thanks, found my next project for my new axis 223.
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thanks, found my next project for my new axis 223.
You need some sort of lubrication for drilling holes in stainless steels.Quote:
Originally Posted by rick3
Thread cutting oil, band saw water soluble, heck even motor oil. Something to lubricate the cutting edge of the drill bit, plus to help wick away the heat generated.
You can do it with a hand drill, just be ready for when you punch thru, the bit will catch and spin the drill. Ease up on the downward pressure as the bit starts to open the bottom hole. With practice you can hear, and feel it on the drill and the press.
OP would you mind putting the pics up using something other than photobucket?
not really active here anymore, and sorry dont have the photo's on my PC anymore nore the rifle.
One more question if ya don't mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by nathantc
After doing this mod was there any issues feeding, etc with the mag? I'm considering doing this but don't want to get into a mess.
getting the two mag bodies matted is the ez part. getting a follower modded to working in both mag bodies, and then feed at the right angle was a bit tricky. if you have a basic understanding of how the rifle functions and mechanical ability you should be fine.
now that said i never had one feed issue out of that set up. my dad now has that mag i made. when i sold my rifle i sold it with his stock mag. he also has never had any issue at all. i have a youtube video of it feeding all 15 rounds flawlessly after it was made https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TR97bvqCqM
https://i.imgur.com/XMuYieS.jpg
After finding this thread months ago, I finally got the mags needed to try it. It took a while, but I used a new Savage 55230 mag and a ten round m3 Pmag to make mine. I cut the feed lips off of the Pmag at the mold line and it fit nicely against the step in the Savage mag. Drilled holes through the rectangles into the pmag and found finishing nails to fit with a little friction. Cut the nails to guessed length and ground down the heads flush with the metal body. Trimming the follower was pretty simple and no spring cutting needed. My biggest challenge was getting the hollowed out floor plate back on the Savage body. I ended up grinding half of the tabs in the old floor plate and easing it into place. The rear of the Pmag follower hit the Savage spacer and needed to be filed to feed past 5. Cycled all 15 twice, but haven't fired with it yet.
It's solid, but I doubt it will hold up to many drops. The next one I make will be all metal and welded.
I also wanted to thank you for sharing this idea. It was a fun project.
glad i could help someone else out, i also enjoy building things. hope you enjoy it as i'm sure you will.
I've been looking for someone that did this with a 10 round magazine! I live in a state where that's all you can buy, in fact I've never even held an AR so my knowledge of 5.56 mags is limited however having a 4 round mag sucks ass even in a bolt rifle. All the AR style magazines have what appears to be a catch hole and a risen stop point right below that. what did you do about the open hole and the risen stopper sticking out? are they hidden under the steel part of the savage magazine? Also may I see what your trimmed follower looks like please?
Also I like the idea of welding a steel one but that seems like a whole new set of challenges such as:
-Will a steel mag fit inside the savage mag like the polymer ones do?
-If the steel mag won't fit inside and you need to weld the 2 together flush, will the follower work between the 2 mag bodies?
I like the simplicity of pushing the polymer mags all the way through to the feed lip but if anyone that has access to lots of mags wanted to use a micrometer and mic a few brands out to see if the steel ones will fit inside the savage models it would be greatly appreciated, Steel models that look most promising are:
-C Products Defense 10-round .223
-ProMag Rug09 10 round .223
-Colt CPD 10 round .223
That hole and bump is the mag catch point. I didn't have to do anything with the Pmag and I assume the metal mag would be no different. https://i.imgur.com/PNGk7uP.jpg
Here's the follower. I pushed it up until it hit something in the Savage body, lightly grinded until it fit and tested fitment. I think a total of eight areas needed to be touched to get it to fit where the Savage mag becomes single feed. Honestly the easiest part of the whole build.
https://i.imgur.com/bWAduzn.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/VGzfIRa.jpg
I bought two C Products Defense ten rounders to originally try this forced marriage of mags, but it was not fitting inside the Savage stepped area without serious grinding through the front corners of the AR mag. I will revisit it with a Ruger Mini 14 mag, but I cannot find one in stainless yet. The weld is going to be difficult enough, I'd rather not add dissimilar metals to the mess as well.
Thank you very much for sharing :)
You're welcome. Good luck with your build.
Might as well throw my own magazine into the mix. Took a cheap ebay Axis mag and merged it with a cheap 30rd Magpul. Ended up with something that holds 14 rounds or so. To me the hardest part was shaping the follower to make the action smooth enough. I used small nails through the mag slots into holes drilled into the Magpul. After fitting the Axis baseplate on I filled everything in with JB Weld. It honestly feels strong as hell.
I wish someone would make this as a commercial product. You end up spending $50 on all the parts to produce it and many hours of fitting...but it's worth it.
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Somebody does. Check Snyder Magazines. Be prepared tho, $90 for 10rd and $95 for 15, but you get a guaranteed to work mag and somebody to call if it doesn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by celltech
https://photos.app.goo.gl/cjLN9TGXSfxnZFDc6https://imgur.com/QDdJqb4https://imgur.com/QDdJqb4
Well since this ancient thread has popped up again I mite as well add mine in here too, however mine is only a 10 round as that's all you can have here by law. I used small sheet metal screws that I happen to have since they seemed simpler and more secure than pins. When I finished I filled in any gaps between the pmag and the cut out floor plate from the old mag with jb weld plastic bonder(not plastic weld), the result was a very ridged magazine that i feel I would have to work at to damage. I had a slight problem with the pmag spring binding on the top of the cut of pmag inside of the original axis mag when loading the magazine. My solution for this was to just sand off the 90 degree edge of the pmag cut with some sandpaper and my dremel, loads reliably now.
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https://imgur.com/QDdJqb4
How much will cost me for you t make me one am disabled and can’t do a lot with my hands? Thanks mike