Building a range queen help

Hey y'all, I have a couple questions. I am in the process of getting prices of the range queen/shut up the loud idiot rifle that I am going to to build soon. I am aiming for it to be a .25-06 with a 28" or 30" bull barrel. Savage action 18182(left port, right bolt, single shot). Tactical stock of some description. Basically I want a rifle that'll make the 660 yard shot in my buddy's back yard, but I'm also not afraid to let it get a little scratched/dirty. I tough chic that I can clean up and make look pretty if I want to. So, having said that,

1. Best place to get the savage action 18182?
2. Does anyone make a 30" bull barrel for less than $400?
3. Where can I get a rough cut stock that I finish myself?
4. Are there any good donor guns to start with?
5. Any other suggestions?

1. NSS check the vendor classifieds

2. NSS again maybe

3. Boyds

4. Any savage/stephens action IMO

5. I can't think of anything now, I dont have any experience with 25-06 there may be some other calibers that might be a bit more of the extreme target breeding like the 6BR, 6.5 Norma, 6.5 creedmore, 260,....Im just a 22-250 and 308 shooter anyway.

Aight, cool. Thank you

Stupid question. What does NSS stand for?

North land shooter supply Jim is awesome to do business with.

Thank you

You're welcome, his info is in the vendor classifieds

all the 30" barrel will do is add weight. a 26" would be plenty for that cartridge.
as for your choice of cartridge consider the 6.5x06 as opposed to the 25.
there is a much better selection of bullets in 6.5.

Aight, I'll do it. Thanks

For 660 yards off the bench there are a number of rounds that will eat a 25-06's lunch, day in day out. If you want to build a 25-06 for the sake of building one than more power to you, but do you have your heart set on that round?

Do you have the action referenced?

Glass?

Is this specifically a safe queen/bench gun? Will you be doing any varminting, hunting, "tactical" style shooting from bags, bipods, improvised rests, unknown distances?

Are you set on a short action, single shot or may you want the option of a repeater down the road?

Weight limits?

It sounds like a hell of a project and a blast to build/shoot- help us narrow down what you're looking to do.

FWIW here's a PTA with a 30" Criterion in a Stockade Prairie Dog/Tactical:

http://i877.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps484b3d03.jpg

I am open to rounds. What are you referring to? As far as a safe/bench queen, yes. No hunting of any discription unless while shooting it something tastey looking walks out in front of me. No intentions of hunting with it, so weight is not an issue. I plan on putting a bi-pod on it and shooting from either a table or the ground. As far as the short action, yes, I am set on one shot with no option for a repeater later down the road. I have an edge chambered in .30-06 that is my hunting rifle that I make double as my range queen. I have made this 660yd shot with it many times and now I want a range queen that is exactly what I want. I want to take all the crazy ass ideas in my twisted little brain and make them a reality. As far as glass goes, not a clue yet. Haven't gotten that far.

One other thing, I know that this is kinda stupid, but I don't want a metric round.

And that is basically what I want, just blue.

So just punching paper at 660?

Oh man that opens a can of worms.

223, 243, 6x45, 6.5x47, 6mm BR, 6mm Dasher, 260, 6.5x47, 6.5x284, 284, 280, 308 and that's just the tip of the iceberg, leaving out anything too esoteric.

For paper at that kind of a mid range you'll get 10 opinions for every 4 shooters you ask.

If it were me, just shooting paper, at that range and even out to 1k maybe, I'd say 260 rem. Tons of load data/components and a lot of versatility. Decent barrel life and wind bucking, plus if you ever decide to hunt with it there are plenty of suitable bullets for that. Hits harder than a 243 (6mm)and bucks the wind better than a 308, whats not to love?

As far as stocks go I'd take a hard look at Stockade's Prairie Dog/Tactical. It has the three action screws for the PTA you're looking at, a steel frame, composite cover and an internal bedding block. Very difficult to screw up a platform like that.

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One other thing, I know that this is kinda stupid, but I don't want a metric round.

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Would you please elaborate? I understand the first half of your sentence, but don't understand the second half.

.260 would be my choice, I think my next build will be a .260

I would like a .308 or .260 or something like that.

Ok, 2 people have said .260, sell me on it. Why .260 over .25-06? Strictly from the versatility of it or the ballistic aspect? I don't know a lot about the .260, that's why I ask.

.260 is a 6.5mm bore but it will do what you want very well as will a .308W.

Ok, how about the .30-06?

And also, what part of Moblie? I grew up just north of Till Mans corner

The 30-06 would work fine, as would a dozen other rounds. What you gain in the 260 is a ballistic edge due to the fact that it will shoot the excellent variety of 6.5, sorry-.264- bullets. Match grade ammo is available if you don't reload, and if you do components are easy to come by, Lapua makes brass etc etc etc.

Bobo,

I'm in Saraland.

Aight, that makes since.

And Saraland, ahhhhhhhhhhhh, the gators, right? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!! I loved

Playing y'all in football.

That was Satsuma and yes the Gators was my "team". Football was lacking but baseball was quite good. Won the State 6A championship one I was there. I was rifle team though.

Several of my friends went to MGM and Theodore.

Saraland has it own school system now and it is so much better than the county system.

Where are you now?

That's right, I forgot. I had heard that about Saraland. That's crazy!!!

I moved away after high school to play ball at UWA and ended up in Sylacauga.

I'm kind of ashamed to say, but I graduated from McGill Toolen in 2006.

Why ashamed?

