what are the pro's and con's of removing the red blade?
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what are the pro's and con's of removing the red blade?
You can get the blade spring force (felt by the finger) down to about 3.5oz by clipping 1 to 1.5 turns but you LOSE the safety provided if you remove it.
On a bench gun that MIGHT make a difference. Shimming is a MUST.
Red blade, silver blade, gold blade, the blades are the same.
I got the wife's Savage down to about 7.2oz TOTAL.
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MY 2cents--No need, in fact if you shoot targets IMHO it gives you a trigger feel like none other. For me I know once that blade is pulled back the next step is a light trigger contraction with your finger. Its a learned action however and like all other aspects of shooting it takes practice and concentration to master.
If you have a hunting rig and shoot little paper then you have the assurance of having a second safety on the trigger.
If you don't like the looks then do what Rocketvapor did for his wife's rig.
The wife is sort of new to this light trigger thing but LOVES the AccuTrigger.
https://flickr.com/photos/130540888@...posted-public/
I can't think of any pro for doing so. I have 2, both bench guns, both 8 - 9oz and want the safety blade.
Depends on what you are shooting. Anything but bench target shooting and you want the blade (including PRS). It is too easy to 'trip' a very light trigger. I have my varmint version set low and it will trip several times each time I go out. That means if the blade had not been there the gun would have fired without me touching the trigger.
Bench rest folks are used to that and treat their bolts with great care, not even inserting the bolt until range and rifles are set.
Set the blade force really low. The blade force also pushes on the trigger.
You don't want a high blade force tripping the trigger for you :nono:
Test with and with out the blade spring to see.
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Make sure you shim the trigger to remove side play.
what do you mean by shimming? How do you shim it?
There is a lot of movement/slop in the accutrigger. Many of use try to improve the consistency by adding shims on the trigger pin, between the trigger and the hanger. Centering it will help keep it from dragging on the hanger. Too many shims or too thick of shims will cause it to bind and not move freely. Getting it right improves the feel bigly.
Here is one source:
https://www.gunshack.com/savage-part...igger-shim-kit
Here's another shim source I have used, great guy too - https://www.triggershims.com/
The ones at Gun Shack are made by Triggershims. The only reason I pointed to Gun Shack was their support for Savages and this Website.
For those "tuning" their Accutrigger to a low release weight, test with a trigger pull gauge (or a calibrated finger) with the blade spring installed AND with the blade spring removed. Remove a turn or so from the bottom of the blade spring, dropping it to about 3oz of pull and the difference might surprise you. Pulling on the blade also pushes on the trigger.
I think about 50% of total pull for the blade is a good spot (just a guess).
When you get the pull where you want it touch the SIDE of the trigger and see if the side slop trips the trigger. Guess/measure the clearance between the trigger and hanger and shim up CLOSE to that. Probably 0.015" to 0.020".
Side movement twists the trigger resting on the sear and can cause a ND. Test with action out of the stock, AND with the rifle all put together and the action screws tight. Some test with a stock bump and by slamming the bolt home for trigger drops.
I still have the standard trigger/sear in the wife's rifle, just changed to a lighter target spring and cut the blade spring. At about 7oz total I feel I could make it a little less but the wife likes where it's at. Maybe when she gets better with position, repeatability, stress of competition, etc., I'll go lower.
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Will it EVER get to 2oz? Nope, never happening.
what trigger gauge is that ?
Amazon:
Pridefend Digital Pull Gauge
Tested with 100 gram weight ( 3.527oz ) Gauge indicates 3.4oz,
with 500 gram weight ( 17.637oz) indicates 17.7oz.
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EDIT: 200 gram weight ( 7.054oz) indicates 7.1oz.
Also checked with finger and seems about right :)
Thanks - didn't know that's where their shims came from. :thumb:Quote:
Originally Posted by Robinhood
If you ever tried to make shims out of SS shimstock you know it takes some good tooling to make those thin ones. It is a B&^%%Quote:
Originally Posted by PhilC
For what it's worth, I do not shim my triggers. I personally never felt the need. However,
Let me throw this out there. i have locked up the trigger on occasion at a match. Maybe
that's a good thing ??? Since I put side pressure on the trigger to make that happen, it
may have saved me from throwing a shot with that side pressure. Just food for thought !!
Weighing trigger pulls ?? I'm so old school on that one.....Tomato paste can with a hook.
Spoon in heavy sand until the trigger breaks. I can weigh a trigger within' .02 grains.
Yup, Dead weight works.
Either for trigger pull measurement or pull gauge calibration :)
using the Target trigger as a test jig.
Trying a replacement Accutrigger Safety Blade Spring.
Chinese 0.3 X 5 X 15mm.
Bent one loop up to fit into hole in trigger.
My Trigger Gauge has a lower limit of 1.8oz.
The blade will not register on the gauge.
Will swap spring into Flo's Savage to see what total force is.
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