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Howdy all. If all goes well tomorrow, my Axis is going to the range for the first time! Just gonna run some 55gr Winchester through it for function and see what happens.
Picked it up new, and got it at a good price ($350). Can't wait to make some empty brass. I'll give it a write up some time shortly!
Y'all take care.
Welcome and have fun with your new rifle.
Let us know how it shoots.
Monday was a no go. Bummer! Mother Nature didn't cooperate. Next Monday is on the schedule now. Fingers crossed!! Forgot to add that I've got 2 mags for both rifles on the way as well.
Y'all take care:cool:
EDIT: Mags got here early (yesterday). Savage marked, and function was fine. Sure don't like the price though - $49 each.
****** man!! Mother Nature strikes again:frusty: Rain early and 15 - 25mph wind. Here we go again with the next Monday thing. 3rd time a charm, and all that.
Y'all take care.
That's why we like the southwest. Great shooting almost all year long, except when the winds blow in the spring :)
Been all over the SW, charlie b (several times), Mikee likes it, too! Last time I was working in NM, I was at the Intel plant outside al-ba-cracky. Ah well, can't win 'em all. However, being a bona-fide Native Flor-i-didian, I'm kinda prejudiced towards it! Worked all over the country, and only missed 3 of the lower 48, all of 'em have at least a little bit in their favor. Miss the traveling and working in other states, but it's outta my control.
We lived in the mountains east of ABQ for 17 years. Grew up in Phx so you could say I am a desert rat at heart.
Yup, I remember some of those 60 mph spring winds in and around Clovis!Quote:
Originally Posted by charlie b
My axis 308 is becoming a 223 when my new to me barrel comes in Friday. It’s been a while since I’ve had a Bolt action 223. Can’t wait to punch some holes.
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Love my .223, only rifle I shoot now as an old man, easy on the old bones!
Old or not. The .223 is capable of logical engagements.Quote:
Originally Posted by longislandloco
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As I said in my earlier post, I FINALLY made it to the range this morning. Everything worked well, including Mother Nature. I didn't shoot for groups, just breaking in everything. All 3 mags were perfect. Rifle worked perfect. Only complaint is with the ammo. 8 duds outta 54 rounds. this is new Win ammo with a LC 223 Rem headstamp. Based on this (very) small sample, I gotta ask WTH Win is doing with their (lack of) QC?? 8 outta 54 - are you kidding me??? Ah well, can't win 'em all. I'll finish up this box, and see what happens with the rest.
Y'all take care.
Congratulations.
It may not be the ammo, but, light strikes on the primers. Did you try them a second or third time? Do the primers look like they got a good hit?
charlie
charlie b: Yes to all of the above. All of the primers had a very good indent - they look the same as all of the ones that went bang. No light strikes at all. Tried all of them 2-3 times. Had one mag where all 4 were duds. And no, that mag worked perfectly except for those 4. 'Preciate your response! And yes, I enjoyed it a bunch. I need to get out there more often.
I guess that's partly good news, just bad ammo.
Bad news it is still hard to find that ammo. About every 2 or 3 months the local shop gets a shipment of .223 (usually labeled 5.56). At least they don't mark up the price.
Have fun out there.
They are two different rounds. 5.56 will make the bolt very hard to lift in some rifles.Quote:
Originally Posted by charlie b
Most 556 has hard primers to avoid slam fire in a semi. A SAR 3 will slam fire the hell out of 233 hunting ammo if the action is the least bit dirty.Quote:
Originally Posted by prdatr
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Never had any problems with 5.56ammo in my Axis. If you decide to use it you should probably look up what the differences are.
A bit late to this but I posted here too about FTF with my Axis 223 while using reloads with CCI #41 PRIMERS that are meant for Semi-auto 223/556 and then also having misfires with NATO marked crimped ammo. My Axis does not play well with this stuff. Normal commercial 223 and stuff I loaded with regular SRP all fired as it should.
Thanks KMW. I hadn't seen that thread. When I start working up some loads, I'll be using either Win or CCI standard primers anyway, but it's good info to have.Quote:
Originally Posted by KMW1954
Y'all take care.
My new Axis in .223 was delivered Monday, looking forward to getting to the range for sight-in on the weekend. Chance of snow is reasonably low and temps look to be in single digit below freezing here in my area of Ontario, Canada. As long as I remember to take my neoprene hunting seat nothing delicate should stick to the metal seat.
Trigger finger is itching just looking at the gun here in my office.
Just a good reminder in you haven’t.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ruger_375_110
I would.
Scrub barrel with a brass brush and gritty tooth paste. On a drill with a rod.
