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I think the picture says it all.
If you don't use the spacer, the 'bullets' will move forward and nose dive........sometimes.
But, you also have to move the spring forward, or they still want to nose dive.
Not simple, just wish they would make a Bushmaster Axis.
This is what works for me.
I don't have a bushmaster but I am betting this will help someone in the future.
How does it shoot?
https://up.picr.de/38274408qi.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Robinhood
Good to know. I'm seriously thinking of rebarreling my 243 Axis to Bushmaster. Did you make a plastic spacer?Quote:
Originally Posted by Underhammer
Mine was a 243 HB. I used some old scrap plastic.Quote:
Originally Posted by GaCop
Got my barrel yesterday from Rhineland in Spring Tx. $172 shipped. Temporarily spun the barrel on the action in order to open up the factory stock channel. Really had to open it up with a 3/4" sanding drum in a drill bit extension. Barrel is tight in the channel but I've opened it up as much as I can. I'd love to find a factory Axis stock with the varmint barrel channel, the would be a perfect fit. A Boyd's laminate would be another possibility but a lot more expensive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Underhammer
I looked at my 243 mag but am not sure how to safely remove the plastic base.Quote:
Originally Posted by Underhammer
It has little plastic fingers that snap into the metal mag. They break easily, be careful. That is why I won't pull it apart for pictures.Quote:
Originally Posted by GaCop
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Originally Posted by Underhammer
My 243 mag definitely need your modifications, rounds nose dive every time. So far put 10 rounds thru my build to get it sighted at 100 yards. Now for load development.
You can but the replacement bottoms from ebay others may carry them. I need a long action.
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Savage AXIS / Trophy Hunter Short-Action Magazine Base Plate 223 to 308 Calibers
Did the mag mod using a piece of pine I cut to fit the mag box. Modified the follower and used JB weld to attach the follower to the spring. Feeds the 250 gr FTX and 245 gr Interlock nice but 300 grain XTP-MAG loads hang on the front of the mag box even though I lowered the front as much as I can. Mouth of the case hangs on edge of mag. I beveled the front inside mag edge w/o results.
Try opening the spring, so that you have more spring tension on the front. When I push down on the bullet, it springs right back up!
Did that yesterday. I'll see how it does Sunday at the Club range.Quote:
Originally Posted by Underhammer
Shooting yesterday, first two fed great, last one 'popped' and jumped and jammed. So close!
I may try my WSM next, take the bottom off the Mod mag and a spacer......so very close.
I may open the feed lips a smidgen!
Tweeked the spring but, blunt bullet loads still hang up on the mouth of the case and front of mag
Lower the front!Quote:
Originally Posted by GaCop
Have you tried to open the feed lips and get the case setting higher? I am going to try to open mine a smidgen.
I messed with mine last night and every last case fed great. Mine is close, but not perfect.
:::Just opened the front up .010, it was .390", now it is .400" the front of the case and bullet set higher.
Close it slow or fast and they all fed OK.
I use two fits all wrenches and pry apart.
I'll give that a try, thanks!Quote:
Originally Posted by Underhammer
About to attempt this, will post results.
I haven't done it yet. Weather permitting, I'm going to test some loads I made up with 405 gr cast RNFPs resized from .458" to .452", over Unique.
To clarify- you don't modify the spring at all correct?
"To clarify- you don't modify the spring at all correct?"
Punched a 1/8" hole thru it for a small screw to hold it from sliding.
Opened up the feed lips but, with two in the mag, top round feed slick, last round still hangs up on case mouth. Still a work in progress...….
I'm not having any luck either. Tried the above mods and also tried modding the original 223 mag like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2jJhj5Zd10
So far no joy.
Would a WSM mag be useful?
Don't know about a WSM mag but I got a 22-250 mag off of eBay but it needs mods too and will not feed blunt bullets. I notice, all bullets clear the front of the mag box, it's the mouth of the case that hangs up. Gotta play with feed lips more and mod the follower/spring.Quote:
Originally Posted by mattri
Thanks for the information re the 22-250 mags. Do they need the spacer added at the rear of the mag as well?
Unless you have the original 22-250 mag that has the block in it, you need to add one.Quote:
Originally Posted by mattri
That move the shells forward, this causes nose diving!
Now you need to move the spring forward. Maybe even give it a stretch.
Then, you may need to widen the feed lips.
WSM mags need the feed lips closed up a bit, so that the cases don't push up and out!
Or, just use a 223 Mag.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2jJ...ature=youtu.be
It just might. I tried a few of my 300 grain XTP Mags and the mouth of the case hung up just like my 243 mag did. I have yet to start playing with adjustments.Quote:
Originally Posted by mattri
I did find that Hornady 350 grain jacketed round nose seem to feed will from my modified 243 magazine after I first crimped the round with the Lee collet crimp die and then my RCBS 45 ACP taper crimp die . The Hornady 350 grain were originally .458 diameter so I ran them thru my .454 sizer then a .452, they came out great. Did the same thing with Speer 400 grain JFPs.
Thanks for the replies. May try working with the 223 mag some more, it seems close.
It looks like a lot of spreading, go slow, or it could end up quite ugly looking!Quote:
Originally Posted by mattri
Have you tried the spring and follower out of the 223 in the 308 mag? [with block]
Wonder how a 350 Legend mag would work..
Success!
The WSM mag works! I bent the feed lips in just a touch and used the spring from the 223 mag, moving it to the front of the mag and using a little JB weld to hold it in place.
My handloads with 300gr XTPs feed and I now have an honest 3 round mag.
The 400gr cast bullets have such a huge meplat that I don't know if they would ever feed reliably in any mag, factory or not.
Will post pics soon.
Still curious re a 350 Legend mag...
Great, glad that you have one that works!
Did you use a rear spacer?
Good to know, thanks! My resized 45-70s, RNFP, will feed from my modified 243 magazine. I have them seated out quite far and that seems to help feeding. I'm only about .020" OTL. The first two feed beautifully but the last want's to hang up just a bit at the case mouth.Quote:
Originally Posted by mattri