I am looking for a good deer round something in the 95 gr to 100gr I already have H414 powder also
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I am looking for a good deer round something in the 95 gr to 100gr I already have H414 powder also
Sorry, but are you looking to reload?
Looked up some of my old loads and found 39.5 of this powder with a 95 grain Nosler BT was okay, but this was not my fav powder.
I have been getting SUPER accuracy out of the Nosler Flat Base 100 gr. bullets, on top of Varget powder.
If you want a less expensive bullet, try the 100 Gr. Sierra Pro-Hunter Part #:1540. It too is a SPFB type bullet.
My experience with the ballistic tipped bullets is that they come apart a little quicker than I personally like. Your experience may vary. Only way to know for sure is to try them yourself. Otherwise, if body shots are preferred, either of the 2 bullets listed above have proven more than capable.
Hate to burst your bubble but American Hunter magazine just put the 243 on its "Worst Deer Calibers" list. So you won't be able to kill deer with it no more cuz its just not enough gun. ::)
LOL right, the .243 won't kill a deer.
100 grn Sierra Game King above 35.5grns of IMR4064 shot .75 at 225 all day long and dropped a big mulie with one shot.
I'm sure glad no one told the Georgia deer when I was using my Ruger 77 and 85gr Sierra BTHPs.
I'm using 42grs of H414 w/ CCI 250's and Nosler 95gr ballistic tips.
Seems like every few years some "Wadi" comes along and decides that he is the only person that knows anything about rifles and hunting. . Think I'll just keep on hunting with mine anyway.Quote:
American Hunter magazine just put the 243 on its "Worst Deer Calibers" list.
If you want a hot all around load for deer or hogs, load up some 80 gr barnes TTSX
bullets over RL17.
I got close to 3400 FPS out of our browning BLR with an 18" barrel.
Hate to burst your bubble but American Hunter magazine just put the 243 on its "Worst Deer Calibers" list. So you won't be able to kill deer with it no more cuz its just not enough gun.I have a VLP 243. the only work i have done was bed the stock, and tweak the trigger! Good optics of course!
Mine will shoot Federal Factory load out there up to 95grns. And when put in the right place, the deer will drop. Nossler NBT's are devestating, 55'S. 70
S. 95'S. The 85 Sierra Gameking is bad to the bone. I mention this as I don't know how much you going to shoot the gun, but just for a hunting rig, I would shoot factory loads vs reloading!
I will send you pictures of my 243 targets if you wish, it's on of my favorite guns! It's nice to picked up a box of 55nbt's or a box of 90 and be confident! BLACK HILLS OR FEDERAL'S. SOME OF THE BELOW ARE HANDLOADS, BUT IT WILL SHOOT THE FACTORY'S JUST AS WELL
HANDLOAD PICTURE
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243 FACTORY 55 GRNS
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243 FACTORY NOSSLER
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Check this thread out also!
http://savageshooters.com/SavageForu...topicseen.html
Not in the bullet grain you stated..and apparently CERTAINLY out of the realm for deer according to the leading magazine stated earlier...BUT I will be huntin with my .243 using Barnes TSX 85grain and 38.7 grains of RL15 with Remington primers.
Course on the flip side of that..I have some pretty impressive pics out of my (non) savage ML using Harvester 300gr PT GOLD with Blackhorn 209 and CCI 209M primers...not sure how to load them here yet but I (my T/C Encore) puts 4 shots in less than an inch at 100...yea I'm proud ;D
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As you can see got my pics loaded. Hope I didnt step on toes posting my T/C !Quote:
Originally Posted by shortbolt
BTW...Those .243 loads I mentioned above are grouping slightly less than an inch at 100 using a 2.5-8 VIII.
But in that super thin barrel...I gotta let it cool after every shot to get those groups
I wonder if anyone from American Hunter would care to stand downrange and unequivocally prove the 243 is not lethal :P
I'll take odds on that they wont volunteer for thatQuote:
Originally Posted by jo191145
My Model 12 VLP loves 105 Grn A-Max in front of 37.5 grns of H4350. Lapua Brass, CCI 250, with .007 Jump. The 300 yd Whitetail last weekend and the 175 yd Pronghorn 2 weeks before both dropped in their tracks.
It wasn't American Hunter, it was Petersen's Hunting. The author was Skip Knowles. If you read the list you'll realize he kicked a real hornet's nest.
Intentionally.
243 not lethal???? (6mm)
All my favorite guns are 6mm! In some cases I want my 22-250! But overall, the 243 (6mm) will take just about anthing!
It's supposed to be funny. I don't know. I haven't read the article.
I shoot 41.5 grains of H380 with 90 grain Nosler BT and CCI bench rest primers 2.723 OAL and dropped a deer in its tracks at 370 yards last week it was beautiful. I love my .243...
