Boyd's Prairie Hunter stocks anyone have these and can I see them on you setup ?
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Boyd's Prairie Hunter stocks anyone have these and can I see them on you setup ?
The Prairie Hunter and or the classic for My Hog Hunter are what I am looking towards and wanted to know if they will fit the medium contour threaded barrel without work.
you're gonna have to open them up a bit. Not a big deal, though. As I said in the other post, use sand paper and a dowel. Just be sure to seal them when done.
When ordering, if it offers one for a "Varmint" barrel or "varmint Contour" you'll be good to go. The HH is slightly smaller than that.
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Originally Posted by foxx
Thank you
I called Boyd's to ask about a HH stock. They are not making them 'til they receive enough requests. He suggested that you go to Boyds website....on the left side there is a "Product Request Form". Fill it out and leave a message in the box. Boyds did say that they have received a few requests........but MORE is GOOD!!
I'll put in a request, but it's really no big deal if they do or don't. Opening the channel up is nothing, really.
I put in a request also
Thanks for the heads up
This is a question for foxx.
How do you know this prairie hunter stock will fit the action? To me the barrel channel is an easy no-brainer. I've restocked rifles made from a walnut 2x10. Getting older now and would rather shoot than build another stock. Which prairie stock would you order? I did not see one for a short action...most were for mod. 111.
I did fail to mention that when I spoke to Boyds they said it would be Aug. or Sept. before they would even look into building one and no guarantee that they would. BUT if they rec'd many requests that could change.
buggy:
I am sorry, I assumed too much, maybe.
The stock MUST match the ACTION and screw spacing. The stocks are big enough to allow the opening up for the Hog Hunter barrels Somewhere I read on their site that they are NOT big enough to allow for VARMINT or bigger. I have seen on here, though, someone who did mount a varmint stock on a thumbhole, I think.
I have Tacitcools and Classics. There seems to be plenty of stock for the Hog Hunter in the Classic, I assume the same is true for the Prairie Hunter. Maybe need to compare their dimensions listed on the site to be certain.
The Hog Hunter is, in generic terms:
Model 11, Top bolt release, Center feed Blind Mag with Heavy Sporter Barrel. (Not certain this accurately describes the barrel, though)
Edit: I checked the website... They DO make a Prairie hunter for that configuration. As long as the stock is fat enough in the forearm (I am 99% certain it is), it will work fine after opening the barrel channel.
here's a link: http://www.boydsgunstocks.com/produc...54744&cat=1222
foxx
when you restocked your HH did you notice a change in the group size of your rifle, considering tupperware stock compared to a rock solid laminated one?
Buggy, I never even shot it in the original stock. My plan from the beginning was to put it in a Tacticool and add DBM.
I think the whole issue with the Tupperware stocks is APPARENTLY overplayed. It isn't intentional, I am sure. We are just on a site that attracts those who like customizing, altering and making "shooters", as opposed to ordinary hunting rifles. I think they are fine for deer hunting at reasonable distance (inside 300 yards, maybe?). I am 100% CERTAIN they will work well for shooting hogs on the run within 50 yds. The real problem comes up when using a bipod, especially with heavy barrels. The bipod is attached on the front swivel stud and therefore there is a lot of torque applied to the stock there and forces the stock to touch the barrel. Even then, that is no big deal at short range, but it makes a big difference at long range.
Edit: "APPARENTLY"(?) overplayed
that's not the right word, but I can't say what I mean right now. :)
When you open up the stock how is this done and how much room does the barrel need?
Wrap a wooden dowel or socket wrench socket with sand paper and "go at it". Keep sanding until the barrel has free clearance all around it from the recoil lug to the end.
There are other ways, tools for this, as long as you have clearance enough to run a dollar bill (or more) between the stock and barrel when done, you are good. Then seal it with Birchwood Casey Stock seal or something similar so as to protect the stock from the elements and oils, etc.
Thank you foxx
So if I order this as described in other thread
The short action center-feed top bolt release steel DBM frame is Savage part number 106238.