I have never been to Sylacauga. Any good ranges around there doing competitions? If so, might be a good place to ring out your bench project.

Naw, there ain't crap up here. There is one range that is 100yd in the Talladega National Forrest and a skeet club in Childersburg, but that's about it. There isn't any clubs with big ranges close that I've been able to find. There is one in Georgia, but I ain't riding 4 hours to shoot 700yds. I have a buddy with a good bit of land that we can hit a 660 shot.

The CMP is building a nice range in Talladega County near Oxford.

The CMP? Is that the one in Talladega? Because if it is, they have been "building it" for 3 years now. It is supposed to be a 1200yd range.

Yep.

That's what I was afraid of. Yeah, it is a ton of land with four wheeler trails all through it. And they have been talking about a range for quite a while now, but when you go out there, there is no work going on.

Ok, new question. I have an Edge. I want a different stock. I read online and look at all the different tactical stocks and when I read it looks like half will fit and half won't. I'm so confused. Do they make a tactical stock for the Edge?

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Ok, new question. I have an Edge. I want a different stock. I read online and look at all the different tactical stocks and when I read it looks like half will fit and half won't. I'm so confused. Do they make a tactical stock for the Edge?

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Not yet.

You can buy a boyds or other laminate stock and modify the inletting for the axis.

Thank you for answering the question and not complaining because I have changed the subject again.

Hey it's your thread do what ya want with it!

The axis are good platforms to build off of. If the stock availability was better I would have gone that route over the model tens.

That comment wasn't directed at you, but thank you very much. And I agree, the stock SUCKS!!! And you can't get crap for them either.

Oh I know the feeling I keep telling myself my accustock is fine, I may buy a boyds tacticool and inlet it for my DBM but I can't seem to cut loose of my money! If I could get the vertical on the accustock I would probably keep them.

I have a buddy that runs a cabinet shop in town and I've been thinking about getting him to help me make a tacticool out of scrap wood that he has around the shop, but I've been entirely to lazy to do it and plus, I'm a machinist by trade and a welder by passion. Wood is not a medium that I know anything about. So, I'm sure I'll make it one day because that same buddy wants me to design a stock for him. I drew a couple of his tattoos, so he thinks I can draw.

I'm in about the same boat wood is for hearing! Hey if your a machinist get after the chassis system. I started the drawings for one, my main thing with any stock is I HATE having my thumb under something like in a thumb hole or pistol grip. I want a chassis that mine can be over. I wanted the full adjustable ar style butt with a 1911 style grip that any 1911 grips could be modified to put on. I just figured by the time I had machine time and material in one it would be a fortune. I can do all the Welding and have a machinist buddy that can hook me up.

If you have machine & welding capability you could try making a tacticool stock from aluminum? Maybe add a dbm and adjustable butt plate and cheek piece.

I've kicked that idea around about the aluminum, and I can see it in my brain. And I could put the exact finish on it that I want. But aluminum is expensive as hell!!! I also am the same way about my thumb. It can't be covered. Has to be open. And I like the 1911 grip idea. That's awesome as hell. Get a matching set for the 1911 that is on you hip while you are shooting the rifle that has 1911 grips on the stock. I'm gonna have to incorporate that some how.

Skeletonized Al would be cool as all get out though and can be fixed with a TIG and grinder if you screw it up. Wood can't be welded back later. That's why I don't do carpentry work. :rolleyes:

Amen to that!!! That is part of the reason I got into metal as a medium as a profession. The only thing is, I'm burned out on it now (no pun intended). What do you know about McGowen barrels?

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Skeletonized Al would be cool as all get out though and can be fixed with a TIG and grinder if you screw it up. Wood can't be welded back later. That's why I don't do carpentry work. :rolleyes:

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My thoughts on the wood too. I have thought about buying a Whidden v block and build it around that. I wish I could find a fore arm extrusion that I like. But I think I can piece some ar parts too. I always shoot in hand or off the Bipod. Hmmmm.

I've never had a McGowen barrel so no personal experience but they have a good reputation here on the forum.

i've had mcqowen,shilen and cbi barrels as well as stock the mcqowen i had was a 223 with a 1/8 twist 26" varmint contour shot great only had one problem with it the throat was to short to shoot anything heavier than 75gr amax heads.i tried to get it lengthened but the gunsmith i use messed it up (he replaced it) it shot to well for me to throw away so it sits in my safe waiting for me to decide what to rechamber it into.
i have a shilen that i'm in love with its a select match 30" bull barrel chambered in 308w 10-t its on my f-t/r rifle if i do my part right it will out shoot most i shoot against i've shot it out to 1000 yards with no problem using 155 gr pills.
as for cbi i have 2 of them 1 in 6.5 creedmoor (f open gun) and 1 in 223 wylde 8-t or should i say had this one my wife has taken it over and told me to name my price so i can biuld another for the money cbi's shoot good i have more than once shot 1/2" groups @ 300 yds with it and my son has used it to shoot f class matches out to 700yds.
if and when i ever shoot out the shilen i would have no problem replacing it with either another shilen or a cbi barrel in the same size and twist.
one thing i learned is to see what the gun likes not what you like i tried to get my 308 to shoot bergers and lapua senars with no luck and was about to sell it (bought it used unknown round count) then dropped to 168's and it started to shrink the groups next was 155's and bingo it loves then.
as for stock i have 3 boyds a tactical i opened up to old a hog hunter barrel that i traded another member here for and 2 thumb holes stocks.like them all . the other is a hs precision