Looking for a scope for my 30-06, I like the 6 power zoom on the 4-24x50 BSA Gold Star. Wondering if anyone has experience with these? Only downside I see is that it's not illuminated.
EDIT. sorry about typo in title
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Looking for a scope for my 30-06, I like the 6 power zoom on the 4-24x50 BSA Gold Star. Wondering if anyone has experience with these? Only downside I see is that it's not illuminated.
EDIT. sorry about typo in title
No, BSAs are not good quality scopes. Do not be fooled by the high magnification range, it'll be hardly useable as the eyebox is uber-tiny and the image unbelievably fuzzy.
Only exception is the BSA Tactical 4-14x44 mil/mil FFP, as it is a Falcon Menace/Primary Arms clone and is surprisingly decent.
IMHO, not being illuminated is "not" a down side. Are they good quality ? Not so much.
thanks for the info. Ill keep looking for something else....
Actually the primary arms I mentioned looks pretty good.
Two much better scopes for a little more money:
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/740...-reticle-matte
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/147...de-focus-matte
I have these two. Love them both.
Southpaw, Don't be fooled by advertising, scope snobs or any hype. Look for a scope that mature gun enthusiast prefer. You don't always need to spend a ton of money to get something durable and fits your needs. If you have an idea of the type of shooting you want to do and the distance let us know if we can help. There are many shooters on this forum that would be glad to help. Nobody here wants to see you make a scope mistake.
What about this Muller 4-16x56AO scope? seems to be decent reviews for the brand. http://muelleroptics.com/mt41650igr can be had for about $180 shipped
Or the Millet TRS 4-16x50 http://www.millettsights.com/scopes/trs/
The other one that looks interesting is the Redfield Revenge 4-12x42. Currently has a $45 factory rebate too. Looks to be made in U.S.A
Mueller is a great scope for that price range.
The Millett is the exact one I linked you to in post #5. Great scope for this price range, especially if you find it on sale, as you usually can at Midway or Natchez Shooters, for around $300 give or take a little. It's made by Bushnell, has a lifetime warranty, and good glass. Drawbacks: very large and heavy. Clicks are kinda mushy, but still accurate. And did I mention large, and heavy? But a good all-around medium-range scope that's at home more so at the range or on a tactical-style build. Kinda over the top for a hunting rig. Not sure what your intended use is primarily?
Edit: here ya go.. Really good deal at this price.
http://www.natchezss.com/product.cfm...8&src=exrbSrch
Also a digital camo edition available.
Just ordered the Mueller. I will try it and see if i even use 10-16x. or if I do or don't like illuminated mil dot etc. For example if I never really use over 12 or 10x etc then i can invest money into a better scope later and not pay for a bunch of magnification i don't use. same with the illumination. Then this one can be sold or become a backup. Then again, this may turn out to be perfect for my needs. will update once I get some shooting done with it.
As i had mentioned in my intro, this is my first hunting caliber AR and first scope for a hunting rifle...
Keep your new scope in real good condition & you may be able to trade up at SWFA if it doesn't work out for ya. They have a pretty good trade in program.
I went thru 3 scopes with my beloved 30.06.
Between frequent trips to the range for some of my marathon '06 shooting sessions and getting bumped around in the swamps, I went thru 1 Simmons cheapo, A Simmons AETEC & a Vortex Crossfire.
After the 2nd return of the Crossfire to Vortex, they traded me up to a Viper.
My beloved '06 has been happy ever since.
PS, the muzzle break I put on 6 months ago made it easier on the scope & my shoulder. Consider it.
Good luck with your project.
PSS - I forgot about the Leupold VX-1 it devoured, too.....
Yes, I would love to thread this barrel and get a factory muzzle brake for itQuote:
Originally Posted by fgw_in_fla
Thanks for the trade up tip. I'll probably just eBay it if it comes to selling it
The Savage factory break is OK...
I put a 4 port on mine. The kind where the back blast knocks stuff off the bench. The RSO usually sticks me down the end of the line when I bring it to the range. Too many whining sissys crying about that blast of warm air & the noise.
Noise at a gun range.....
Imagine that.