Did they give a reason? I shot my 1st deer with my dad's .243. I'd say it's a very versitle round, for anything from target shooting, to varmints, to deer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Predator1
As I understand it, having only read secondhand reports of the article, the reason is that the .243 is merely adequate for the task. Definitely deadly but not as authoritatively lethal as, say, a .270. The whole article was a joke intended to generate discussion and even mentions discussing it on the magazine's website. Again, this is all based on secondhand knowledge I have acquired about the article, not from reading it myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by racinready300ex
This past Saturday I used a handload that was very effective. It is 95gr Nosler BT in 243win over 37 gr. RL15. Shot was 165-175 yds. Dropped her on the spot.
...First time I tried the 85gr Sie. HPBT Gamekings this year out of the old winny 670 over 42.5grs of H4350..Needless to say it rolled a good sized buck over pretty easy...A few years back it knocked this bad boy over with 100 grainers...Weighed 192lbs dressed out... :o...
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There are 6 6mm guns/barrels(6br,15" 243 Striker,6/ 284, and three other 243s) in the safe that are very accurate.
If I had to use the 243 it would be with R22 and a 105Amax or the 95 grain Nosler Partition but there are better rounds in the safe like the 6.5x55,6.5/284,7Mag and 30-06 to hunt deer with. Sure the 243 will work (so would a 22lr for that matter-if legal) but prefer the added cushon of error that the bigger rounds deliver in my less than perfect world.
...I always say if you don't have a clean shot, why take a bad 1...1-shot, 1-deer...Quote:
Originally Posted by CJ in WY
...I always say if you don't have a clean shot, why take a bad 1...1-shot, 1-deer...
Some good reasoning in your statement for sure. Not talking about a bad shot just those times when Murphy showes up.....Hunt long/hard enough and he will!
The last load I workedup for a .243 was for a Rem 742-Guess how old I am. Gun had a documented 800 rds thru it, I got almost all the bras with the rifle. It was accurate, I witnessed the owner shoot a flushing wood cock with it! (a young, son of a trapper, AL hunter who grew up in the woods).
100 gr. bullets didn't please me-a crow shooter w/ aRem 700 HB Varmint rifle that has taken crows past 400 yds w/ my loads. After some load/bullet experimentation- Sierra 85gr HPBTs loaded over IMR 4064/Imr4350(per Sierra Manual Copyright 1971) sparked by CCI BR-4 primers got me to sub-moa groups off a good sandbag rest regularly. Granted AL deer are not real big, but I never had to track one either!
For-racinready300ex-just because some 2nd rate gun rags tries to make an issue to spark discussion doesn't mean it will end like you suggested- Here in AL ANY .22 Centerfire or above is legal ! I can't tell you how many deer I've taken with .222 Rem., .223. .22-250, .220 Swift, and don't piss your pants- a.221 Fireball XP-100 handgun! And they didn't run away! Last deer I tracked was doe shot by a female friend's boyfriend using a .300 Weatherby Mag w/ 180 Rem bullets, we found it in a creek almost 75 yds from the greenfield after we loaded the doe I shot in the truck in the tracks she was standing in shot with a .222 50gr. Hornady Vmax Moly!
Tammons, would you mind sharing the powder charge you are using? I promiss to start 5% below you charge if I do decide to try. I only clocked 3050 using barnes 80 gr. TTSX and h4350 from my Rem Model 7. I have a can of Rel 17 laying around I'd like to put to good use.Quote:
Originally Posted by tammons
Thanks!
I would back off 10% for a starting load. Totally different rifle.
I backed off to 45 gr of RL17 for my regular load and running about 3300.
The max load listed on the barnes site is 45.5 gr at 3470.
Thats 92% fill.
You could probably push it more in the winter
TechHunter, let us know how the load (RL17) works out for you!
The Doe I shot over Thanksgiving weekend with a .243 at 340yrd was very dead after 20yrds skip, hoop, and flop. Complete pass thru and chest cavity was jello.
On RL17 I have read people say its not temperature sensitive, but that is not what I have found.
This summer I was testing my normal 308/208 amax load of48.5 gr and I got a 40-50 fps jump.
It was hot though. The shells were not in the sun.
I tested loads up yo 49.5 gr in 85 DF weather and anything over 48.5 gave me brass flow.
Since I chopped my barrel 3" to 19" I bumped up a charge for the winter to 48.8 and am getting
no brass flow, although the primers are pretty flat.
That is a compressed load so maybe that has something to do with the temp sensitivity.
For 243 and 80 gr TTSX bullets, in a bolt action I would run some test loads up to maybe 46-46.5 grains.