Use your factory blind magazine well and follower with a steel magazine floor plate (Savage part number 106245) to assemble a detachable magazine that fits in the steel top bolt release DBM.
Order the Boyds stock with top bolt release and DBM for short action center feed, I should have everything I need?
Assuming those part numbers are right, that's all you will need.
If you stay with blind mag, you don't need the 2 savage parts.
I know I want to go to the DBM
Thanks a lot foxx you have truly been a great help.
foxx !!!
Thank you for making this rifle stock issue so much easier to understand. Your explanations have been very helpful. I will be ordering a Prairie Hunter next week.
I have the barrel channel rasp handy from other stock projects, but hopefully sandpaper and a dowel will do fine. By the way, did you have to buy different screws?
Thanks again !!
buggybuilder
You're welcome.
Screws? I don't remember. I have done a few Tacticools, 2 Thumbholes and a Classic. I know I needed screws for some of them, and ordered them a few times, don't know which. I have a few different projects going at the same time and parts are often laying all over the place and they get swapped-out and mixed up. Half the time I end up just grabbing what fits and if its too long I grind them down. I would say order them. But you can always get longer ones at the hardware store and cut/grind to length.
Hey foxx !!!!
Rec'd my stock from Boyds on friday evening (about 6pm) and had it in the barreled action about 10 pm. I still have to fit the trigger guard in soon.
Thanks again for all the information and help!
buggybuilder
What stock?
Pictures ?
I bought a Prairie Hunter in pepper color. Savage Mod. 11 top bolt release, blind magazine.
Sorry, incapable of pics at the present time.
@ BuggyBuilder.. Did you have to do work to make it fit your HOG HUNTER (308)?? Or did it drop in??
Just got my HH today and I can see why the std factory stock stinks.. very twisty in the hand..
I just measured my HH (308) and got these numbers.. .748" (19.01mm) at muzzle (just behind the thread protector) and 1.034" (26.33mm) just in front of the barrel nut.
Using Boyds' 9" for the 'B' point I get .903" a little tight for 3/4" (0.875").. I did get .873" for barrel diameter (22.17mm) at the end of the stock which is just under the 3/4".
ywhic
Yes the HH stocks are twisty. My HH is a .223. If you get a Boyds stock, look at their diagram with action screw demensions. This is the most important because you can always make the barrel fit. I took me about 3 hrs. with the appropriate size socket and 100 grit paper and patience to free float all the way to the action. Kind of fun!!
If we are talking about a "Boyds" stock, you will have plenty of material to open up the barrel channel. Most of the area under the barrel has already been hogged out at the factory, so you only have to deal with making the channel wider. The last 4" or so of the stock is where you must sand out the bottom and sides. PATIENCE !!!
The trigger guard must also be tweaked and I have not had the time to do that yet. Hope this helps. I think you feel a little leary about doing this...just as I did. But I'd do it again in a heartbeat.
Eager to see everyone's work when done.
buggy
what type of tweaking does the trigger guard need ?
The guard is too big for the slot in the stock. I will sand a little bit on the plastic trigger guard rather than the stock. Only need to take off about .030"
That's good to know and thank you
Would like to see pictures when your done.
Got the barrel chamber opened up and fit today, the only problems are with the bolts-screws that hold the stock to the barrel. I put a factory DBM in the stock, the front trigger guard screw is to short and the DBM screw by the Mag release is to long. Where can I find screws for these?
Thanks
Boyds sells them fairly cheap, but you can get the same thing at a hardware store and simply cut them a bit long, then grind or file to length. If the front one is too long, just grind it to length.Quote:
Originally Posted by campdude
If you go back to Boyds and look on that particular stocks' page you will see they note this and sell longer screws.. :( sorry..
Thanks foxx and ywhic no apology needed something I over looked and should have paid more attention.
I put the rear dbm bolt on the grinder to get it to the correct length and then took the trigger guard and ground just enough off it so that bolt would fit.
Thanks for the help guys
Finished up and just waiting on my 10 roung mag from Dark Eagle Customs.
Thanks to all that helped me
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