps changing stuff like that,i like my savages they shoot good,but the aftermarket guys hate some of there changes sometimes.

I think that's a bit pricy for the stock, if it included the barreld action it might be a deal.
These stocks when they first came out were about $150.00, I just checked and now they run $200.00 [url]http://www.combatstocks.com/Choate_TACTICAL_Stock_for_Savage_Short_Action_Deta chable_Mag_Centerfeed_Only.cfm/url]
But they are not in-letted for the accustock action, I guess that must be worth the extra $250.00 they are charging.
Curt

yeah there checking because i got one of those new savages like you said and it dont fit...im sad

The extra $250 is for the adjustable cheek rest and the 3 way adjustable butt plate


But I think it funny that you think this stock with a barreled action is only worth $450.

My gun cost $719. If I could get the Model 10 FCP barreld action in this stock for $450 I buy 50 of them and make a small fortune.

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Originally Posted by Netz

I think that's a bit pricy for the stock, if it included the barreld action it might be a deal.
These stocks when they first came out were about $150.00, I just checked and now they run $200.00 [url]http://www.combatstocks.com/Choate_TACTICAL_Stock_for_Savage_Short_Action_Deta chable_Mag_Centerfeed_Only.cfm/url]
But they are not in-letted for the accustock action, I guess that must be worth the extra $250.00 they are charging.
Curt

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Why doesn't it fit?

Here is a copy of the email I got from Fred:

The stock will fit the Savage with the bolt release on the bottom of the action. The trigger guard is a little tight on some of the rifles. We got a new rifle today and it worked.
Thanks
Fred

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Originally Posted by cowboy25actual

yeah there checking because i got one of those new savages like you said and it dont fit...im sad

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I think I would just shoot it as is till more after-market company's start producing stocks for the accustock actions, then the prices will hopefully start to go down.
No to diminish the quality of the Choate Stock, but I personally would not pay that much for one even with the adjustable butt and cheek piece.
I guess my comment about the barrelled action didn't include the 10fcp-k, just any savage action would be nice, I sure do like that 10fcp-k though.
I bought one after-market stock for my 7mm mag,just for the wow factor, it was a HS Precision M-24 stock with detachable mag ($435), it looks cool , but the adjustable butt is really worthless once its adjusted, I really haven't had much need to do any other adjusting to it, no matter what awkward shooting position I've been in.
Curt

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Originally Posted by Netz

I bought one after-market stock for my 7mm mag,just for the wow factor, it was a HS Precision M-24 stock with detachable mag ($435), it looks cool , but the adjustable butt is really worthless once its adjusted, I really haven't had much need to do any other adjusting to it, no matter what awkward shooting position I've been in.
Curt

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Curt, isn't that the whole reason for getting an adjustable butt plate? To set it up to fit you "personally" and then there would be no reason to ever adjust it again, once you get it to fit you like a glove. It is hard to adjust a non-adjustable butt plate to fit you exactly as they do not move. No offesnse, I just got a chuckle from your post :)

I think allot of people get them so they can adjust them for different shooting positions. The only use I've found in mine is when I wear a heavy jacket.
Choats original design was to add spacers to the stock, making it a fixed set-up as you mentioned.

Curt

Whoa! I got a Chote Tactical stock for my Stevens 200 .308 At www.combatstocks.com for 169 and tax. They are now 199.00. Got it in one week. Great people to deal with. It is for a DBM, and that will come from SSS supply. for 78.00. Really tightened up my groups! It's built like a tank at 3.9 lbs and will take a bull barrel. The Stevens dropped right in. Very pleased.

Well I ordered mine today after I confirmed that it would work. Fred said they will shave .010" off the sides before they send it out.

I stand by my original opinion that you can not find an A-5 style stock with the bottom hook, adjustable cheek piece, 3-way adjustable butt stock plate and the bipod channel anywhere else for $450.


I also ordered my EGW scope base today and plan to order the scope, 9 round magazine and bipod in the next couple days.

I should be listing my Accustock and 4 round DBM in the classifieds section once I do the change over. I still need to figure out what they are worth. I think I'll ask $100 for the stock and $40 for the magazine.