Then run a few wet patches down the pipe. Then dry ones. Until clean.
Then I would set the trigger to the pull weight you desire. You can get the stock trigger down to around 2.5# maybe less with some polishing.
A few foul shots and you should be ready to print some groups.
It’s easy and quick to bed the front of the action and recoil lug with JB weld. If it’s a standard recoil lug.
If it’s an accustock then you should be good to go.
Cheers
Just trying to save a man some ammo since this buying frinzy has prices high.
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Thanks hamiltonkiler, appreciate the suggestions.
I swabbed with solvent and then dried. Will now go back over it with brass brush, follow with solvent and dry it out.
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Originally Posted by hamiltonkiler
I don't know if it is necessary or not but I followed the Savage recommended break in procedures and my Axis shoots pretty good. It might have shot just as well without it but if it didn't, I would always question if it would have shot better if I had. It does take a little time and effort to do but I think I would do it again.Quote:
Originally Posted by hamiltonkiler
I’ve never used a break in process of any sort and have never had an issue. If groups open up I clean the barrel. That’s about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Snerdly
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My .223 would have shot better, faster if I had taken the time to break it in. It finally settled down to 1/2MOA and less after about 400 rounds.
just finished my 223 build by adding a long baffle from a 10. I wish I'd taken time to set up the mill to remove the indexing tab as my grinding job looks like hammered dog shit. I can still clean it up with the mill so its not a total loss, Midway has the baffles for $5 so its a cheap mod.
Can we see the gun you lost In the boating accident?Quote:
Originally Posted by ninner
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Reminds me of an incident a while back. Father-in-law was Navy and was stationed on Guam during the mid 60's. A friend of his had been stationed there several times (he was married to a local) and had a house there. He was on orders back to the states where he was going to retire and he had a bunch of guns that just would not be legal in the US. Acquired over the years from various islands in the South Pacific. So, they had a boat party. A real one. They took the illegal stuff out to sea and dumped them. Several Thompson sub guns, couple of bazookas, one BAR, Japanese machine gun, etc Even a couple of mortars. Something like 20 items went into the ocean.
And just so it would not go to waste, many of then were fired for the last time before they went over. Even one of the bazookas still had a couple of rounds to go with it.
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ninner - Sweet!!
Got out to range on 20-Feb and sighted in at 25 yards. HEAVY trigger, ugh. Returned to range on 21st and shot at 50 yards. Moved through scope power from 3 to 9 and got consistent point of aim. Spent some time on 26th adjusting/reducing trigger pull. Got on 100 yd on range 28-Feb, first shot called flyer, next 4 shots in bullseye for a 1" group. Really looking forward to getting comfortable at 100 and moving out to 200 and 400 yards over next few weeks.
Appreciate the tips provided,
Dave
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Originally Posted by hamiltonkiler
Are you still using the 55 grain Winchester? Handloads might shoot better but some factory loads shoot well too.
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Originally Posted by Mr.Snerdly
Not sure if you're asking me, or someone else Mr. S. At any rate, I'm just using the 55g for getting some range time with it. Still working on getting back out there and making some more empty cases. After ~100 or so (might take all 150 of 'em to get 100 to fire though:mad:), I'll start experimenting and working up some loads with several different boolits.
If this question was to me, then I have started with American Eagle 55 gr FMJ. I bought 2 boxes of them as the cheapest ammo for rough sighting in use. Got my hands on 400 rounds of Winchester 55 gr FMJ, they will be next up the spout to compare against the AE rounds. Considering starting reloading perhaps in the summer as I expect to shoot more when the days get longer.
Dave
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Originally Posted by Mr.Snerdly
My Axis shoots the best with the Sierra 77 grain Match King. Charlie B suggested them and they are just ever so slightly better than the 69 grain Sierra Match King. I also shot some 52 grain Hornady that shot pretty well. I tried some 68 grain Hornady and they didn't seem to work very well at all but I can't really say for sure since I didn't shoot many. It might have been an error my part. I will try they again and see what happens. Of course, your rifle may be different but mine and Charlie's seem to work very well with the Sierras.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ruger_375_110
Thanks. CFJunkie has a long post on his .223 development efforts. He and I also had trouble with the Hornady 68gn HPBT match bullets. But, the Hornady ELD bullets do very well.
For factory stuff, if you can find it, try Black Hills or Federal Gold Medal Match ammo with the Sierra 69gn Matchking bullets (or 77gn if you can find them). They have an excellent reputation for accuracy.
I had bad luck with almost all the less expensive .223 or 5.56 ammo. 1 1/2 to 2" groups were the norm for me.