Wood is good

I have an American Classic Model 14 that I would like to swap the factory sporter barrel for a varmint barrel. I'm really fond of the warm look that wood and blued steel manage, and have something like the old USMC M40s in mind. I've been trying to find a walnut stock that I can use for the varmint barrel but without success. I'd be willing to inlet the rifle's current stock, but I suspect that I'd be removing to much wood and would be left with a goofy looking stock. Also, I doubt that sanding the black plastic tip will work out well. Has anyone tried this, and if so do you have pictures and/or advice? Better yet, does anyone know of a walnut stock, MC would be best, that can manage a heavier barrel?

Member classifieds there is an awesome 14 stock a member re-worked for a varmit profile. Worth the membership just for the one item.

I'm pretty sure I've seen pictures of heavy barrel rifles on the Boyds Prairie Hunter stocks. You may look at those.

I did install a varmet barrel on a 110 and sanded the barrel channel to accept the new barrel. It looks normal but it wasn't an American Classic stock. The only downside would be you can never go back to a sportier barrel, then it would look goofy.

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Originally Posted by sixonetonoffun

Member classifieds there is an awesome 14 stock a member re-worked for a varmit profile. Worth the membership just for the one item.

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I've been holding out on re-upping my membership. You sold me.

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Originally Posted by olddav

I did install a varmet barrel on a 110 and sanded the barrel channel to accept the new barrel. It looks normal but it wasn't an American Classic stock. The only downside would be you can never go back to a sportier barrel, then it would look goofy.

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I was at the LGS this afternoon looking at the Trophy Hunter and admiring the stock. Seems very similar to the American Classic in shape, though without the black plastic tip, I've read they're not walnut. I've found Numrich to carry the Model 14 with the Monte Carlo stock, for a fair price. But again, I'm concerned about the appearance after hogging out so much wood and the affect of sanding plastic. I'd love to see a pic of your work.

Here you are.
http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/...mitbarrel2.jpg
http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/...mitbarrel1.jpg

That really did come out nicely.

As you can see from the Savage 14 AC stock I have in the classified's, you can open up the barrel channel to accept a light varmint to varmint contour barrel. Savage uses a transparent base stain under the top coat to make the walnut finish consistent on each factory stock. My experience is once you sand through this finish to the bare wood, it is impossible to rematch the factory finish. I had to strip off the finish on the whole stock and refinish again from bare wood. I used the dirty sanding method and Tru-Oil gunstock finish. A Tru-Oil finish is easier to repair if you scratch or ding up the stock in the field. Raise dents with a hot iron and wet rag and sand lightly. Then touch up with several coats of Tru-Oil. Be careful and don't get paint stripper on the plastic tip, because it will melt. Just sand to fit. I use Danish tung oil to waterproof the checkering. You don't want to fill the checkering with finish.

Thanks for the advice and help Gents.

I am in the process of doing almost the exact same thing...I have a Savage 110FP .308 barrel that I am cutting down to 17.5" and threading 5/8 x 24 tpi. I was stumbling on the stock...went to GUN PARTS CORP -NUMRICH and bought a semi finished inletted walnut stock for a LA...they have them for LA/SA LEFT AND RIGHT for $29 + $8.50 shipping...NICE STOCK... Any way I took the 24"heavy barrel and applied double sided carpet tape along its length...then a 20" strip of 60 grit 1" wide..I then used it to open up the barrel channel...working pretty good so far...also removing the cheek pad...not the raised comb...hoping I get a product that o can oil vs paint as o love wood and this nice walnut...also sending it to CDI for inletting and DBM...

Thanks CAPTBEACH, you made up my mind for me. $33.15 total with the promo code:2756. I'm hoping the project will keep me from buying more guns for awhile. The longer the project, the less I'll buy. Right?

Yes wood is good.;)

I've done one with a light varmint barrel much like jpdown has described. I stripped the stock, sanded out the barrel channel to fit on each side, and then refinished the stock with a combination of tru oil and armor all. I think you would be just fine with going full varmint weight as long as you don't plan on going back to a sporter.

http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/o...3/IMG_4518.jpg

YES...wood is good...not too shabby for a $29 stock...

A few minutes on the belt sander and the awful cheek pad is gone forever...few more minutes, about an hour total and its is 98% gone and blended...

http://rs1144.pbsrc.com/albums/o496/...ea.jpg~320x480

Right hand LA Walnut and some nice walnut too at that...

http://rs1144.pbsrc.com/albums/o496/...e7.jpg~320x480

Anyone know what DBM or inletting this is for?

http://rs1144.pbsrc.com/albums/o496/...43.jpg~320x480

You can just make out the barest hint of the cheek pad...the dark spot is not a high or low spot its in the wood grain, the gentle curve is the faint out line I'll work on tomorrow...

http://rs1144.pbsrc.com/albums/o496/...53.jpg~320x480

Looks great, is that what what the 308 bbl is going in
need updates

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Looks great, is that what what the 308 bbl is going in
need updates

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Yup...I'm keeping your barrel for this one...Son In law will have to wait LOL...
Build will probably turn out to be along these lines...I'm looking to build an M40ish stocked, no nonsense deer rifle, short and handy, but capable of making a long shot across a bean field, a trip out west or a trip to New Zealand

bold indicates I have these parts in hand

Flat Back 110 LA I want to be able to load some 308 heavies a little long into the lands, might use a AICS 300WM/30-06 mag and bend/tune the feed lips
Large handle bolt knob
17.5" heavy Barrel (DryBeans 24" cut and threaded)
EGW one piece base with Burris X-Treme low rings
Sav 1 trigger tuned to able 2 lbs
SS Recoil Lug
CDI DBM running a 5 round mag
I haven't settled on a scope yet but I have 3 SWFA's right now and am really happy with them but want variable power to hunt with so it might be a Weaver Tactical 4 x 20 x 50
Savage Walnut LA Stock
Flush cups (3) so I can run one of my AR slings
Action and recoil lug glass bedded
Stock will be oil finshed

When I started sanding on the stock I started getting excited...its a really nice piece on wood...glad I bought it

Yes. The wood is good. Very good.

