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Did anyone else get in on the group buy for Shaw 300 blackout barrel for 139?
Just wondering if they're ever going to ship. When I placed the order they said delivery in March. Then it said April. Now it says May?
This is my first order from them. I haven't yet called or otherwise pestered them because I figure the holdup is most likely with Shaw.
Anybody else wondering the same thing or have any info?
Respectfully, I have never understood why 300 Blackout is an interesting caliber for a bolt gun unless you are firing suppressed. Why? The round was made for ARs, it is designed to duplicate an already average cartridge, the 7.62x39 and use AR magazines. There are a bazillion 30 cal rounds out now already. Other than the allure of the new and sound suppression, why this?
Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by goosebrown
Because we can. 8)
Because the 308 Win is boring and the 7.62x39 is for Communists! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by goosebrown
I played with a 300 Whisper in a Contender for a few years and it was pretty fun. I wasn't any better than either the 30-30 or 30 Herret barrels I had, but it was different. Besides, buying the newest and coolest caliber is just our way of boosting the US economy. ;D
Andrew
Back to the OP's question, in this growing 300 Blk market, missed timelines appear to be quite the norm for now.
As the retailers are at the mercy of the subcontractors and the supliers, who are are all slammed too.
Any prepay situation is subject to delay, while a bird-in-the-hand prices are sometimes quite inflated.. to maintain sanity in the current market, I basically expect delays..
Whats especially critical for the retailers, is they need to keep the updates flowing, and give realistic assessments of the impact to the timeline when the delays occur.
Delays don't bother me nearly as much as the silence once the delays begin...
At work, I'm accountable for my timetables, and when my timelines get adjusted for some reason, I'm expected to;
Explain what caused the change.
Explain what I'm doing to mitigate the situation.
Provide a new timeline based on the revised plan.
Anything less is simply leaving people hanging. A simple update on any group buys to that effect would be greatly appreciated.
SC
As far as a justification or rationales for my decisions to make ANY purchase, its a personal decision, after doing my own research and assessing my personal preferences.. Just like anyone else. To believe that somehow my decision-making process is influenced by other people's impression of anything, would be a false assumption. Asking why one person chooses one cartridge over another is about the same as asking why someone picks creamy peanut butter over crunchy, or chocolate milk versus 2%. I'm not interested in convincing anyone to shoot 300 BLK, eat creamy peanut butter or drink chocolate milk..
Celebrate the diversity of the opportunities we have, make your own decisions, and enjoy! There's not enough time in life to be proccupied with what other people choose to do, especially when we try to make it fit within our own unique decision-making criteria, personal experiences and perspectives.
:-)
SC
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Originally Posted by gnarlytoes
OK I can respect all that. I was really just wondering if there was some superpower like changing water to wine that I didn't get from the current thread. You know sometimes there is some particular advantage that doesn't get listed anywhere.
Carry on...
FWIW, I keep wanting a .357 Sig which I can't really find a reason to get...
I'm sorry for the lack of recent information as I don't have any ETA updates. I have been placing weekly calls to ER Shaw to try and get status but unfortunately they can't give me any answers yet. They, along with most other large firearms parts manufactures are swamped with orders and can't keep up with demand. That, and coupled with a personnel change there that has affected them, has make it difficult for me to get answers. I am currently working with their VP to go over my orders but so far this still has not led to any updates on their production timelines. As soon as I get some answers, or even some new estimates, from Shaw I will be posting those.Quote:
Originally Posted by gnarlytoes
Regards,
Lance Skok
Gun Shack
I almost got one to rechamber to 300 wsm for my Striker. But, I already have a 260 ordered with them.
I'm waiting too. I hope something happens soon.
I don't know why so many people have to ask why the 300 BLK. Why do I need to justify it? You might as well ask why own a gun. Because I can. Because I want to use my silencer on it. Because the terrain in my area doesn't lend itself to longer than 150 yard shots. Because I have disposable income.
Thanks for the reply. That's what I figured was going on. Maybe the occasional courtesy e-mail to purchasers letting them know about the delay would be appropriate? Even if you couldn't give a definite arrival date, it would be much appreciated on this end.Quote:
Originally Posted by 260 Rem
I was also wondering when they would arrive, why would they give us a estimated date and then with no communication continue to bump it month to month on their web site. I will wait as everyone else is but will def be my last business with them and ER.
I had the chance to meet Lance and Noemi a couple of weeks ago. They accomodated me, an out-of-town visitor, on an off day so I could get some parts. They're good people; maybe just a little preoccupied with a growing business, imminent birth and routine demands upon time. And Shaw makes decent barrels for the $.Quote:
Originally Posted by jeazor
But they're not the only ones with old information on their website. Today, I called McRee Precision to get one of the Savage chassis on sale. And they're out of the specially-priced ones. Yet they failed to update their website advising this. I could've acted petulantly and refused to buy one for lack of status update. But I bought one, anyway. Simply because the chassis reviews and their business reputation are uniformly good.
