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anyone seen these? havent seen anyone post about them yet. they dont look like a bad deal for $109
they must have just put these on their website, i know they used to just sell them for the rimfires....
dont know how "cool" theyd be but i bet theyd be a decent stock to get someone by.
http://www.boydsgunstocks.com/produc...19051&cat=1215
they have them listed for staggered, centerfeed, short and long action
I was wondering if they were ever going to add these. I hope they are made out of a different type of laminate than the 22 rimfire versions. The rimfire ones have a very soft wood. The one on my 10-22 flexes really bad. The one on my Savage rimfire not as bad, but it does.
I just now got off the phone with a customer service rep from Boyds: They are packing up to go to the Shot Show, so nothing much will happen until after they get back from Las Vegas.
Right now they are not making the Tacticool in the long action with a bull barrel channel, only the factory barrel channel.
Short action stocks, however, can be had with the bull barrel channel.
The Tacticool stocks also do not have the reinforcing pins that most of the other Boyds' Laminate stocks have.
I mentioned Savage Shooters forum and the customer service rep got excited and said that they really like us there.
Yes, I agree about the type of wood they use for the Tacticool stock. I have one for my Remington 597 and is sufficient for my .22lr needs. From what I can tell from their website, the Tacticool stocks are made from hardwood and not are not a laminate. If they used a laminate, I would add some pillars, bed the action and call it a day. For $100 it is not a bad deal, but for a .308 caliber I would prefer at least a laminate for the added strength and support, especially when using a bipod or bags.
I looked at this stock at the shot show and talked to a guy working their booth; he told me that it is a laminate stock. I didn't spend a long time looking at it, but it looked like it was a nice stock for the money. For me though I'de rather spend the extra money and get a HS or Bell and Carlson with a full aluminum bedding block. If you are someone who wants a good tactical rifle and dont care if it will shoot one hole and dont want to spend $1000 building a rifle, this stock will fit your needs perfectly.
The barrel channel can be opened up with a barrel channel tool from gunline tools in about an hour.
http://www.gunline.com/inletting.html
I always opened up barrel channels with deep sockets wrapped in sandpaper.
But having the correct tool would be great! Lol
I have one coming on the big brown truck as we speak. Using it for a s/a 308 build..... I will post some pics and details when it gets here.
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Hey Joe.. instead of using just a socket try using an impact socket with a locking pin type extension:becky:Quote:
Originally Posted by joe h
I do as well. It will be here on Wednesday :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by PDADDY4
Kevin
Looking forward to an update. I'm in the middle of a build and I have an XLR Chassis on order (week 2 of 8). I thought I was going to have to wait another 10 or so weeks for a CBI barrel, but Jim said he'd have some in this week in the caliber I ordered (26" Varmint profile 260 Match).
I'm thinking about ordering this so I can get the action in a stock so I can start load development. I also want to get some time behind the scope for this build (Vortex Viper PST 6-24x50 MIL/MIL FFP). I can always keep the stock around for another build in the future. This is not my first Savage build and in all likelihood, will not be my last so I'll get use out of the stock at some point.
Your harmonics are gonna change with the XLR stock, and will necessitate new load development. I'll post pics tomorrow when and if I get my stock.
Kevin
Why would harmonics change on a free floated a barrel?
It has to do with the fact that in the Boyds you're setting the action in wood, and the XLR is aluminum. Different harmonics. I'll barrel up an action tomorrow and take a pic for you guys.
Kevin
Has anyone fit their stocks yet? Need some feedback before I commit to one.
I bought one for my 11 Hog Hunter in .223. The magazine fits REALLY tight in the stock, and I seated it too deep at first. Because of this the cartridges wouldn't feed correctly, so I had to pull it up just a tad and everything fed perfectly afterwards. The other problem I had with it was that the trigger guard was thicker on one end and wouldn't fit flush to the bottom of the stock. It was also just a tiny bit too tight on the sides. I used a thin chisel to dig out a little material in the front end of the inletting to deepen it, and then widened the sides and the trigger guard fell right in. The whole operation took less than 5 minutes. I'm pretty sure the tang should free-float. If so, I'll have to remove some material at that point as mine is sitting flush against the stock.
I really like the stock, though. The textured paint is just the right texture and seems to be thick enough that it won't easily scratch off. You can certainly smell that it's made of wood, the aroma of wood and paint is unmistakable but hopefully that'll burn off after a while. The recoil pad on the butt end is hard rubber and is glued on. It rubbed my shoulder raw today so I'll be cutting it off and moving the softer one from the original Savage stock over to the new stock. If the stock has a weak point, the pad is it. Seems they just phoned in the pad, it's utter crap IMO. It IS glued on very well though, so there's that.
The stock easily doubled the weight of my Hog Hunter, but it balances much better due to this. The shape is comfortable and felt great while shooting (other than the recoil pad). I attached a bipod to the sling button and it held even after super tightening the screw. The stock is plenty stiff and strong enough to ride a bipod, and my groups improved drastically over the crappy factory stock even without bedding it. It's not as nice as my Choate Tactical stock of roughly the same shape that I have on my 308, but other than the similar shapes you can't really compare them. All my range buddies liked it and everyone that shot it was surprised that it was wood.
