93r17 misfire

I was wondering if anyone was having alot of misfires with 17hmr?
I tried a box of Federal v-max and had 15 out of 40 misfires.
I tried a box of cci tnt and had 10 out of 50 misfires.
The gun has only had 4 boxes of bullets put thru it,I dont remember any misfires
with the first 2 boxes but that was right after I bought it a year ago.
I didn't know if it's the bullets or the gun,I did find out cci makes the bullets for the other
17hmr companies. The gun a Savage 93r17. Any info would be helpful.

Try Hornady 17 gr ;)

I've got well, around 200 rounds through mine. Only a handful of misfires. Maybe 6-7 at most. I've shot remington, cci, hornady, and Winchester, in 17&20gr varieties.

This became a consistent problem with my 93R 17HMR after about 200 rounds. Up to 50% of the current Hornady 20gr's are misfires. Changing ammo brands did not help. Usually requires turning the cartridge and several attempts to sometimes get them to fire. The firing pin marks are on the moderate side, but not faint. Not sure what the fix is at this point except to send the bolt back to Savage for repair. A good cleaning and degreasing of the bolt did not solve the problem. A thorough cleaning of the chamber with a bore brush did helped with the stuck case problem that I was experiencing when rounds did fire.

Just a follow up, a friend took the misfire and tried them in his Savage and the bullets went off,
There is a large indent in the casing from his firing pin. I think I will contact Savage to see what they say.

sounds like the bullet not going all the way into the chamber, like a headspace problem. would cause two things to happen, 1. extractor not grabbing rim 2. firing pin pushing bullet forward.

I don't have a failure to eject problem,I'm not sure about the not seating all the way.
Not sure how to check that,and is that something I can fix?

The misfire problem with Savage 93's seems to be a rather common problem based on information I've found on other sites. Some claim all the bolt needs is a good cleaning. I also noted that the rear knob on the my firing pin was lightly brushing the stock when fired, which I thought might be causing the light firing pin strikes. I raised the rear of the action and bedded it to give good clearance, but the misfires continue. I don't think you can adjust the headspace easily on a rimfire barrel.

0 misfires on mine, about 500 rounds now.

I have the same problem with my 17. Sent it to the smith and he put a new firing pin in it and cleaned it. I'm still having misfires. I thought maybe it was the ammo since I bought it in bulk but tried it in another Savage 17 and every one fired. 3 boxes and not a misfire. I really like my rifle but it's about to become a new tent stake. Well, maybe not.

Not exactly what I wanted to hear.I compared my pin to my friends
and the only difference we could see,his seemed looser.My guns only
had about 150 shell thru it,hoping it loosen up,and fixes itself.

I recently had the same problem with my 93R17-TR. The first 500 rounds, or so, were flawless. However, when we had it out on a prairie dogging trip, it started to misfire. By the last day, it wouldn't shoot a round, at all. The ammo wasn't the factor, as it did it with anything I put in it. I read a lot of the comments posted on this forum and others and tried everything I had read, but without success. After a lot of head-scratching and tinkering with the bolt/FP, I discovered that the FP was loose enough in the fired position to suggest that it wasn't getting a firm strike on the cases. I don't know if the metal was soft enough to wear out, or just so close in (or out of) tolerance that it only took so few rounds to put it in this state.

What I ended up doing was to add a little bit of JB weld on the back of the firing pin, where the striker makes contact, then filing it to shape (just a couple hundredths of an inch added, at most). This was only a test and likely a temporary fix, as I'm sure it will eventually wear back down. However, it worked! I fired ten rounds to test it, without incident. I think a more permanent fix would be to make another firing pin of larger dimension in that area, or weld a small bit on the contact point and file it down.

John

Converted my Savage 93 in 17hmr to 5mm rimfire. I am suffering from misfires also. As in your case, ammo
was the first suspect. Rim thickness does vary on my ammo, but I had the headspace tightened up to help cure some of those woes. Gunsmith then tried working on the firing pin, but this project still suffers from light strikes.
A friend converted CZ 17hmr to 5mm. He had to jump through more hoops to get that CZ built, but suffers from no misfire problems. Next step is to overhaul the firing pin & spring... Good Luck with your project.

about 1000 rounds through my 93r17 and 0 misfires. i think i've run through a box of every 17hmr ammo ever made now.