1. :focus:
Thanks You.
for a 30 06 savage a NC Star Mark 3 would work just fine aslong as your not running a Muzzle break DECENT glass at a good price, they just dont hold up on the big boys By DECENT GLASS i mean it will work out just fine clarity wize inside 400 yards sun glare can get annoying i just use a paper towel tube as a redneck sun shade i run the mark 3 on my 223, 308, and 204 the swift has a Leupould VX3 and still looking for my 338 Lapua Vortex posibly hope that helps you out
Are you trying to b bait the scope snobs? I did look at ncstar but their to of the line was about the same price as the Mueller. Which seemed a step up quality wise. I did order the $39. Blue dot reflex sight from NcStar to replace the Walther p22 on my AR just to get the green and blue dots. Otherwise it looks just like the NcStar one.Quote:
Originally Posted by RyanMeyerhofer
wasnt trying to bait anyone, i had a NC Star on my 338 Lapua and it didnt hold up that gun is getting a Leupold or a Vortex. what i was trying to say is for the price and inside 400 yards the NC Star works well. it isn't the best in the world by any stretch of the word but it will get the job done on a 30 06
i cant say a bloody word without catching flack.....
nothing personal mind you. im sure others here have a warm spot for 06s also and were thinking what i said.Quote:
Originally Posted by RyanMeyerhofer
Lots of love for the '06 around here. Deservedly so, as it and the men who carried it are the reason we are all free to still own one, and to post on this forum in English. But in all fairness, the subject of Ryan's post was the recoil handling ability, or lack thereof, of NCStar products, not to slam the '06.
2. Get this thread back on topic. :focus:
It depends on the application that you plan on using the scope. For the average hunter it will do the job. The average hunter has no need to dial in for windage and elevation, nor does he need extreme magnification to take game.
For longer range shooting where one needs extreme consistency in dialing in targets, clarity at higher magnification ranges, needs a higher level of rigidity, than no a BSA scope will not cut the grade.
However, these scopes that are designed for longer range shooting do not work too well for hunting applications. Scopes are designed to do certain jobs. Get the scope for the intended application.
I have 2 bsa scopes I received as bonus items from grafs.
I did not even take them out of their boxes.
But when I got them I remember reading the reviews:
http://www.opticsplanet.com/reviews/...le-scopes.html
you be the judge.
well for the (average) hunter who may only get a few days each year for hunting.Quote:
Originally Posted by psharon97
my advise would be have no scope rather than a poor one.
many years back say the early 50s there were very few scopes on hunting rifles.
many of those who had them like me for example didnt completly trust them.
techknowledgy being what it was then you couldnt always depend on seeing thru the things.
fogging when taken from a warm to a cold enviornment was fairly common.
moisture penetration was another problem. for that reason many hunters used mounts that would
allow for the use of the factory sights or an add on receiver sight as i did. there were various types
of mounts for that purpose. with some the scope could easily be removed completly leaving just the
iorn sights. on others you could look under or thru the mount itself for using the iorn sights.
of coarse for many years now techknowledgy has advanced to where fogging and moisture penetration
are rarly seen at least on the better quality scopes. i personaly think inexpensive scopes end up being
more expensive in the long run. due to the fact you will eventually have a drawer full you cant unload.
but thats simply an opinion. i say buy what you think best for your circumstances. but it might be wise
to check out some of those mounts i mentioned. a few days isnt much time when the next few are a year away.
Amen! well said, I follow a very simple rule for most things in life: favor the best of breed!Quote:
Originally Posted by yobuck
I use Nikon Monarch BDC on my hunting rifles, they were 319$ and I bought them for $200s on sale.
The question is do ya need a $2k scope to a buck? or will a $200 Nikon Monarch do the job? or even a $100 simmons whitetail classic?
Will the any of the above fail, the answer is yes.
Scopes fail, period, be it Nikon, Zeiss, Simmons.
I do not trust reviews on sights that s sell the product except for reviews on Amazon by verified purchaser. I just posted a 1 star review to Primary Arms and it was removed in less than 12 hrs. I know a couple welding companies that flood Amazon with bogus reviews to promote their products. The same seems to happen on forums. Those who have never owned the brand like to trash talk it till the cows come home. I just put my BS filter glasses on and look for comments of those who actually own it....Quote:
Originally Posted by Stockrex
wow, I did not know that about optics, *&&^^%$Quote:
Originally Posted by soutthpaw
BSA is low quality low cost optics for those who have a very limited budget
Stockrex, you should send me those unopened BSA scopes. I will be happy to test them out and post back a review. I'll even pay shipping..
southpaw, sure, if you can wait till March, I can part with one, I will pm ya.Quote:
Originally Posted by soutthpaw
Sure thing. Whenever ur ready to part with it just let me know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stockrex
I think this thread has run it's course.