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The one thing about savage that really makes no sense,is why is the rear piller cut out the way it is.
On every savage that I have ever messed with I always remove the cut rear piller and install a solid one.
Very simple fix that would take no extra time at the factory.
What are they thinking.
ATTENTION RON COBURN!
I always thought it was necessary for sear rotation clearance.
Can you show how you used a solid pillar on a Savage rifle?
The pillar is cut that way to clear the sear.
You have to think outside the box on this one.
I will get some pictures if someonew will help me post them.
Looking forward to this one.
You bet!Quote:
Originally Posted by geargrinder
So who is going to post some pictures for me?
I will I pm'd you my email.
Pictures sent to you geargrinder
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And there you have it.
So easy that a cave man can do it!
Or why didnt I think of that!
The groups posted are fireform 5 shot groups 6mm PPC savage!
That's is what I figured you did was notch the sear. Many on the site over the years has tried this method. Just be careful because the sears are known to crack half, starting right up the thin area between the notch and hole.
I have been doing this for 20 years.
Never have had one crack.
Savage has been notching pillars since '96 and haven't any problems, either.
If you haven't cracked a sear yet, consider yourself lucky... many have tryed it and failed. Despite what popular belief is, there is nothing wrong with a notched pillar.
The older Savage three piece sears did not have the indexing hole that the newer stamped versions do have.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrgunslinger
If there is nothing wrong with the rear piller then why do people play with torque settings and such.
So when you torque the rear bolt to tight,it isnt flexing the action with a notched piller set up?
My findings is that it does.
For the benefits that I see,you are foolish in not doing it this way.
When you build your house you want a solid foundation dont you?
This is something that savage could improve on to help them be the BEST!
You always got to make advances or you will be left behind.
Do it your way and I will do it mine.
There is a reason the rifles that I build shoot really really well!
Well thats one of the reasons!
you could drill your pillar off center and just have lesser pillar towards the shear, nothing needs to be notched then.
Or a thinner rear pillar.
Sinman beat me to it. I have not pillar bedded my 110 yet, but I plan to make my own pillar and drill the hole off center so it can be set forward so that neither the pillar nor the sear needs to be notched.
I have not used him yet, but based on what I have read in his posts I would listen to Sinman.
People play with torque settings etc. with every action, pillar system, etc. etc. out there (even custom actions). Not unique to Savage. Give people a screw or bolt and they will turn it to try to get a better result!
If you don't carefully profile the tops of the pillars to the unique contour of the bottom of your receiver (most Savages I have seen are at least a little warped) the larger metal to metal contact area just makes for more variability.
Of course - if it works for you, more power to you!
http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/...s-on-a-budget/Quote:
There is nothing wrong with a notched pillar.
Did the Team Savage rifles have a notched rear pillar? If they did, it is difficult for me, considering the results of the world championships, to understand how that was a handicap shooting against some very expensive rifles that did not have a notched rear pillar. Where am I wrong here?
LOL your run on sentence lost me. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by wbm
Heck my junky old 110 with a rear half pillar is every bit as competitive as much more expensive custom action guns.
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d145/82boy/6x47L.jpg
I think this next picture is proof enough to state that.
[img width=600 height=437]http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d145/82boy/IMG_0455.jpg[/img]
That picture was from the 2010 IBS 600 nationals. Not only did I beat out a few dozen of the high dollar custom guns, (Bats, Pandas, ETC) but I also beat out the top shooters in the world. (At least in that match.) My gun built out of junk, shoots just as competitively as Sam Hall's, Glen Sterling's, and Richard Schatz's guns. I guess one could argue that it could shoot better with a full pillar in the back, but I happy with it, and my thought is if it ain't broke don't fix it.
Most cool! Great shooting. Wanna sell it? ;D
Depending on my job situation I may have to. Right now it is too early to tell.Quote:
Originally Posted by wbm
correct me if I am wrong, but didn't Richard win 2010 nationals? So if he won that would mean his gun or skill is better than yours wouldn't it?
congrats on the match win but........Richard Schatz did win 2010 nationals
to 82boy all I can say is Oh No! Not another one! Very sorry to hear it's even possible, it gets OLD very fast! When I pray for me, I'll try to remember you guys and gals on here also.
Well, Yes Richard did win the overall, but that single match I beat him out for score. The point I was making is the gun I built is just as competitive as any other.Quote:
Originally Posted by ndhunter
Did you shoot in the match?