Does that sound reasonable?

http://www.combatstocks.com/Choate_U...ort_Action.cfm

http://www.combatstocks.com/images/F...ock_Savage.jpg

they make a folding varmit as well, its longer, but not on the site, call choate direct for it..

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Originally Posted by Boba Debt

Well I ordered mine today after I confirmed that it would work. Fred said they will shave .010" off the sides before they send it out.

I stand by my original opinion that you can not find an A-5 style stock with the bottom hook, adjustable cheek piece, 3-way adjustable butt stock plate and the bipod channel anywhere else for $450.


I also ordered my EGW scope base today and plan to order the scope, 9 round magazine and bipod in the next couple days.

I should be listing my Accustock and 4 round DBM in the classifieds section once I do the change over. I still need to figure out what they are worth. I think I'll ask $100 for the stock and $40 for the magazine.

Does that sound reasonable?

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The adjustable cheek piece hardware is around $100.00 and then the cost of installation. The adjustable butt pad is about the same cost if not a little more I would think. $450.00 is not out of line for the additional hardware in my opinion. Some people don't want it and/or don't
want to pay for it. It is all about what you want from your rifle. I don't see any problem with the price if the stock is solid. Price a Manners or McMillan with those same features and see what the final cost would be. I would imagine you be looking in the neighborhood of $800.00.

I think you misunderstood.

I was asking is $100 for my Accustock and and $40 for my original 4 round magazine was reasonable?

Still waiting on my stock, I guess they have to make it?????

I'm a patient guy but I have to admit I'm a bit anxious to get this stock.


What would be considered a "long" time to wait for a stock?

I've been waiting on a custom laminate since the end of Dec., it is for a 110fple 7mm mag.

I ordered one from Kevin at Stockade in early december, hopefully will come this april...

I received my Choate Custom Tactical stock today.

It took about 3 minutes to install and everything fit perfectly.

I'll post pictures after I get a bipod for it this week end.

Here are the images of my Model 10 FCP-K with the new Choate Custom Tactical Stock and Harris Bipod installed. I have two 9 round magazines on order.

I can't wait to shot this thing


[img width=600 height=391]http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p298/BobaDebt/Props/Savage/ChoateFront02.jpg[/img]

[img width=600 height=188]http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p298/BobaDebt/Props/Savage/ChoateLeft.jpg[/img]

[img width=600 height=209]http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p298/BobaDebt/Props/Savage/ChoateRight.jpg[/img]

[img width=600 height=353]http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p298/BobaDebt/Props/Savage/ChoateBottom.jpg[/img]

[img width=600 height=354]http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p298/BobaDebt/Props/Savage/ChoateAdjustable.jpg[/img]

Any updates? Have you gotten a chance to shoot this thing yet?

No, I'm waiting on my 9 round mags

Okay... forgive me for saying, but *not* taking the gun to the range for a test drive because you don't have high enough capacity mags (on a bolt gun) seems a tad silly... granted I have two shooting ranges within 15 minutes drive from my house, so my perspective may be different.

I'm a patient guy.

I want the first time I shoot this gun to be in it's final configuration.

So how about now?
Have you shot it yet?
Did you ever shoot it with the standard accustock?
What about the recoil lug jamming bolt? Is there a hole in the stock for it? Thinking about getting one to tide me over while I wait for an sss LVT...
And what model choate is it exactly? The short action stagger feed?

WARNING!!! It does not fit the new accustock! I got the same email from Choate! I sent the stock back to get new alluminum pillars to fit but they did not address that the recess for the recoil lug or barrel lug is to deep, wide and long. So it still did not fit and the lug was floating, which in the accustock it is wedged in. This is just this month so I'm not sure if they've fixed it yet. If you've already ordered then you have some work to do. Get yourself some defcon and really good release agent. (shoe polish) Fill that recessed area with defcon and be sure to leave room for overflow when you set the stock in. When it dries it will be as if the accustock wedge is in there, and WALA accuracy is back and no more butt ugly stock. Also make sure to set the action in the stock with the bolt in and the bolt release closed, then open the bolt release and put the action screw in or the screw will get stuck and all sorts of trigger problems. After all the headache I went through all it needed was that barrel lug to be bedded. Good luck!

