Came across a BSA scope the other day. I was curious if anyone has had one of these and what the quality is for being a cheap scope. Would it hold zero on a 22-250?
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Came across a BSA scope the other day. I was curious if anyone has had one of these and what the quality is for being a cheap scope. Would it hold zero on a 22-250?
its a hit and miss. I have used some that worked great and Ive also had one break under 25-06 recoil
For a 50 or so $ scope I'm not expecting much.
not really the clarity on a bsa as much as it is the durability. Ive looked through some of them that are very clear
Clarity dosent bother me all too much it's durability I'm worried about.
I sent you a pm.
Dean
then i wouldnt suggest a BSA
Me neither. I played the cheap scope game for a while. Had a couple of the high magnification BSA scopes along with one of their spotting scopes. They all had poor optics and both scopes broke with less than 100 rounds of recoil. Some of their lower magnification models have pretty decent optics and would work OK on a rimfire, but that's about all I would use them for.
Yeah I'm looking for a highish magnification for my 22-250
you can find a 6.5-20x50ao simmons whitetail classic on the cheap. Its tough, clear, and cheap
and highish magnification
Yeah I'm looking for something cheap with good magnifications for 100-600 yards and with resettable turrets
I hate to rain on your parade, but there is no such thing as good optics for cheap. The cheapest stuff that I will use cost about $200 and it's well worth it. I've probably had a dozen scopes over the years that cost below $150 and they taught me that you'll never regret the money spent on good glass.
Is this for target or hunting or.....?
resettable turrets, high magnification, reliable and cheap? Aint gonna happen
It will be for target. Haha guess the gun is gonna sit around for a long time till I can afford some glass
Been there, done that. I've also used borrowed optics for a while until I could afford something decent.
One really great option for a target rifle, as long as you are good with 10x magnification, is the bushnell elite 10x40 tactical model. They can be had for $199, have milradian reticle and milradian turrents with resettable zero and they are amazingly clear for the price. I use one on my rifle I just built as well as my target AR-15 and love the scope, great buy for the money. I'm a fan of 10x fixed power scopes myself, much easier to learn to estimate range via the reticle if you know you have the same power every time and for about 40 years the standard for military snipers was a 10x scope. ;)
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/950...-reticle-matte
For an extra $100 there are a ton of SWFA SS scopes with power from 6x to 20x and 30mm tubes, hard to beat for the money....
http://swfa.com/SWFA-SS-20x42-Tactic...pe-P53716.aspx
Again, not trying to be a downer, but I have on several occasions been really dissapointed and just plain mad over spending $80 on a scope that ended up in the dumpster....
Thank you all for the tips. Much appreciated.
You're certainly welcome, just trying to pass along stuff I learnt the hard way ;)
Better Stay Away
I tried a BSA 36x44 target scope once because it seemed like a good deal, around $70.00 I think, a closeout on Natchez. I read all of the negative reviews on forums like this but I had to try it for myself. Optics were like looking through a coke bottle in part because of poor quality components and also due to short eye relief and very unforgiving eye positioning. Had it mounted on a model 12 BVSS in 223 Remington. Every time I shot the AO had to be refocused. It did hold a zero however. Sold it at a $10.00 net loss
I doubt that I will every try the brand again and caution friends and family about the brand too. If a guy was going to put a 4x fixed or low power variable BSA on a bolt action rimfire rifle maybe it would be ok.
BSA also sells several "better quality" scopes but I would be leary of those models too. You know the fool me once story right?
To their credit they do offer the same lifetime warranty that other importers of this level of chinese crap do, i.e. send it in with $10.00 and you will eventually get a new one back
If you need a cheap scope I suggest Centerpoint from Walmart. At least that way when you return it you will not have to ship it and you won't have to pay $10.00 to do so, as long as you have your receipt
I would only recommend BSA on rimfire (IE - very low recoil) rifles. I do happen to have a BSA (Sweet 22) on my Savage MKII 22LR. Works fine and since I don't shoot it more than 100 yards in broad daylight I am not particular about the optics. Otherwise, BSA is just too poor in all respects for anything more than that... just my opinion.
I just need something good for 300 yards. I don't think 4-16 is enough magnification or is it?
Found a few scopes. How is Barska, ncstar, leatherwood, firefield, hawke, and mueller? All are around 8-32 power
I have a Millet 6-18x40 and it has treated me well, I have had BSA's in the past and theones I bought 10 years ago were decent. Held zero and about as clear as one would expect. But I have bought 2 different ones in the last 2 years and both were junk. Crosshairs broke loose of both of them. To me barska is about the same, but a tad better than BSA. Centerpoints at Wal-Mart seem to be ok. Some of my buddies have them. I have had great luck with my Osprey from Natchez. 10-40x50 and holds zero and pretty clear for the $$. I had gottena couple of Tru-glo's from Natchez, and the first two treated me really well. the last 2 i got both shook apart right out of the box. Less than 10 rounds each. Only good thing about those is Natchez will give you a full refund including shipping if they fail.
