So if you have one rifle to do everything forever (I will assume it is a Savage 10/ 110). What is it? Money/ parts/ availability is no issue.
Calibre
Barrel profile/ length
Stock
Trigger
Glass
Bottom metal/ Mags
Mounts/ Rings
Etc.
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So if you have one rifle to do everything forever (I will assume it is a Savage 10/ 110). What is it? Money/ parts/ availability is no issue.
Calibre
Barrel profile/ length
Stock
Trigger
Glass
Bottom metal/ Mags
Mounts/ Rings
Etc.
Go.
260 Rem
Varmint 24"
Choate Tactical
Accu Trigger
Burris 30 MM scope
Std DBM
Warne Bases and Warne Rings
Sav 110
30-06.... not my favorite, but it will be here forever, and will do it all.
sporter, 24"
Stockade-
Rifle Basix or Timney
Carl Zeiss
Factory
Dednutz
Simple, sturdy, dependable, light enough
I agree with Bossman. I would add a 308 to the list.
I could see myself using my 300WSM for the rest of my life, it is just a great and fun rifle and good at everything I want to use it for, heres the current setup:
Savage 16 LH
300WSM
Stockade PD/T
factory accutrigger at 1.5lbs
Weaver Tactical 3-15x50 EMDR
Stockade bottom metal with Alpha type 3 magazines
EGW 20MOA base with Burris XTR rings
factory Savage barrel with an aftermarket muzzle brake
This thing is dead accurate and light enough to use as my primary hunting weapon; with the help of the muzzle brake recoil is very manageable making it great for target shooting and hunting. I'm pretty sure I will still be changing things on this rifle, but as it sits, it is perfect for me. I really need to take some updated photos and post them on here somewhere.
It would have to be my Dasiy Red Rider...
Sav.110FP 308 Win.
Varmint 24"
Choate Tactical
Factory Accutrigger at 2.0lbs
Nikon 4.5-14x40mm Mildot
Loupold One Piece Base and Rings
.250 Savage Ackely Improved
Magnum Contour 26" length
B&C Stock
Accutrigger
Vortex Viper 6.5-20x44
Burris Signature Zee Rings
If I could only have one rilfe for life, and it had to be a Savage (Sorry guys if it was anything it would be a Panda.) it would be my friends rifle, and the rifle that Fred Moreo, kicked but at the NBRSA eastern Finile with. The gun proved to be a terror for any Bat, Panda, or other custom with the top shooter in the eastern division behind them. Fred shot small group of the 100 yard match with 5 shot measuring .169, and he finished 3rd.
Savage target action that stated life as a right bolt left port, then SSS cut a micro right ejection port, timed and trued, custom bolt handel, Evolution trigger.
Caliber 6 PPC (Greates round since sliced bread.)
Barrel Krieger 1 in 14 twist #18 profile cut at 22 inches long. ( I would also have a 1 in 8 Brux barrel chambered in 6 dasher with 26 inche long number 8 profile, for this rifle change the bolt head, and shoot it 600 yard matchs as well.)
Stock Tom Meridith Kelby made TMBR blue and black
Scope Leupold 45 competition
Ring Talley 30mm
Weight 10.3 lbs.
Cost of this beast is around $2600.00 (Scope eats up a big chunk of it.)
Here is a picture of the beast
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...lbyco1Fred.jpg
I have or have had all that are mentioned and then some, and have thought this out a few times.If only allowed one (1) gun my choice would be either the 22 hornet or the 22mag.
Reasons ammo is cheaper than others,accurcy as good as or better than some,low recoil not that recoil bothers me,can and has killed everything up to and including deer with proper shot placement refer back to recoil,anyone can be taught to shoot them comfortably.
So in my mind the ones I have choosen FOR ME would be my all round need everything gun. Call it a survivalist weapon because it can do it all,protect you,feed you,and give you all the shooting time you could want cheaply. What's left?
