Bought a Shilen select match in 260AI. For those of you that have bought Shilen barrels are yours as poorly engraved as mine? No where on it does it say Shilen. Did I get screwed?
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Bought a Shilen select match in 260AI. For those of you that have bought Shilen barrels are yours as poorly engraved as mine? No where on it does it say Shilen. Did I get screwed?
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S/M Shilen Match Select Match
Where did you buy it ?
Mine came right from Shilen marked like that.
Northland Shooters for mine
Just installed one in 30-06. It was marked like the one you showed. It came from Northland also. I think the S7 is the Shilen tip-off.
My 243 barrel looks like that, just hand engraved.
S/M: Shilen (Select?) Match
260AI
S7: Savage Varmint contour
8T: 1-8 twist
Yeah it ain't pretty engraving, but ya can't see it when its installed either...
I have a Shilen CM barrel. No markings other than caliber that I can recall. Paid extra for hand lapping when ordered through a gunsmith but now that I own a Borescope I doubt that it was lapped. Too many reamer marks. It's a 22-250 and it shoots in the .400's on a Ruger 77.
Thanks for the replys. Having a very hard time getting it to shoot decent. Took it apart to inspect it and though the engraving looked a little odd. The chamber is very rough looking in the neck area. Going to run a reamer in a little deeper to clean it up and go from there.
Have a Rock Creek I just picked that the engraving was even more scribbled than that. Shot the first three shots out of it at .5" and the best in the high .2's. I care less about the engraving as I do about the end result.
Have you ever used an engraving pen on the end of a piece of 1.062 roundstock?
Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by stangfish
They need one of the Cnc laser engravers!
I have changed a lot of barrels. Most don't have the manufacture's name on the barrel. I don't have the answer, but have seen many with little to no information.
JMO, Dennis
If the chamber has chatter marks from the reamer, I would call Wade Hull and send it back to let them fix. I am confident they will. If you do chamber work on top of their work, they get off the hook. Just my 2 cents, TimQuote:
Originally Posted by blanchard83
I am sure that they will also. I have the tools and would rather just do it myself because of the time saved and hassle of shipping back and forth.
Perhaps a bit off topic, but the CBI barrel I just got as the substitute for the Shilen I ordered in April (which never got closer to shipping) has very nice roll stamping around the circumference that provides the manufacturer, chambering and twist info. Given how easy it is for a precision shop to make a roll stamp machine, I now find it rather perplexing why a shop like shilen would not do this in the first place.
The OE barrels are different in that they are roll stamped in the axial direction which is more complicated, especially when all the barrel contours are taken into account.. Possibly it is done to the barreled action, since they place the text in a precise location relative to the stock.
Thinking out load to West. If I was a custom gun maker or smith I might want my name on the barrel or the chambering marked as well , possibly even the lack of knowing where the barrel will be indexed keeps any marks from being on the barrel. If the customer or purchaser of the rifle questions the maker, there it is right on the breach. I have a custom with the words "SHILEN" axially right on the left side of the barrel, looks to be acid etched.
Stang, if CBI does it just right, they could put the roll stamp where the nut would cover it when installed. But there would be no doubt where the barrel came from. I see no good coming from hiding the identity of the barrel maker. That way, the seller could at any point claim it was made by "insert name of barrel house" and no-one would know any better. I would rather be sure of who the barrel maker really was.
I agree. I do think that the roll stamp is not optimum as it produces stresses and minor bore deviations. Am I good enough to know the difference? Nope.
You never did state where you bought it from, did you get it directly from Shilen, or a gunsmith or some place else?
If you are good at slugging bores, you can feel every letter in a roll stamp, at least I can.Quote:
Originally Posted by stangfish
Laser engraving I think would be the solution.
I've heard its like reading in brail for the guys who know the feel.Quote:
Originally Posted by sharpshooter
This barrel, like all the others was ordered through Jim at NSS in April 2013.
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Originally Posted by sinman
This is true even when the bar is roll stamped prior to drilling, reaming and lapping ? It would sure make those blanks easier to track through the process if you know what they are...
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Originally Posted by sharpshooter
Why would you rollmark a blank before it's machined? One of the last process's is turning the o.d. to the customers contour. The un-turned blanked are usually stamped on the breech end with all the critical information after they are drilled,reamed and rifled, and only after they pass quality control. They have to make that far before they can be turned and chambered. Up to that point, they are labeled as a bore size and twist rate.
Savage uses a color coding system on the end of the billets, until they are turned and threaded. Once the painted end is cut off, they are stamped with a letter code. I can tell you that purple is for .270 Win.
sure may I suggest that u buy one and send one to shilen as a Christmas present pls.Quote:
Originally Posted by missed
The sight of those scribbled engraving might not settle well with some and we will appreciate your donation ;-)
That's approximately what my Shilen barrels look like. They both shoot bughole groups.
I assume it indicates that they spend more time getting the barrel right than on dressing up the markings nobody will see.
Until my barrels don't shoot, I'm not really much concerned with how they're marked.
JS
Bought it from northlandQuote:
Originally Posted by sinman
That's exactly the reason I asked about the engraving. I have put about 300 rounds through it trying to get it to shoot consistently under moa. I have given up on the 260ai and have rechambered it to 6.5 creedmoor.Quote:
Originally Posted by jerry shaw
Shilen does an excellent job of supporting their barrels in the field if there are issues with it not shooting properly. If you have an issue with a Shilen barrel you should contact your seller or Shilen directly and advise them that you have a concern. Once you take a barrel to a gunsmith or do the tweaking yourself you can easily void the warranty.
This policy goes for every barrel maker that I am aware of. If their in house workmanship has caused the barrel to not work properly they want to see what is wrong before anyone starts tweaking their barrel. The barrel may or may not be the problem and having someone adjust, internally or externally, their barrel can easily obscure the original issues, if any. The barrel maker can not be responsible for the performance of a barrel that is modified outside of their shop. I am talking about a pre-fit barrel and not a barrel that was purchased as a blank and finished by a qualified gunsmith. Issues with a custom barrel from a gunsmith should be addressed back to the gunsmith that did your work.
Jim Briggs
NSS
I just assumed that after the barrel was installed, there was no warranty. Either way I have no warranty now because I rechambered it. That fixed the accuracy problem. Now easily shoots under 1/2 moa.
I just had a question about the engraving and that question has been answered.
Thanks everyone who replied.