Lots of good advice in this thread. My comments...............FWIW
I have a lot of scopes, even 12 'spares'. I like to rotate them through the collection.
The Center Point (4-16X40) from Wally World, is a pretty good scope for the $. Recently, I purchased a new, Nikon Monarch 4-16X40. I brought it and a couple of spares to work (all unmounted). I let some of my hunting pals check out a group of various targets at 70 yds. These are not expert target shooters (neither am I!!), The cost of each scope was not revealed until the test was over. Most guys thought the Nikon was less clear, etc than the CP.... After disclosing the price of the CP, guys kept picking it up and asking: " HOW much is this one??".
The winner was a new Viper Vortex 6.5-20X50. I sent the Nikon back for a refund.
One brand that I really like is the Milletts. I have 2 of the 6-25X56 (35 mm tube) on two of my best shooting rifles. I have also purchased several of the 4-16X56 SF Milletts and love 'em. No Milletts were used in the above 'test', they are all mounted.
I also have Konus, Muller, Pentax....even a Barfska, er, Barska
In the future, I will stick to Vipers and Milletts......
ron
Thanks guys! Here's a couple I been looking at
http://swfa.com/Barska-10-40x50-Snip...pe-P55773.aspx
http://swfa.com/Firefield-8-32x50-Ta...pe-P55544.aspx
http://swfa.com/Leatherwood-7-30x50-...pe-P11916.aspx
http://swfa.com/Leatherwood-7-30x50-...pe-P11907.aspx
http://swfa.com/Mueller-8-32x44-Targ...pe-P42358.aspx
I would cross that Firefield off the list at not a moment to soon, a side focus for scope for 120 bucks, I can only imagine there interpretation of acceptable slop,
Tanks Dean
Will do! I really like mueller but idk if it has resettable turrets which I really like.
Tight budget? Look at an older weaver K or T series. long tubes and better glass for your money. You may not have as much magnification, but you will be able to see better them blurred targets.
Yeah I got a tight budget. I'm probably going to go with the 4-16 from cp then save. 500$ will be the limit.
If 500 is your limit why not get a vortex viper 6.5-20x50 i believe cameraland still has the fine duplex reticles still on sale for 280 or so. If not they run 480 for other reticles. They have great glass plenty of magnification and resettable turrets.
Im just leaning and getting into target shooting and shooting in general. So 20x should be enough? The range I'm at has 100-300yrds and a 600yrd range. Thanks for the help!! This forum is great. Lots of good info.
20X is more than enough. I shoot iron sights on my 45-120 at ranges out to 500 yards pretty good. I've shot it well past 500, but not as good:black_eyed:
LIke I said before, the standard for military snipers for many years was a 10X fixed power scope. :thumb:
If you are prepared to spend $300. I would look at the Vortex from Cameraland, or a Weaver V-24 from Natchez.
Thanks all!
I would look at the redfield revenge
Alright yeah what I'm looking for is something good for up to 600 yards with resettable turrets. Mill/Mill would be awesome
oh so now you're getting picky..lmao....:thumb:
it has pop up resettable turrets but no mildot. it has the accuranger reticle. lot of scope for the money and leupold backs them
the mueller has resettable turrets, just have to loosen the torx screw to do it
Yeah I figured if I'm going to save for a scope I'm going to get what I want. I like the mueller but I also really like the super sniper 20x fixedQuote:
Originally Posted by ShowMeShooter
My two best scopes are the ones with fixed power, the 20 power super sniper on my 338 edge, and my Sightron 36 power on my 257 Weatherby, they give me the least amount of grief and aggravation, the Sightron has been modded by that guy on 6br with the two locking pins you take out before you do any windage or elevation adjustments, and it also has the locking ring for the adjustable objective, I tell you that thing never drifts moves or goes out of focus, I will eventually have this set up on all my rigs, does anyone know the name of the modification or the name of the guy who did or does this mod, he is they only one that does it as far as I know.
Tanks Dean
If I was shooting past 100 yards, I would pass on the Mueller. I have had several Muellers, and I'm not a big fan of them past 100 yards. They are great for rimfires or 100 and in. JMO. Although it isn't an apple/oranges comparison, I like the Vortex Viper I just got a lot better than the Mueller target. For $290 it is a lot of scope.
Thanks. Like I said I'm going to be using the scope on my stevens 200 build for novis target shooting out to 600 yards. I'd like to be able to have zero resettable turrets so when I adjust I won't forget my zero. But I don't wont to be paying a grand for the optic.
Don't forget about Swifts. They're not at the bottom of the barrel and not the most expensive either but they offer a lot of quality for the price.
I concur on the swifts.
Dean
Ill take a look at them. Thanks