Action screw alignment to action

I have a Richards micro fit stock that I am attempting to finish, pillar bed and make everything align correctly in the process. Much more difficult then I anticipated. Anyway it seems like my action is turned counter clockwise as I look down the barrel when everything is tightened up. As I bring it to my shoulder I can see the scope bases are pointed at ~1130. I thought maybe my pillars weren't perpendicular to the centerline but then I noticed that both action screws are canted at the same degree.

I threw it back on the old stock and same thing. It lines up with the dust lines on the old stock so it is in the same position its always been in. What do you guys think?

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Looks crooked! If scopes bases are not off center then the issue would have to lie with the action screws. How long have you had this action? Did you notice the action turned in your old stock, or were the screws holes offset to compensate?

Holy moly'! Not sure but it looks like the anti-rotation/alignment slot for the recoil lug is off as well.

That's the Savage "West Virginia" model. It was designed to be shot while standing on the side of a hill.

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Originally Posted by thomae

That's the Savage "West Virginia" model. It was designed to be shot while standing on the side of a hill.

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that explains it! i knew there had to be some purpose for the angle.

I've had it for 10 years or more. It looks to be the same problem in the old stock. It's never shot worth a darn, which is the reason for the upgrades.

Is the alignment notch on the action side of the lug? It's in its slot on the action. Maybe just an optical allusion from the screws.

So this isn't right. They need to be in line with the center. So I'll retap. Any problems if I have to go up a screw size?

I'm curious to see how this works out for you. I have a Stevens 25-06 which has the same problem. I didn't notice until I tried to put it into a new stock. I've never been happy with it, but I don't want to sell it to somebody else if I know it has a problem. Good luck!

Andrew

An absolute travesty that this action made it through ANY credible QC process.

I've had 2 savage rifles now just like this. One of them I leveled up in the drill press and was able to run the 1/4x28 tap in and straighten it out. It did leave some slop in the threads, but I haven't had any problems out of it yet. The other one I drilled and tapped to 5/16x24, but this was a bit of a PITA because the screw head on the rear screw had to be ground down and the pillars were a pain.

Ive always wondered if these inserts would work.
http://images1.mcmaster.com/Contents...g?ver=33479713 http://images1.mcmaster.com/Contents...g?ver=33479174

It would need to be drilled for a 3/8-16(5/16ths), might look crazy but it would be effective. You could grind it flush or leave it long. I would use a threadlocker on the od threads as well.

http://www.mcmaster.com/#standard-th...nserts/=jfavw0

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Originally Posted by stangfish

Ive always wondered if these inserts would work.
http://images1.mcmaster.com/Contents...g?ver=33479713 http://images1.mcmaster.com/Contents...g?ver=33479174

It would need to be drilled for a 3/8-16(5/16ths), might look crazy but it would be effective. You could grind it flush or leave it long. I would use a threadlocker on the od threads as well.


http://www.mcmaster.com/#standard-th...nserts/=jfavw0

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i used to use something very similar to this item on engines, they were called "helicoils". you would drill hole out to larger size, thread it and insert appropriate size coil for the bolt or screw you wanted to use. they worked excellent! never had any problems with them.

I think the problem you would run into with the inserts or helicoils is that the receiver is too thin and you won't have enough threads holding it in.

Send it back

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I'm curious to see how this works out for you. I have a Stevens 25-06 which has the same problem. I didn't notice until I tried to put it into a new stock. I've never been happy with it, but I don't want to sell it to somebody else if I know it has a problem. Good luck!

Andrew

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I had the guys in the machine shop at my work straighten everything out. Little work with a tap and die and I'm good to go.

I would say send it to savage. No matter how long you had it that action should have never left the factory. I had a problem with a mossberg 410 shotgun that the front bead was not centered. It never matter to me because I dont use the bead to shoot, I mount, swing, have my 2 eyes open and magic used to happen... Before I moved to NC I started selling some of my guns. The person interested on the gun wanted to nickel dime me unless I had that fixed. I called mossberg and they did not even care how old the gun was they would fix it. I would expect no less from Savage.

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Originally Posted by Nandy

I would say send it to savage. No matter how long you had it that action should have never left the factory. I had a problem with a mossberg 410 shotgun that the front bead was not centered. It never matter to me because I dont use the bead to shoot, I mount, swing, have my 2 eyes open and magic used to happen... Before I moved to NC I started selling some of my guns. The person interested on the gun wanted to nickel dime me unless I had that fixed. I called mossberg and they did not even care how old the gun was they would fix it. I would expect no less from Savage.

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That's because Mossberg has been family owned since it's inception. Savage on the other hand has changed hands probably 8-10 times in it's lifetime - the last being in 1996, and the current owners are not liable or responsible for any product made before they took over ownership of the company - and for liability reasons they will not work on anything made prior to when they took over.