Hope you get your barrel soon, and it shoots well. :)
Me, too. I'm just getting more ticked off everyday, to the point of cancelling the order and selling off all the stuff I got for the build.Quote:
Originally Posted by jeazor
If you give someone a deposit and there is no reasonable expectation of product being delivered or even an attempt of communication that things are delayed, at what point do the deposits turn into donations for the company doing the group buy? There's not a lot of difference between taking a deposit and ripping off customers at this point, IMO. How many deposits are out there? Who has them, Gunshack or Shaw? And what are they doing with the cash? If they took in a few hundred deposits, that's not a bad paycheck for nothing but promises (only provided when asked). Wait long enough and all us suckers cancel our orders and that's a neat trick, free money for them.
Should all of us on backorder start calling Shaw directly? I have no problem speed dialing 5 or 6 times a day, if enough people were to do that all day, every day, maybe they'd get something going.
James,Quote:
Originally Posted by hugegator
As I have communicated several times, things are out of my control. I had no reason to believe we would have experienced these delays when I took orders. I don't like the circumstances any more than you do. To answer your question on the deposits, I am the one who has the deposits. I do not feel that a $25 deposit was unreasonable since I am the one with the order commitment to Shaw. Please feel free to call me if you have any other questions or concerns.
Regards,
Lance Skok
Gun Shack LLC
210-858-6882
Tough to be the middle man. I would say thank you Lance for putting together a great chance to get good barrels cheap. I have a 260 barrel on order and hope for a small shank 30 cal bull barrel group buy in the future.
hugegator, if you cancel your order, and never come back to this site, I will gladly send you $25 to make up for your HUGE loss!
You were bragging about disposable income, now you are crying about $25? REALLY?
I'm not crying about $25 at all. It's about the principle of the thing and it seems like I really only need to be irritated with Shaw.
I will admit that I came across as a complete douche in this thread. I apologize for that and won't post here again.
There are a bunch of barrel mfgrs that are 4 months or more out.
Anyone get their barrel yet? Any new info on when we might expect them?
We are all still waiting. I have placed two calls per day this week (except July 4) and have not been able to reach ER Shaw or get them to return my calls. I'll try again this upcoming week.Quote:
Originally Posted by jeazor
Regards,
Lance
Anything yet Lance?
Nothing firm on these. I did have a short conversation with Roy on Friday but he could not give me any committed dates. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by jeazor
Regards,
Lance
Any new info on the 300 blackout barrels?
We still have not been able to have a phone conversation in a while but I did receive this email from Beth at ER Shaw on Friday:Quote:
Originally Posted by jeazor
"Hi Lance..
I have been in and out all week… I believe Wolf called and asked for barrels. Your barrels will be leaving next week .."
Let's hope this holds true,
Lance
Sounds good, Thanks for the info Lance.
I have cancelled my blackout barrel last week that I ordered from back in dec 2011 due to the time frame , I will make a 308 subsonic bolt gun instead. I have placed 2 other orders and recieved one of those within 6 weeks of ordering . So I am still waiting on a third order for a bull 7mm rem mag . The 308 varmit barrel that I recieved is shooting low .3's so I'm hoping the 7mag barrel comes soon . Please let us know on the order as soon as possible .
Got my 300 BLK barrel from Midway was in a monthly buried at the bottom of the page when i ordered was on backorder no biggie as not in a hurry came in four weeks from AAC had Keystone Accuracy put together now have to get too the range and try it out.
I had placed an order for a 7-08 barrel on the group buy as well. Just canceled it because Shaw wasn't communicating with them.
Can't blame the retailer, I'm sure they're frustrated as well. But, a great price doesn't mean much if you can't get your hands on it...
I still have not received any updates via email or phone in a while but to my surprise the 7mm barrels were dropped off today by UPS. At least we got one order and hopefully others will follow soon.
Lance
Lance, do you end up with extra barrels from these group buys? Say, due to minimum order amounts or cancellations? I ask because I recall seeing mention of any extra barrels in the .30 group buy being chambered in .308. Thanks.
Opus Dei or someone else can have my barrel if they ever show up. I just sent Lance an e-mail to cancel my order and refund of my deposit. It doesn't matter how good the price if the order is never filled.
Not blaming Gunshack. It seems to be Shaw's screw-up.
Thanks, gnarlytoes, but I was more interested in there being an unclaimed 6.5G barrel.
After a LONG wait the 300 Blackout Sporter's came in today. The arrival was without warning but VERY welcomed. We are processing orders now.... Anyone having second thoughts about canceling can let me know ASAP and I will still fulfill your order.
Regards,
Lance
I just got home and saw the reply e-mail from Lance that the barrels have finally arrived and shipping. Talk about bad timing. I had given up.
Thanks for the good news, Lance.
No love on the 6.5 barrels yet?
Lance, any update on the 6.5 magnum group buy yet? It's a month past (not due to your fault) but just wondering if I'll be able to get my build completed before deer season?
Curious about 6mm group buy as well.
i was so excited when i logged on and saw that the 300 blackouts were shipped. i started building my rifle in my mind again and it kept a smile on my face until i came back to this thread and read it for a second time. i did not order the contour that was shipped so here i am again, in the same position i have been for several months. the price is great, i do not want to pursue any other options but got dam i could use this barrel right now.
because there are several people eagerly awaiting their group buys, can we have an order of which ones should be fulfilled first? e.g. 6.5 mags, 6mm, blackout varmint. we understand er shaw may not follow the order but it will be nice to see it.
any update Lance??
Sorry folks. As usual, emails and voicemails have not been answered. Based on the last two shipments I can only expect that more barrels will arrive without notice.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeMcC