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Hi I am new to this but have a question. The model 10 BA stealth in 6.5 creedmoor came with a muzzle brake but no nut ring thingy to keep it straight. I have same model in .338 and I see the ring nut behind the brake.
I contacted savage via online support and no response. Instead I would like to simply buy the nut and be done with it even though they owe me one. Any idea actual name of part and if someone could post a link to buy that would be a tremendous help. Thank you and happy shooting!!!
I think you are referring to the anti-crush washerQuote:
Originally Posted by Adkhunter
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That might be it. I just know on the 338 lapua it with the nut or washer it tightens up and lines up perfectlyQuote:
Originally Posted by Ted_Feasel
If it goes over the muzzle threads and the muzzle break/flash hider tightens against it then it's the anti crush washer... let me see if I can get a close up of one of my rifle barrels.. right there above my thumbnail.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...77f4ff48b3.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Adkhunter
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You can order them, they are $2-4... they have a almost conical shape to them like, the outside of the spherical shape goes towards the barrelQuote:
Originally Posted by Ted_Feasel
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Hi I took a pic. On the left is 338 the right is 6.5 with missing washer
yes it has a conical shape to it. Any idea where I buy? I did a gun parts list search with model. Maybe I am oversearching with too many words?
ok don’t know how to post photo it’s on my phone no option for iPhone
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Originally Posted by Adkhunter
https://www.joeboboutfitters.com/Cru...washer-308.htmQuote:
Originally Posted by Adkhunter
That's probably the same but just do a search for anti crush washer 6.5CM
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I believe 6.5cm and 308 usually have same thread size on muzzle, not always... may not hurt to check with savage and asked them muzzle thread size.. that's really what most important is to get washer that slips snugly over correct thread size but If I remember correctly the cm I build and ar10 308 both used identical anti crush washers.. i didnt use breaks but used flash hides but the washer is the sameQuote:
Originally Posted by Ted_Feasel
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I believe primary arms sells them, palmeto, alot of places do, should have any trouble finding what you needQuote:
Originally Posted by Adkhunter
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That link I sent you says it fits 6.5 cm alsoQuote:
Originally Posted by Ted_Feasel
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Ted thank you I will check that site out.
Appreciate the help!!
No problem, hope it helps:) here is another sight that sell breaks, washers etc... didnt look it over very well but I think it has what you may be looking for as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adkhunter
https://picclick.com/All-Steel-5-8x2...549230898.html
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Awesome thank you again Ted!
Yes, 5/8-24 is what you want for 6.5mm. I have a bunch of them. If you PM me, I can drop one in an envelope for you.
No problem, happy to assist[emoji16]Quote:
Originally Posted by Adkhunter
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Awesome:) that's even a better deal for him[emoji16]Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Hoback
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If looks are not a problem, a jam nut is another solution. A person can clock the brake exactly where you want it (fine tune if necessary). Also help immensely during removal when cleaning.
You only use the brake tool and an open end wrench to remove while the rifle is only just snug in the gun vise.
No need to use a new crush washer when clocking is off.
I only have two Savages with brakes but removing them and installing them is easier than using shims or crush washers.
Found them quick on Amazon under 5/8-24 jam nuts. They are if I remember right about .170 thick. And only cost about $5 each with shipping.
My .02,
Randy
Not sure I understand what an "anti-crush" washer does. Do you mean a crush washer?
Maybe lol... I could have sworn when I ordered the ones for my rifles they called them anti-crush... maybe notQuote:
Originally Posted by wbm
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Actually your right it is just crush washer.. just went to the site I ordered it from and looked at past orders and it says crushQuote:
Originally Posted by wbm
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Last rifle I needed a washer for I was looking and I stumbled on a what was called. a "double crush" washer. Tried one. Worked really well.
Thanks Dave I appreciate the friendly offerQuote:
Originally Posted by Dave Hoback
Ordered one. if it’s the wrong one I might take you up on that offer!
Thank you!
Good Job Dave!!!
Ok got the crush washer. It won’t line up properly. Perhaps a threaded one so I can back tighten it so the break is lined up perfectly?
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Possibly got inside diameter to big? The inside diameter should be pretty close to outside diameter of barrel threads and yes, some do just get proper threaded size nut and use as a jam nutQuote:
Originally Posted by Adkhunter
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Can you post a picture?? The crush washer is designed so you can crush it down (tighten) to where your break/hider etc line the way you need/likeQuote:
Originally Posted by Adkhunter
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Like in the picture I posted of my hider, when the hider seated it was still about 1/8th turn from being lined up perfectly but as you torque down thAt washer will flatten so you can get it tightened where it needs to beQuote:
Originally Posted by Adkhunter
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+1 on Ted's comment. Once you make contact continue to tighten until clocking is reached. This should not take an over-abundance of torque. If it seems like too much torque then it probably is not what you need. One of my brakes came with a shim kit for proper clocking. To me they were a PITA that's why I went to jam nuts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ted_Feasel
I may try a jam nut one of these times. I have vice blocks for uppers, lowers, barrels but I could definitely see how a jam nut could be easier, especially if you didnt have vices... thank you for the +1 [emoji3]Quote:
Originally Posted by mnbogboy2
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Your welcome
Adkhunter, just wondering if you got it sorted out? You mentioned the brake not lining up. As stated, once the brake is snug against the washer, you must continue to tighten to correctly clock the brake. Again as said, this ultimately “crushes” the washer(this is why it is called a CRUSH washer). This action is what provides the force necessary to keep the brake from loosening.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adkhunter
What we all failed to mention was the force required to crush the washer enough for the brake to be clocked correctly. A barrel Vice makes this easy. Being that most people do not own a barrel vice, you can make a crude version that is actually very effective. Get a piece of 2x4 approx. 4” long and drill a hole slightly smaller than the diameter of your rifle’s barrel, in the center. Then cut the 2x4 in half and place one piece on each side of the barrel. Now clamp the whole setup in a bench vice within a few inches from the muzzle. Tighten the vice enough so the barrel will not spin in the 2x4 halves while you continue to tighten the brake to the desired position.
A little “Basement Gunsmithing” for you.
That’s a great idea. Thank you!
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