New Calibers in the model 25

Hey Everyone. I already own a model 25 Lightweight Varmint, and I have been real impressed with this rifle. My rifle is chambered in 223. I was looking on Savages website, and I was looking for one of the model 40 in 22 Hornet. I don't see the model 40 at all. But I checked out the model 25's and I saw some new offerings in different calibers. The New Walking varmint rifles are going to come in 204 Ruger, 222 rem, 223 Rem, 22 Hornet and 5.7x28. Seems to be a nice group of varmint calibers. Another model I did not see is the model 25 Classic. I will be interested to find out what the price of the different model 25's will be...Ray

looks like the model 40 is gone. if i get a new savage hornet it will have to be a 25

I'm excited to see the 5.7x28. I think it would be even more awesome if they neck down the cartridge to 17 cal.

I've got a M40,and hate to see them dropping it? :-[ It sure wasn't form lack of sales? The single shot has the advantage of letting you seat the bullet out farther (can't do that with a magazine gun) and getting spot on accuracy. Plus you can shoot longer bullets in it,50-55gr. It's a great light weight carry gun,for coyote calling in areas where your shots are 200yds. or less! Ron

I'm thinking that the 5.7x28 performs similarly to the .22 Hornet, but has a modern case more suitable for reloading and is perhaps more efficient.

If I had a choice between the two, I'd take the 5.7x28 FN chambering.

It wouldn't be surprising to me if the cartridge finds its real home with ranchers, varmint shooters, and economy-minded sportsmen.

It is exciting to see this chambering at last available in a fine sporting rifle.

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Originally Posted by Salvo

I'm thinking that the 5.7x28 performs similarly to the .22 Hornet, but has a modern case more suitable for reloading and is perhaps more efficient.

If I had a choice between the two, I'd take the 5.7x28 FN chambering.

It wouldn't be surprising to me if the cartridge finds its real home with ranchers, varmint shooters, and economy-minded sportsmen.

It is exciting to see this chambering at last available in a fine sporting rifle.

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Right now, no brass other than FN - big "IF" if it will catch on.

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Originally Posted by Eric in NC

Right now, no brass other than FN - big "IF" if it will catch on.

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I'm just happy to see that a good sporting rifle in that caliber is available.

Popularity is not a big issue with me, my favorite caliber for a 1911 auto is 10mm.

:D FINALY A SAVAGE REPEATER IN A 22 HORNET HAVE BEEN WATING FOR THIS FOR 10 YEARS WAS JUST GOING TO BUY A RUGER IN A HORNET NOT A BIG FAN BUT DID NOT WANT A SINGAL SHOT ;D

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Originally Posted by Eric in NC

Right now, no brass other than FN - big "IF" if it will catch on.

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I'm just happy to see that a good sporting rifle in that caliber is available.

Popularity is not a big issue with me, my favorite caliber for a 1911 auto is 10mm.

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Did you get one of Tom Gresham's GT-10s?

No GT-10 here.

I've used the big Smith, the AIA longslide, the Colt Delta Elite and my all-time favorite, the Colt Double Eagle.

Been looking at the Dan Wessons.

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Originally Posted by Salvo

I'm thinking that the 5.7x28 performs similarly to the .22 Hornet, but has a modern case more suitable for reloading and is perhaps more efficient.

If I had a choice between the two, I'd take the 5.7x28 FN chambering.

It wouldn't be surprising to me if the cartridge finds its real home with ranchers, varmint shooters, and economy-minded sportsmen.

It is exciting to see this chambering at last available in a fine sporting rifle.

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Can some of you with a little better understanding of the ballistics between these two tell me how the 5.7x28 would compare to the .204? Ive been interested in both cartridges for quite a while for prarie dogis but never really thought about the 5.7 in a rifle. But now...

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Originally Posted by rks1949

I've got a M40,and hate to see them dropping it? :-[ It sure wasn't form lack of sales? The single shot has the advantage of letting you seat the bullet out farther (can't do that with a magazine gun) and getting spot on accuracy. Plus you can shoot longer bullets in it,50-55gr. It's a great light weight carry gun,for coyote calling in areas where your shots are 200yds. or less! Ron

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+1, hate to see it go, but at the same time at least glad they kept the Hornet in the lineup at all. I have a M40 rechambered in 22 K-Hornet and have been working on a couple of new loads both require bullets seated way out there. Like the single shot platform for that.

Any member tried this 5.7 X 28 model 25? Why didn't savage offer the 221fb instead?

"The single shot has the advantage of letting you seat the bullet out farther (can't do that with a magazine gun) and getting spot on accuracy". I beg to differ, but I load and shoot "long" loads out of magazine rifles, as long as the chambering will allow.
Art

Predator xtreme came in the mail tuesday,showed a new caliber in the model25 a 5.45x39 in 2012.Would that be a 20cal,showed a 60 bullet 2810 fps. thanks

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Predator xtreme came in the mail tuesday,showed a new caliber in the model25 a 5.45x39 in 2012.Would that be a 20cal,showed a 60 bullet 2810 fps. thanks

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No that is a Russian service round (7.62x39 necked down to 22 cal).

Newest "Predator Extreme" also mentions new 5.7x28 from Hornady. Can anyone confirm this? As soon as I can buy a Model 25 in 5.7x28 the barrel will be for sale, as I'm gearing up for building a 17 Velociraptor.

Is the bolt face on the 5.7X 28mm the same as the hornet?

I think this little rifle would be a dead ringer for a 300 BLK!

The 5.45 x 39 round is basically a russian equivalent to a 223/5.56 nato. I has a little less power, but was made for lighter guns. It shares the same 39mm length as the 7.62 x 39 cartidge but they have different case designs, they do not share the same parent case or geneology.. The 5.45 has been retired in Russia (and eastern block), and is cheaper surplus now - about the cheapest blasting ammo you can get. You can get corrosive primer surplus ammo for less than $0.15 - 0.18 per round. Non-corrosive Silver Bear Ammo is about $0.23-0.25/rnd now..

I have a 5.45 x 39 upper for my A/R and the round has a slightly different diameter bolt head (approx .393"). Most all ammo I find to use is going to be 60 grain, they seemed to standardize on a heavier round than the 55gr FMJ you find in the 223/5.56.

The 7.62 x 39 SKS/AK round is a bigger case, has more taper and a larger rim(.447").


All-in-all its a good cheap ammo to shoot, so you don't feel guilty when you do a mag dump... (last range outing, we set my 5.45 upper on a full auto lower and had plenty of 30 rnd mag dumps with no major issues... it was a hoot!)

You won't go through the 5.45 as fast in the bolt action, but its still good to have a day at the range where every 20 rounds of factory ammo keep setting you back $10-20.....or every 50 is $20-30 if you're shooting 223....


SC

I was hoping for a 221 fireball also.

It won't happen but I would like one in 25/20 because it is a better round than Hornet. I have one on a Martini Cadet action and it can do everything a hornet does and more. 8)