I am in the process of searching for and getting a model 40 22 hornet, but am I ready to give up all my others, not even close. Thank God I live in the U.S.A. and can own what I want.
Savage short varmint action
SSS Comp Trigger
Criterion 22" 1:8 light varmint 260 Remington barrel
NSS lug
Manners T6A stock, Desert Sage, 90% carbon, 1 stud, 4 cups
CDI DBM
Schmidt & Bender PMII 3-20x50 P4 optic
Seekins rings & 20MOA base
(You said money was no object...right?)
"rjtfroggy's" response was interesting to me because it is exactly my initial answer for the same reasons. However, on reflection, ammunition availability could eventually be problematic for the hornet and because of that I would change my selection to the .223 rem. Matter of fact, I already have my last ditch gun and it is a savage model 11 hog hunter in .223 rem.
This is ****ed close to what mine would be too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bossman
I would do Manners T4 stock and a varmint contour though.
It all depends on what the purpose is and where it is used. Most hunters I know own one rifle. Here in New Hampshire where hunting is mostly in heavy woodlands and shots are short the hot cartridges are useless. Savage does not make the ideal rifle for these conditions. Sorry to tell you if I had only one rifle it would be a Marlin 336 in .30-30 with a low power fixed at 4X or even a 2X mostly as a concession to my old eyesight. It it was to be a Savage anything in .308 but preferably something like a weather warrior with the same low power scope and cartridges loaded to near or just above .30-30 ballistics. loaded with bullets made for the .30-30. Those are the bullets I load for my lone .308 for my model 88 Winchester lever gun. But, with the possablity of getting a moose lottery ticket I might go with my .35 Whelen 110. If I could get a lever gun in .38-55 I would go with that.
El Lobo
For my all around best gun it would be a toss up between my 12FV 308 for ammo availability and it is just devistatingly accurate, or my 243AI due to it being able to be loaded with screaming fast varmint/target loads and/or heavy target/hunting loads so between them all I can hunt about anything from deer on down out to about 400 yards and still be able to shoot factory ammo should the need arise.
If only one rifle, and a Savage, The Savage 22LR with a threaded barrel would be my only gun. Most shots are within 100 yards, and the rifle can be as loud or quiet as it needs to be. If you think a 22LR is not a good killin' tool, just ask a few poor mountain boys that used the 22lr to hunt deer all year long. With that one gun, I would get what ever else I needed.
Well I already have it but it's not a Savage. It could just as well be one and I might make another someday on a savage 10.
Calibre: .45Cinderblock (.452" 200gn bullet @ 2000fps+, .460 Rowland case @ .888", CCI MLPP, xx.x gn Longshot)
Barrel profile/ length: sporter 18" 3-step mauser taper.
Stock: Richards Microfit Black walnut, classic rollover, butt-plate (no pad)
Trigger: Timney Mauser trigger with Remington style safety.
Glass: None. Glass isn't necessary or useful.
Bottom metal/ Mags: Troup Systems 1911 magazine conversion, 7,8,10,15rd 1911 .45acp magazines.
Mounts/ Rings: Williams peep rear sight, globe type front sight.
Rifle weighs 8lbs and shoots up to 200yrds without significant holdover. I can put .45acp ammo in it and take anything inside 100yrds with VERY low noise and almost no recoil at all. I can also pump up .45acp loads (using .45acp brass) to power levels that would grenade a semi-auto pistol or rifle for sure and take any deer/coyote/pig sized game with .44mag power levels. I can also take .460 rowland brass and pump it up to 55K psi and be able to really well deal with bears, close range elk, or up to .180" hard steel plate for lightly armored vehicles. It penetrates barriers, spalls the crud out of anything behind a barrier and can deliver from 300 to 1800lbs of energy and use anything from the softest of cast lead bullets, jacketed HP's or ball in any weight I can find. Since it's a rifle I can also single load the pointed bullets that barnes makes for .460S&W.