I have not decided yet on oil finish but I've got a trick up my sleeve that will stain that walnut gun metal grey and once oiled will let the grain and figuring shine...be a nice change of pace from reds and Brown's and would really compliment the flat black finish the metals getting...just vinegar and steel wool...

Hey CAPT, keep me/us posted. Your project sounds remarkably similar to mine, less the LA and sub 18" barrel. I'm hoping the sanding will take some time so I can work up the strength to stretch my wallet wide enough to shake out an SWFA SS 5-20 or Razor.

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Thanks CAPTBEACH, you made up my mind for me. $33.15 total with the promo code:2756. I'm hoping the project will keep me from buying more guns for awhile. The longer the project, the less I'll buy. Right?

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Hey can you post a pic of that stock for me...I need a reference point for the work I'm doing to mine...a coouple of shots would be nice, of the cheeck piece, comb ext...

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Hey can you post a pic of that stock for me...I need a reference point for the work I'm doing to mine...a coouple of shots would be nice, of the cheeck piece, comb ext...

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I'll try to snap some this afternoon. I committed a world of sanding to it before I realized that it must be a long action. It won't fit my short action at all.

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Originally Posted by Willy Pete

I'll try to snap some this afternoon. I committed a world of sanding to it before I realized that it must be a long action. It won't fit my short action at all.

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If they sent you a LA..contact them...I bet they send you a short free...also...measure the action screw spacing...it should be a smidge over 5" for a LA...4.4"or 4.27 for a short...

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/...10002small.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/...10001small.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/...10003small.jpg
If you want something more specific, pm me.

In this picture the recoil lug is in the recoil lug channel, but you can clearly see that the bolt handle does not line up with its channel. Also, the inletting for the barrel nut is off.
http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/...10007small.jpg

Here you can see how far off center the recoil lug channel is. Additionally, I think it is way too far forward.
http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/...10010small.jpg

The bolt hole spacing is about 4.40" as should be. It is otherwise a beautiful piece of wood and would have made a terrific stock.

Looks great.

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http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/...10002small.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/...10001small.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/...10003small.jpg
If you want something more specific, pm me.

In this picture the recoil lug is in the recoil lug channel, but you can clearly see that the bolt handle does not line up with its channel. Also, the inletting for the barrel nut is off.
http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/...10007small.jpg

Here you can see how far off center the recoil lug channel is. Additionally, I think it is way too far forward.
http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/...10010small.jpg

The bolt hole spacing is about 4.40" as should be. It is otherwise a beautiful piece of wood and would have made a terrific stock.

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Looks like you could grind the barrel lug channel a bit and the rest would fall into place. It is a nice piece of wood. Bedding would take up any over grinding ect..

The tang looks to be too far forward too...if it was me I'd take the recoil lug off and set the action into the stock...do the screw holes line up and does the bolt handle then slide into its notch or is it still forward?...is so the recoil lug can be ground back and then glass bedded...if the screw spacing is off it might be a 4.27" SA stock instead of a 4.4"...only an 1/8th of an inch or so of difference but enough...

I have to remove the barrel, checking it without the recoil lug makes good sense. The bolt spacing, is very close to 4.40", maybe a bit long, but even then, only by a smidgen. I checked it with a caliper early on, thinking it might have been a long action. I'm guessing the channel was inlaid by a new guy, on a Monday, hung-over.

Thought I'd update the wood is good thread...yes..wood is very good...

Wet and looking good...stock will be really nice with a dark oil finish..
http://www.warriortalk.com/attachmen...1&d=1407853210

Action being fitted...
http://www.warriortalk.com/attachmen...1&d=1407853309

Opened up barrel channel to take the varmint 16.5" barrel...
http://www.warriortalk.com/attachmen...1&d=1407853254

A tip...when grinding a rubber "grind to fit" recoil pad...buy a 5lb block of dry ice, bust it up into little pieces adn snuggle the recoil pad into it and freeze it solid...grind till it starts to warm up and get soft...freeze again...repeat until done...

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I have to remove the barrel, checking it without the recoil lug makes good sense. The bolt spacing, is very close to 4.40", maybe a bit long, but even then, only by a smidgen. I checked it with a caliper early on, thinking it might have been a long action. I'm guessing the channel was inlaid by a new guy, on a Monday, hung-over.

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If that does not work I would send it back...call Numrinch, explain the problem adn you get a fluke...that recoil lug channel is way out of spec as is that bolt handle cut...looks like a SA bolt handle cut on a LA inlet

I finally determined the problem with the wood stock I received from Numrich. While it was designed to fit a Savage 110 short action, it was a short run of Savage 110s built for a rebranded rifle, the Westernfield 710. The screw spacing is 4.25" and some of the other inletting was off. Anyone need a wood stock for a Westernfield 710?

I would send it back...the one I have is great

Captbeach do you remember what part number you ordered from numrich? Did it happen to be 1223500? I'm wanting to get myself another project but I want blind mag staggered feed and I see yours is inletted for dbm. Thanks