Thanks for the info. I was thinking of making the wedge work in it somehow. If not, I have some structural epoxy...
Still would like to see if th OP has shot his yet. The last thing I want to do is lose accuracy. The accustock concept is awesome and my rifle is more accurate than me, but the ergonomics of the stock suck, especially for prone shooting.

No worries! I want to know too how his shoots! I've taken both stocks to the range and with my skill level I cannot make one shoot better than the other. I'm using Hornady 168gr. Moly coated, and grouping 5 shots 1.25" is biggest and .75 smallest at 200yards. That's best I can do. On a bench the accustock isn't bad, I just can't get comfortable with it specially the cheeck weld. The choate is bad ass though! It's been turning heads at the range like Jessica Simpson in a bathing suit. Lol

I had their non-custom version on my FCP. It fit me well. The adjustable comb and LOP should only make it fit better. It'll be here tomorrow.

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Originally Posted by fastgixxerlv

WARNING!!! It does not fit the new accustock!

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If it doesn’t fit the new accustock then how is it that it took me less then 5 minutes to put the new stock on my gun?


NO, I have not shot it yet. I still don’t have my 9 round mags and I have been working lot of OT. Once I get my mags I'll find time to get to the range.

You're way too patient!
Like you, I could have had mine mounted in 5 minutes, but I chose to make use of the 3D bedding system of the Accustock. I ended up drilling a 3rd hole in the stock for the wedge bold and making a wedge ramp out of epoxy for the recoil lug nut. Seems to have worked out fairly well, but I will know more tomorrow when I SHOOT IT ;D I don't need the aftermarket magazine to do that...

I don't need the mags to shoot my rifle, I just want them.

I have plenty of other guns to shoot in the woods if I have the time.


I just finished this build last week and I have shoot it a few times

[img width=600 height=202]http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p298/BobaDebt/Props/SXS/SXSProgress008.jpg[/img]

I don't doubt you fitted it in 5. I did too! I shot mine though and it shot like crap, so I fixed it. I've been waiting 3 months for fluted bolt body and mags from SSS, and still don't have it. I ordered them in April!

Here are some rough pics of how I made use of the Accuwedge in the choate stock. This is a conceptual idea that will be put to the test later this afternoon, but I don't see how it could hurt anything. I used a 3/16 allen to wedge for the pic:
[img width=600 height=450]http://i813.photobucket.com/albums/zz53/bodywerks/accuwedge/PIC_0015.jpg[/img]
and here's the bottom view - just a 3/16" hole, countersunk with a forstener bit:
[img width=600 height=450]http://i813.photobucket.com/albums/zz53/bodywerks/accuwedge/PIC_0019.jpg[/img]
I had to go with a longer 10-24 screw(3/4") due to the thicker fore end.

That should work above. I did the same thing but did not drill the hole or use the wedge. I used a piece of alluminum I had cut out. I then dumped the epoxy in there for a snug fit. You're gonna be amazed!

I'm thinking of doing away with the wedge entirely - too finicky. Haven't delved too much into it with this Choate stock, but I took my standard accustock rifle out today that I just bolted the action back into, and tightened according to the instructions. I shot a nearly 2" group at 50 yards!!! Rechecked torques and found that the screws were all looser than I had previously set them to. I re-torqued the wedge, torqued both action bolts to 55in/lbs, and loosened the wedge and shot a 5/8" group at 100 yards. Thought I was all set so I went out to 500 yards and was all over the place - I can usually shoot 1-1.5MOA consistent. Rechecked the screws and the front action screw was loose. Retorqued, fired, rechecked, and the front one was loose again! Bottom line, it's time to do a skim bedding!

I recieved my mags but I have been working too much to get to the range :(

I put my .223 fcp-k in this choate stock. Did a light skim bedding and did away with the accuwedge. The rifle is shooting very consistent. Shooting 1/2 MOA @ 200yards...I'll take it!
http://m813.photobucket.com/albumvie...xLWiZ6gxMr0%3D