My favorite load is a 185gn nosler JHP at 2000fps. Devastating on pig and deer and shoots 2-3" groups @ 100yrds with open sights.
This pretty well wraps it for me too! The old 06 just plain works.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bossman
Not necessary but it is useful. Especially if you want to shoot further than 500 yards. But peep sights are underrated and very versatile for sure. Cool build.Quote:
Originally Posted by r3dn3ck
All you guys have missed the entire point of the Order of the Savage Barrel Nut. My one rifle would be a Savage Acutrigger long action in stainless, a factory tupperware sporter stock plus a pillared and bedded laminate thumbhole stock, a Swarovski 3-18 x 50 scope on a one-piece rail, and the following barrels: 30-06 (24" sporter) 338-06 (24" heavy sporter) and .223 rem. (26" fluted varmint and 22" sporter)
LOL
Cheezie
Well played sir. Well played. Maybe not in the spirit of the game, but within the rules I'd say ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by cheezie
Cheese is right I only have one action and will use it as the basis for my swaps.
It would be my T/C Black Diamond XR inline .50. Will do for everything in North America properly loaded and no legislative hostility to speak of . Yet. Otherwise it will be my 111 .270 (with a spare barrel or 2) , wood stocked ( I like wood) and with a Leupold VX1 4 x 12. The factory trigger is just NICE and will be kept. A spare parts kit would round things out nicely.The only change would be a detachable magazine and even that is not a necessity. Love both rifles. Won't part with either.
about the time I finshed this I saw Cheezie's post, but im in it now so what the heck
Switch barrel Savage SS long action with DBM.
300 WM barrel, Magazine and Bolt
35 Whelen Barrel, Magazine and Bolt
280 Barrel, Magazine and Bolt
308 Barrel, Magazine and Bolt
6BR Barrel, Magazine and Bolt
223 Barrel, Magazine and Bolt
A Schmidt and Bender scope.
Accutrigger with a few rings cut out of the spring
Night Force Rings
XLR Evolution Stock.
I have a number of rifles from different manufacturers and if I could only keep one it would come down to either my Savage American Model 14 in 308 Win or the rifle I inherited from my Dad which is a pre 64 Winchester Model 70 in 270 Win. The Winchester took a really bad tumble down a rock slide in Colorado with my son while Elk hunting which broke the factory stock and gouged the barrel. I had a custom stock put on it and the barrel repaired and reblued with a mat blue by the Colorado School Of Trades Gun Smithing schools so it would be a tough choice.
That said the Savage American Model 14 is a wonderful rifle and the trigger is definitely better the the pre 64 Winchester Model 70 's trigger. I guess I'd have to give's Dad's rifle to one of my sons who hunts.
any Savage model with AT in 300wm
nuff said
suitable for any chore- more than enough for most
but if I can only have one.............
I can have only one riffle......
that means I can only hunt with that rifle no matter where I go......
ok 375 HH .....
has to be a Savage.....
ok Savage 110 in classic wood stock, Leupold 3x9, Warne QR rings
Just one huh? and a rifle?
It would have to be a... 22LR for me.
for the most perfect action it would have to be very durable with little to no movable parts with screws that I could take out with any thin piece of tool out there, that would negate savages all together, so I'd go with a CZ BRNO for irons, CZ 452 American for a scoped rifle, scope being a Leupold Rimfire, with CZ rings. It's about as tough as they come, and better than any american made crap minus the Coopers. Americans just dont make well fitting firearms like they used to.
CZ has excellent triggers (just like the Win 70 Pre 64)
Has double extractors,
excellent ignition
durable magazine
great stock, weight, make, fit
and finish is right at 320 which is what I like in a hunting rifle.
and most of all it can be field stripped with just a flat head screw driver, no punches and hammers necessary.
Now if I was stranded on a space ship for eternity with only one choice it would be my 1911 Colt, a roll of ductape and some channel locks!