I finally sent my Savage 93R 17HMR back to Savage to repair the misfire problem. I purchased in 2008, so I assumed the warranty had expired. To my suprise it showed up on my door step with a note saying it had been repaired at no charge. They changed out some parts and adjusted the headspace. Thanks for some great customer support.

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I finally sent my Savage 93R 17HMR back to Savage to repair the misfire problem. I purchased in 2008, so I assumed the warranty had expired. To my suprise it showed up on my door step with a note saying it had been repaired at no charge. They changed out some parts and adjusted the headspace. Thanks for some great customer support.

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its hard to consider purchasing a rifle from another manufacturer when the service is like that... rimfire or center. they are awesome.

Inquiring minds would like to know if Savage fixed the problem?

I won't have a chance to check it out for several more days. They claimed it was test fired and the problem was fixed. We will see.

I wonder how they changed the headspace. I didn't think it was adjustable(being that the barrel is pinned), unless of course they replaced parts on the bolt???

I wondered the same thing. I did not know the headspace could be adjusted on a rimfire. It looks like they have replaced the firing pin and bolt handle. Not sure if other internal parts were replaced. Maybe there was enough wear at the base of the bolt handle and on the face of the firing pin after 500+ rounds to cause the misfires to get worse. But, I had misfire problems from the begining with this rifle that I at first attributed to ammo failure. But it continued to get worse until it became a PITA to even use the rifle.

Who knows. It sounds logical enough to me. I'm no gunsmith. I guess we'll know how it all worked out when you give us a report from the range.

As a follow-up, I tried my 93-17HMR over the Holidays. Not a single misfire with 50 rounds verses a unfired round 50% of the time before I sent it in for repair. So thanks to the folks at Savage Arms.

Awesome news. How's it shoot? Glad to hear all worked out ok

It's always been a very good shooter when I do my part. ;D

I was having the same problem for the longest time on my MKII in .17hm2. I also have a 17hmr 93r that never once has misfired out of about 1000rounds. This may sound stupid, but my father in law swapped the bolts out...put the .17hmr bolt in the .17hm2 and vise versa, and neither one has misfired since! not sure what thats about, but it worked for me.

Hi, everybody. I'm a new member from NW IL and I came to this site because I have a 93 .22WMR and It is having the same misfiring problems in this thread- it started off OK but as time goes on it misfires more and more no matter what ammo I use. Otherwise it's a great rifle, last time at the range my best group at 200 yds. was 7/8". I'll try cleaning and lubing the bolt and see if that helps.

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Hi, everybody. I'm a new member from NW IL and I came to this site because I have a 93 .22WMR and It is having the same misfiring problems in this thread- it started off OK but as time goes on it misfires more and more no matter what ammo I use. Otherwise it's a great rifle, last time at the range my best group at 200 yds. was 7/8". I'll try cleaning and lubing the bolt and see if that helps.

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200 yds , 7/8" ? i wouldnt let anyone touch the rifle and deal with the misfiring thing on my own. seriously though, thats phenomenal accuracy! to me atleast....

sounds like most of the problems seen on the rimfires are with the firing pins. be careful with what you lube the bolt. a lot of people won't lube the bolt/firing pins with anything, just keep it clean.

7/8" is pretty good? This is my first bolt action rifle and first time shooting at 200 yards. Hope it wasn't beginner's luck. I decided to send it back to Savage and have them fix it, I'm not that mechanically inclined.

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7/8" is pretty good? This is my first bolt action rifle and first time shooting at 200 yards. Hope it wasn't beginner's luck. I decided to send it back to Savage and have them fix it, I'm not that mechanically inclined.

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take this with a grain of salt, because everyones expectations of accuracy and what is "good" or "great" is open to interpretation.

1" at 100yds is considered MOA[minute of angle] accuracy, which I considered to be acceptable/good. If you were shooting 1/2" @100yds, I consider that good/real good. Anything less than .5 MOA is awesome in my book. I would consider that for all centerfire rifles.

Now most people have a lower level of what acceptable/good/real good accuracy is for rimfires. [largely depending on the caliber] for example my .22lr [semi-auto, skinny barrel, plastic stock], I would be happy with 1" [maybe just a little less than that] at 50yds. now my .17hmr, I get 1" @ 100yds, I'm happy with that, but would hope for less than that on a good day.

I dont have a .22wmr but I would expect roughly the same accuracy as the 17hmr. So to be at 7/8" @200yds, is less than .5MOA. Awesome in my book, especially for a rimfire.