A different Choate question

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09-22-2014, 09:12 PM
Broke_Okie_Ty

No longer Choate, but Woodchuck questions

Anyone used or have one of these? http://www.riflestock.com/store/do/product/06-06-02 <------- Not really looking at this as an option anymore, unless someone give me an opinion on it.

I have a 111 fcns 300wm and am looking to replace the stock. The options seem to be really slim pickings in this department. I would like to find something in a more traditional or varmint style that will accept a 26" heavy magnum or varmint contour barrel. I am a pretty handy guy and feel I can do things up to barrel channeling and bottom metal in-letting.

questions
1. Does the money saver come in-letted for the barreled action, or just action?
2. Can I use the factory DBM and bottom metal if I can make it work?
3. How much do they weigh-ish? (couldn't find the weight of one)
D. Can I get some pics or links to similar builds to mine?

Pretty isn't my thing, but saving money is. That being said, do you (owners of Stockade money savers) feel that the quality of the unfinished stock is worth the time/effort and wait time?
09-22-2014, 09:17 PM
bootsmcguire

Haven't even seen one of those, have you thought about a laminate?

Boyds offers some nice variations of the style of stock you seem to want in quite a few color options.
09-22-2014, 10:52 PM
Broke_Okie_Ty

I don't really want laminate. I really want a MCmillian but thats gonna be 6 bills..... I just can't justify it atm.
09-22-2014, 10:53 PM
Broke_Okie_Ty

or I was looking at hogue
09-22-2014, 11:16 PM
bootsmcguire

Check out the B&C Medalist. That may be just what you need.
09-22-2014, 11:53 PM
Broke_Okie_Ty

they dont make that in a LA with DBM that I saw
09-23-2014, 12:02 AM
bootsmcguire

Ahh, didn't know you needed a DBM.

You could always switch to blind mag and open up a few possibilities. Pretty simple switch if you want to.

Otherwise other than the Hogue or the Medalist, and not wanting a Laminate, the only other thought I have would be to order up a Stockade in the Money Saver and finish it yourself.
09-23-2014, 01:21 AM
Broke_Okie_Ty

I may just try the hogue and if I don't like it, I'll just resale it. <------ After reading some reviews and remembering the 10-22 I checked out, I think the rubber finish would suck for what I intend to do with the rig.
09-23-2014, 04:21 PM
aubie515

OP sent you a PM about a Hogue. Didn't see that you needed DBM.

I have an Hogue with full aluminum bedding block for LA, but mine is for center feed.
09-23-2014, 08:10 PM
Broke_Okie_Ty

PM'd you back aubie

I looked at the Stockade "woodchuck" and I like the style. What all is involved with the money saver one? I think that seems like a good way to go. I would hate to spend money on a completely finished stock when I am just going to krylon camo it.

Plus the satisfaction of some "hands on" appeals to me.
09-23-2014, 11:25 PM
bootsmcguire

Normally it is just some light sanding to remove mold marks. Maybe some light inletting to free float the tang and barrel. Then just install pillars and/or epoxy bed and paint to your liking and your in.

Might wanna check with Stockade on their lead times. Not sure where they are running right now.
09-24-2014, 12:16 AM
Broke_Okie_Ty

Maybe I am misunderstanding, but I thought these stocks had an aluminium bed block? Or do the pillars need to be installed also? It's my understanding that the action bolts directly to the bed block, unless I missed something.
09-24-2014, 12:43 AM
bootsmcguire

Duh, sorry been awhile since I worked with mine. Too many rifles, my apologies. Old age must be setting in very prematurely.
09-24-2014, 01:07 AM
Broke_Okie_Ty

It's ok. I feel the same way. My head is spinning with all the information I have been through in this venture. I'm going to have to start treating this like a research paper and organizing my resources and info. Also, no apologies necessary. You can never have "too many guns" :)
09-24-2014, 01:18 AM
bootsmcguire

Quote:

Originally Posted by Broke_Okie_Ty

You can never have "too many guns" :)

Amen!
09-24-2014, 01:53 AM
Broke_Okie_Ty

Not to get to far off the topic, but would you keep the factory DBM and bottom metal? Or buy new stuff?
09-24-2014, 02:16 PM
Tarheelpwr

Quote:

Originally Posted by Broke_Okie_Ty

Anyone used or have one of these? http://www.riflestock.com/store/do/product/06-06-02 <------- Not really looking at this as an option anymore, unless someone give me an opinion on it.

I have a 111 fcns 300wm and am looking to replace the stock. The options seem to be really slim pickings in this department. I would like to find something in a more traditional or varmint style that will accept a 26" heavy magnum or varmint contour barrel. I am a pretty handy guy and feel I can do things up to barrel channeling and bottom metal in-letting.

questions
1. Does the money saver come in-letted for the barreled action, or just action?
2. Can I use the factory DBM and bottom metal if I can make it work?
3. How much do they weigh-ish? (couldn't find the weight of one)
D. Can I get some pics or links to similar builds to mine?

Pretty isn't my thing, but saving money is. That being said, do you (owners of Stockade money savers) feel that the quality of the unfinished stock is worth the time/effort and wait time?

He quoted me about 2.5 pounds on the weight. I asked my smith about the DBM and he said it can be done, but the shape of the stock doesn't match well with the DBM.
09-24-2014, 03:33 PM
Broke_Okie_Ty

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tarheelpwr

He quoted me about 2.5 pounds on the weight. I asked my smith about the DBM and he said it can be done, but the shape of the stock doesn't match well with the DBM.

Meh, function over form. I don't really care if it doesn't match up well. Some sort of a mag is a must though. 2.5 sounds good to me.

Any pictures of the unfinished stock as it comes?
09-24-2014, 03:40 PM
Tarheelpwr

Quote:

Originally Posted by Broke_Okie_Ty

Meh, function over form. I don't really care if it doesn't match up well. Some sort of a mag is a must though. 2.5 sounds good to me.

Any pictures of the unfinished stock as it comes?

He can go up or down as well. I don't know how much, but he can shave some weight if that matters. He has prices listed on the site for taking the weight up.
09-24-2014, 03:50 PM
Broke_Okie_Ty

Who is "he"?
09-24-2014, 03:56 PM
Tarheelpwr

Quote:

Originally Posted by Broke_Okie_Ty

Who is "he"?

Kevin. Owner of Stockade. I assumed you would be buying a new one made to spec.
09-24-2014, 04:29 PM
Broke_Okie_Ty

Oh yes I will, unless the gun gods smile upon me and I happen to find exactly what I want used. I can/will remove the material I feel is unnecessary myself.

I was just confused because you said "my smith".
09-24-2014, 04:32 PM
Tarheelpwr

Quote:

Originally Posted by Broke_Okie_Ty

Oh yes I will, unless the gun gods smile upon me and I happen to find exactly what I want used. I can/will remove the material I feel is unnecessary myself.

I was just confused because you said "my smith".

Oh, my smith for this project is Dan at Darkeagle Customs.
09-24-2014, 04:38 PM
Broke_Okie_Ty

I see. I am going to be doing everything I can myself. Any major problems, I can always go see the local smith.
09-25-2014, 05:51 PM
Broke_Okie_Ty

Looks like I'm going to have to buy new bottom metal and DBM set up. Any suggestions on a mag that will run 300wm at 3.65"ish?
09-25-2014, 06:29 PM
Tarheelpwr

Quote:

Originally Posted by Broke_Okie_Ty

Looks like I'm going to have to buy new bottom metal and DBM set up. Any suggestions on a mag that will run 300wm at 3.65"ish?

3.6 isn't too bad. Pretty sure AICS mags will get you that, so CDI bottom metal. Accurate mag also makes a 3.6 as well as a 3.85 length that will handle 3.75ish OAL. PTG one on midway may even get you 3.6, not sure.
09-25-2014, 07:04 PM
Broke_Okie_Ty

I have been searching for a list of bottom metal and mag makers. I want to run the 215 hybrid bergers and as far as I can tell, a proper set up is OAL of 3.65ish. I am having a hard time putting this together. Accurate Mag says they have mags with up to 3.850 which is plenty to run the cartridge.
09-25-2014, 09:37 PM
Tarheelpwr

Quote:

Originally Posted by Broke_Okie_Ty

I have been searching for a list of bottom metal and mag makers. I want to run the 215 hybrid bergers and as far as I can tell, a proper set up is OAL of 3.65ish. I am having a hard time putting this together. Accurate Mag says they have mags with up to 3.850 which is plenty to run the cartridge.

Yes, accurate mag should work. But, keep in mind the internal dimensions are about 3.75". You won't get the full 3.85, but then you shouldn't need it.

If you're going with the accurate mag, you could always find a 110FCP 338 Lapua take off HSP stock that someone swapped out. It comes with the 3.85 bottom metal. Then, you would just need a 300 win magazine.
09-25-2014, 11:33 PM
Broke_Okie_Ty

Do you by chance know what the Accuracy International mag specs are? I almost feel like I could make my own mags.
09-26-2014, 12:20 AM
Tarheelpwr

Quote:

Originally Posted by Broke_Okie_Ty

Do you by chance know what the Accuracy International mag specs are? I almost feel like I could make my own mags.

No clue.
09-26-2014, 12:57 AM
Broke_Okie_Ty

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tarheelpwr

No clue.

Worth a shot. Thank you for all the help :cool:
09-26-2014, 08:10 AM
Tarheelpwr

Glad to help.
10-01-2014, 04:33 PM
reynoldsfamily3

According to "Precision Rifle Blog" the COAL on a AICS 300 Win Mag magazine is 3.625 inches http://precisionrifleblog.com/2012/1...ions-max-coal/
10-02-2014, 09:59 PM
Broke_Okie_Ty

I'm going to give a shot to building my own mags. That way I can make them exactly how I want them.
10-06-2014, 10:37 AM
reynoldsfamily3

I ordered a Choate Tactical from CDI and had them inlet it for their bottom metal. That was the only way I could get a Long Action stock set up for DBM.
10-06-2014, 10:44 AM
Tarheelpwr

Quote:

Originally Posted by reynoldsfamily3

I ordered a Choate Tactical from CDI and had them inlet it for their bottom metal. That was the only way I could get a Long Action stock set up for DBM.

That's probably the easiest/cheapest, but not the only way.
10-06-2014, 02:27 PM
Broke_Okie_Ty

I'm looking for a more carry friendly stock. I don't want to pack a 15lb rifle 10 miles a day. I also don't feel the tactical would be very helpful for an off hand shot if I were presented with one.

I have settled on the Stockade woodchuck and if I can I will have it in-letted for the factory bottom metal and dbm. If not' I will just do it myself with the drimmel. Then I'll build my own mags to run the cartridge I want to run.