If it was a shotgun it'd be a 870 Wingmaster.
But man o man ain't I glad I can have more than one, cuz my daily hunter is a Savage 14 american in 308
if I could only do one it would be
16" .308 sr25 (ar10) with a lightweight rail/barrel/stock
leupold mk8 1.1-8x24 optic in a quick detach mount
KAC backup irons
trijicon rmr on a 45' mount
suppressor
can be done around 9lbs can cover anything from up close and personal to 1000yds can be used for defense to hunting. load it with 110gr v-max's and it's deadly on smaller kritters. thats if money was no object.
now from a realistic approach
savage 110 in 30-06
20" heavy mag/lite varmint contour, threaded for a brake/possible suppressor in the future, throated for 208gr a-max's
pillar bedded lightweight stock
2.5-10 leupold
ammo can be found anywhere or loaded from mild to wild and this is comming from someone who doesn't own a 30-06
Well, since this isn't a "one GUN" thread, I can't spell out my dream shotgun.
But in terms of rifles, here's an outline of my dream rig---
Caliber : 6.5x47mm Lapua
Barrel : 22" Varmint contour, 1:8" twist, SureFire brake/adapter and SureFire suppressor
Stock : McMillan A3
Trigger : Timney adjustable, set at 4lb
Scope : NightForce 3.5-15x50mm NXS, 0.1mrad adjustments, with FFP H-58 reticle
Mounts : Badger Ordnance +20MOA 1pc rail, Badger M40A3 rings,
Badger cosine indicator, Badger Offset Mount with Burris FastFire II Reflex RDS.
Mags : Badger Ordnance DBM's
Extras : Harris BRM-S Bipod, T.I.S. M24 Sling
Have to agree with Americanstrat98 on this one.
My CZ 452 Lux LH in 22LR
Factory Barrel
Factory stock
Factory Trigger
Leupold VX-R 1.25-4x
CZ Rings
Leather Sling
I base this choice on it's all-around practicality and usefulness. I would ultimately choose a Remington 870 20-gauge over the rimfire though if the OP didn't specifically say rifles only.
Savage short action (currently left hand but it may change)
Calibre: 300 Blackout
Barrel profile/ length: .920" straight taper at 17" with a threaded muzzle. 8 twist rifling for shooting heavy bullets
Stock: Currently in a Boyds Tacticool
Trigger Accutrigger currently but might get a SSS comp trigger
Glass: Haven't figured out yet but it will have a mildot reticle
Bottom metal/ Mags: Internal
Mounts/ Rings: Currently has Ferrell bases
Etc.
The reason I like the 300 Blackout is it will kill any animal in my area easily. It has very little recoil and is very miserly on the powder. I can shoot everything from 86 grain FMJ's to the 245 grain cast bullets that I designed to work with it. Brass is made from worn out 223 brass which will likely always be around. Shooting my subsonic cast bullets cost me 4.4 cents a shot and supersonic cast costs me 7.3 cents a shot. I can take 00 buck balls and light load them to take squirrel or rabbit. And if I add a suppressor when shooting subsonics it will be as quiet as a slingshot. For me being able to cast using common wheel weights is key to having a "forever" gun.
Second one is a rifle I built for my wife
Calibre: 45 ACP
Barrel profile/ length" 17" Shilen straight taper with Tech sights at the front and Williams WGRS at the rear
Stock: Factory polymer to keep the weight down
Trigger: Factory but it has been cleaned up some
Glass: None, ghost rings only
Bottom metal/ Mags: None
Mounts/ Rings: None
Etc.
Here are pictures of my wife's gun, enjoy:
Front sight:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...frontsight.jpg
A few views:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...verallside.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ge/overall.jpg
Rear sight:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4.../rearsight.jpg
Sight picture:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ghtpicture.jpg
I like the idea of a 45 ACP bolt gun for close up work on problem "animals" that show up regularly. This makes quick work of almost anything that wanders onto my property. My wife didn't want any optics to mess with so irons were a must and ghost rings seemed like a natural for this setup. Having a 17" barrel with 15.5" hanging out makes for a handy little carbine. Recoil is light and managable enough that my wife actually likes it. I realize it is not a long range gun but I think it will work well within 100 yards. I also shoot cast out of this gun with amazing results.