If you're on a budget and want a tacticool style stock, get one of these. It isn't perfect, but it's worth the asking price. I'm getting one for each of my 93's I like it so much. Great product IMO.
Erin
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Are you sure the pad is glued on? I'd hate for you to be cutting it off and your saw runs into a couple of screws.
You might want to call Boyds and check on that. Sometimes the screwholes through the rubber "close up" and are hard to see.
If it is glued on, applying heat to the glue joint judiciously may soften the glue and make things easier.
Thanks for taking the time to write up your first impressions.
I would love to see a picture of the Hog Hunter in a Tacticool stock...
me to i'm stuck this stock or a richards micro fit tactical .i dont mind doing some wood work to get the right fit
I'll shoot a pic of her tomorrow in the sunlight and post it for y'all. It's fast becoming my favorite rifle of the 4 Savages I own!
As for the buttpad, it does have some VERY small holes where screws should go. When I get around to trying to remove it I'll check and make sure there aren't any in there. It is glued on, though, and very well glued indeed.
Erin
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Those small screw holes are probably just that. At the bottom of each hole will be the head of the screw holding the pad onto the stock.
(What follows is not a joke, and is not me getting into the gutter - I just don't know any better way of saying it.)
Put some lubrication on your screwdriver shaft when you try to unscrew it. Othewise the pad material will grab the shaft and make it difficult to insert or turn.
I can't remember if they use Phillips or slotted screws, I think Phillips. If one doesn't work try the other.
http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/...ps338b9f6b.jpg
It's my Savage 11 Hog Hunter in .223 wearing the Boyd's Tacticool stock, a Nikon Buckmasters 6-18X40 with sunshade, A2 flash hider and a Blackhawk bipod.
Erin
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SWEET looking setup dasphule!
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The forearm looks more B&C A2-styled (blocky low wings) than McM A5-styled (rounded)...
Which barrel channel did you order? How does it fit?Quote:
Originally Posted by dasphule
Did you do anything to the forend? It looks more beavertailed than the rounded rimfire forends.Quote:
Originally Posted by dasphule
This stock has really got my attention. I have four Boyds stocks (three thumbhole's and one tacticool rimfire) on rifles currently. I was going to put a B&C Medalist stock on my 10FP, but this seems just as nice for 1/2 the price. Once I bed the stock, I would expect it to shoot just as well.
The only thing I did to it was to open up the trigger inletting a little. Otherwise the action just dropped right in. The magazine is a little tight and at first I had it set too deep, but I pulled it up and now it's fine. I have not touched the fore end. I may end up having to clear out some material under the tang, though. It's not free floating. I ordered the heavy barrel channel as the Hog Hunter has a "medium" profile that's closer to heavy barrel than it is to the thinner factory profile.
Erin
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does that stock have a flat or round forend?
It's rounded. Here's some more shots so you have a better idea how it's shaped.
http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/...pscb9de137.jpg
http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/...psd3913202.jpg
http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/...ps8de7f65b.jpg
http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/...psde6dc600.jpg
Looks like it'll take a Harris bipod nicely. Thanks for the pics.
...that's definitely a different forearm than the rimfire Tacticool...
And likely a deal breaker for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoilerUP
i think its a awsome stock
ill be ordering one soon lol
Well, I ordered one. Don't know which gun it's going on but I ordered one..
Has anyone gotten a Tacticool center fire stock for a long action savage? I'm interested in one but Boyd’s only list factory barrel channel for the long action on there web site. I'm worried there won't be enough wood left after opening it up for a varmint barrel. If anyone has used a long action with a varmint contour barrel I would appreciate any info on how it fit after opening the channel up. Thanks!
Anyone know what happened to Gunline tools? The website at the above link is empty and I also went to Midway, used to have their products, comes up empty now!Quote:
Originally Posted by seanhagerty
No way. I love those guys.
Same for me. I hate it for them. I hope all is well.
Sean
If you have a router or a mill, you can use core box bits to do barrel inlets with. They are basically half round bits.
Magnate 812, and Magnate 814 are the ones I use. If you use a router, you have to make a guide so it follows centerline of your stock.
tag
I got two stocks from Boyds for my mod 12 BVSS 308 4.4 centerfeed
1. The Varminter
2. the Tacticool
Drop in fit on both was superb
I sold the Varminter stock as the reach to the trigger was uncomfortably too far a reach, sadly, as it was a beautiful stock.
I had the tacticool bedded and she shoots like a dream.
It is laminated wood, and the recoil pad is fitted with two screws !
if you dont have a router & a jig
you can open up a stock in about 30 min with a deep impact socket wrapped in 50grit-
I use a 9/16 with the 50 grit
then switch to a 5/8 with 220
this opens it up enough to free float a varmit countour
or about 1' at tip of channel
i had to open mine up for a varmint barrel i used a 3/4 pvc pipe wraped with sticky sandpaper worked great
What color laminate is under the black paint?