Bedding an action with gorilla glue epoxy. DONT DO IT

So I usually use a bedding kit or JB Weld no problems I have done several
with the J B weld I use car wax for release agent
well Home Depot was out of J B Weld so I bought gorilla glue two part epoxy
put car wax all over the metal
mixed epoxy bedded action waited the 10 minute set up time pulled it apart
oh wait just kidding could not pull it apparat tried and tried
made a punch out of a wood dowel no good used a brass punch no good
finally I decided that I would split the stock off ( wood stock ) so I got a wedge and proceeded to drive the wedge between the barrel and stock all of a sudden pop it popped apart now the real problem the epoxy remained on the metal and did not stick to would
took hours to clean up action now I need to get it blued

Yikes! Time to look for some new parts.

I am glad you mentioned this. I always use J&B and never have issues. I have thought about the Gorilla products, but I don't think I will use any now
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Their glue products seem to work well, I know a few guys who laminated their own stock blanks with it and its held up very well.
For the handful of guns ive bedded I just bought one of the brand name kits with a color I like or one I can add the color to.

That is a terrible situation. Crazy that it stuck to the metal with the wax on it. I would say it is probably pretty strong epoxy, just not good for bedding stocks? Were you able to salvage the stock?

Some epoxies create a fair amount of heat and can melt wax or clear shoe polish. It may have worked well if you used a different release agent. Personally I use a thinner epoxy like the Gorilla 2 part, or Devcon or a Marine epoxy for the pillars. Than I use JB weld to "bed" the action and bottom metal.

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Originally Posted by markopolo50

That is a terrible situation. Crazy that it stuck to the metal with the wax on it. I would say it is probably pretty strong epoxy, just not good for bedding stocks? Were you able to salvage the stock?

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Yes I got away with a few minor scratches just in the Polly

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Originally Posted by Frontier Gear

Some epoxies create a fair amount of heat and can melt wax or clear shoe polish. It may have worked well if you used a different release agent. Personally I use a thinner epoxy like the Gorilla 2 part, or Devcon or a Marine epoxy for the pillars. Than I use JB weld to "bed" the action and bottom metal.

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Yea it would work great that way

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Originally Posted by dye7barrel

Yikes! Time to look for some new parts.

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Nope I did get lucky nothing broke
just need to re blue bottom half of receiver and I was able to buff out the few small scratches in stock

Haven't played with the Gorilla epoxies. But as a rule the longer setting (24 hour cure) epoxies set up harder and are better for bedding.

I use a Dremel burr to stuff up the stock prior and get to raw wood instead of the stock finish. For synthetic stocks rough them up as well with 60 grit sandpaper and wipe with solvent alcohol or acetone before bedding. No coincidence glues come in plastic bottles and many epoxies will peel right off some plastics even when cured.

Also, after you first squeeze the action into the stock use strips of sliced credit cards (I keep all those Junk mail cards the mailman brings) to remove as much excess as possible. And don't forget to fill the holes and gaps in the action with clay or Play-Doh first.

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Originally Posted by Stumpkiller

Haven't played with the Gorilla epoxies. But as a rule the longer setting (24 hour cure) epoxies set up harder and are better for bedding.

I use a Dremel burr to stuff up the stock prior and get to raw wood instead of the stock finish. For synthetic stocks rough them up as well with 60 grit sandpaper and wipe with solvent alcohol or acetone before bedding. No coincidence glues come in plastic bottles and many epoxies will peel right off some plastics even when cured.

Also, after you first squeeze the action into the stock use strips of sliced credit cards (I keep all those Junk mail cards the mailman brings) to remove as much excess as possible. And don't forget to fill the holes and gaps in the action with clay or Play-Doh first.

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Yea I always used JB Weld no prob but I ordered a bedding kit for this one
I have bedded a bunc never had a problem till now
I like the credit card idea

I hope you did not bend anything with the wedge.

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Originally Posted by Robinhood

I hope you did not bend anything with the wedge.

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I thought about that but it was all the way out on forearm and it popped pretty quick and clean
every thing looks ok and the bolt runs true

Update touched up the bluing
re- Bedded with a bedding kit and all is well I can now finish my build

Sort of on topic - I have a brand new tube of Gorilla brand super glue and so far it has not worked on anything I have tried. It stays sticky forever, never curing. The opposite of your experience with too much adhesion...

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Originally Posted by geezerhood

Sort of on topic - I have a brand new tube of Gorilla brand super glue and so far it has not worked on anything I have tried. It stays sticky forever, never curing. The opposite of your experience with too much adhesion...

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Lol

Thanks for the warning

Did you try heating up the metal some, to soften the grip? That frequently works.

Sometimes a trip to the freezer will free them up.