I was considering building the 300 Blackout identical to the 45 ACP except add a Matech rear sight like a modern day tang sight for those really long shots.
I have a lot of guns and like em all. That said my 16 creedmoor does everything all the others will do. Don't shoot in matches just like to hunt. 95 gr varmint to 160 gr hunting bullets it shoots most everything in a half inch. Leupold bases rings & scope. Everything else is slightly modified trigger bedding ect.
ds: I was considering building the 300 Blackout identical to the 45 ACP except add a Matech rear sight like a modern day tang sight for those really long shots.
Not to hi-jack thread, sent you a pm about sights. Good set up for northwest NC mtns where I hunt.
Here it is. I bought my dream rifle back in 1996 and had to order it through a local gun shop. It was a factory offering from back when Savage offered all their centerfires in both right and left hand configurations. It came with all the bells and whistles from the factory and is stupid accurate. Best group is 10 shots into .446 at 100 yards. It's a Model 116FLCSAK chambered in 30-06. I topped it with Leupold bases and rings and a Leupold 3-9x40. The only modification was to tune the 3 screw trigger. I've never been undergunned with it. It has been a great rifle and is easily my favorite bolt rifle. I'm sure glad I got it before they discontinued it and I'm kind of befuddled as to why they don't still offer a factory model with all the bells and whistles?
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w...ps067790c6.jpg
That's a really nice rifle Jeep.
define bells and whistles? What does Savage not offer anymore that you wish you could get?
Fred is gonna die from lack of sleep, yet his phone will keep ringing.Quote:
Originally Posted by 82boy
In my opinion all the bells and whistles include a 22"OAL stainless semi heavy fluted barrel with the adjustable brake,(I love the brake) a detachable box magazine,a synthetic stock with a good recoil pad ( a full length aluminum bedding block would be nice but wasn't offered in 1996) an adjustable trigger,chambered in standard calibers. weighing in at a reasonable hunting rifle weight (around 7#) The closest thing currently offered is the 116 bear hunter but the magnum calibers are way too much for most medium game species and hunting the southeastern US. The rifle I have has the right balance of ease of use (pop in the mag you're loaded without fumbling in the dark),weight (not too heavy to hump up a mountain or too light too be unstable when propped up for a shot), size (not too long to sling and walk through the woods catching on everything or hunt from a stand. It is right at home across my lap on the ground, in a tree or easily slipping out the window of a box blind) , recoil( a real kitty cat to shoot from a bench and being able to turn the brake off to prevent excessive blast from a box blind is nice), power (Hey it's a 30-06 what's not to love? Never undergunned rarely overgunned with plenty of range and a huge selection of bullets, most often drops em right where they're hit ),accuracy( a one shot wonder that puts em exactly where you point it both in the field or at the range It makes double lung and heart shots a breeze on larger game and head shots on smaller critters a piece of cake. Brings custom rifle guys over to my bench asking Those are some tiny groups whatcha shootin?)Quote:
Originally Posted by rattfink
Left handed they used to offer all the models in a lefty option this is no longer the case.
Currently the rifle I have (116FLCSAK) would be a special order from Savage and after calling to check on it the cost is up there compared to off the shelf offerings. I would love to see them offer such a rifle again. Maybe a "Bear hunter" rebranded the "Game hunter" model in standard calibers both long and short action right and left handed models. If they can keep the MSRP in line with the competitions standard models as they have done historically then I'll get in line for 2 more for my sons and maybe a couple for the grandsons.
The rifle I'd grab and go with for all things is my HK417, I love the G36K but for one gun the 7.62 would win out.