Last of the 12FV?

I ordered a 12FV last week and the Cabelas site said it would be 2-3 weeks for delivery. I am planning on putting it in a Boyd's stock probably, and I thought I might change it over to a detachable magazine or a hinged floor plate. I called Savage customer service this morning to ask about on line ordering of parts etc and was told that that site was down.

I mentioned that that I was considering making this change to the rifle and she asked for the serial number, as usual. I told her that it was on order (back ordered) from Cabelas, and she stated that they weren't going to be made any more. I replied that it was conflicting that Cabelas was still taking orders for it. She put me on hold for a couple minutes and when she returned she suggested that I wait until I have the rifle in my hands before ordering anything because only 12FCVs were going to be made and I might wind up with a rifle that has a detachable magazine!

This really opens a can of worms. Will the price go up? Will a new price be introduced only to new orders? Should I order another one now?

Does anyone have any insight on this situation?

Thanks
Richard

The price will and usually always goes up when something is changed. and not always an upgrade when the change happens. I paid $300 for my left handed axis 4 years ago, and it came with the Accustock. Now it doesn't come with the accustock anymore. and it's $329.00 these days.

I bought a 12FV 22-250 at a great price during the recent sale. I figured if they go on sale again, I would buy another one in .308 since I have acquired some more of the cheap gift cards sold on eBay, which could save me another $50-$70. I was actually thinking about trying a barrel change on the second one, as I have never done that before. I was thinking to myself the other day, that it wouldn't surprise me if that model is discontinued before I have that opportunity, and now I see this thread. I am not too concerned about a detachable magazine.

I think the biggest issue is whether they change over from a top bolt release to a bottom bolt release. One of the main reasons for buying this rifle is for the top bolt release. A top bolt release makes it much easier for an aftermarket trigger and stock. I don't even think the Rifle Basix SAV-2 will work on a bottom bolt release model. If I received a bottom bolt release model when I go to pick it up, I will refuse the rifle.

I don't know if I would trust what you were told. I so often read stuff like that, and the representative seems to be wrong more often than right. I definitely hope she is wrong.

Interesting, I'm curious to see what happens, I have one in 308 on back order. The site has been showing the back order time getting shorter (3-4 weeks at first now 1-2 weeks), but I did just notice that the ship date for all the other models has gone away (although they do still allow you to order them).

I have a 308 back ordered also
First 2 weeks it kept showing limited availability i live chatted twice to be told they don't have an have an expected ship date
Ship date on new orders appears to change on Saturday's

I received an email from Cabela's. I was thinking at first it was my notice that the rifle was ready for pick-up. I am fine with waiting, I just hope it is not a sign of something else.

Cabela's Retail Inc.

World's Foremost Outfitter

One Cabela Drive, Sidney, NE 69160


Dear Customer,


Thank you for your recent order. We are very sorry to inform you that we are

unable to immediately fill your entire order and the merchandise listed below

has been placed on backorder. Order recipient is HUNTSVILLE AL RETAIL.


29-2379 SAVAGE 12FV VARMINT RIFLE MODEL 12FV 22-250REM

Backorder


If you wish for the item(s) to remain on backorder, you do not need to contact

us. Should you prefer not to wait, please contact our toll-free order desk at

1-800-237-4444 or e-mail us at <customer.service@cabelas.com> to cancel the

backorder. For credit card orders, charges are not made until the item(s) are

shipped.


We will do everything we can to get your order to you as quickly as possible.

We sincerely apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused.


Cabela's Retail Inc. - Customer Relations

When did you place your order?

I ordered 02/17/17

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Originally Posted by NicfromAlabama

I received an email from Cabela's. I was thinking at first it was my notice that the rifle was ready for pick-up. I am fine with waiting, I just hope it is not a sign of something else.

Cabela's Retail Inc.

World's Foremost Outfitter

One Cabela Drive, Sidney, NE 69160


Dear Customer,


Thank you for your recent order. We are very sorry to inform you that we are

unable to immediately fill your entire order and the merchandise listed below

has been placed on backorder. Order recipient is HUNTSVILLE AL RETAIL.


29-2379 SAVAGE 12FV VARMINT RIFLE MODEL 12FV 22-250REM

Backorder


If you wish for the item(s) to remain on backorder, you do not need to contact

us. Should you prefer not to wait, please contact our toll-free order desk at

1-800-237-4444 or e-mail us at <customer.service@cabelas.com> to cancel the

backorder. For credit card orders, charges are not made until the item(s) are

shipped.


We will do everything we can to get your order to you as quickly as possible.

We sincerely apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused.


Cabela's Retail Inc. - Customer Relations

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Nic,
Sorry about the additional wait for your rifle. I just ordered mine, in 223, last week and the Cabelas website now lists the shipping time as 1-2 weeks for 223 and 308, instead of 2-3 when I placed the order. I also noted that 22-250 and 204 Ruger now don't list an estimated ship date at all.

It it will be interesting to see what comes out of all this in the end. I do think I would purchase another one if they were on sale, etc, etc.

Richard

Hey,

I have not been able to reply back until now. JM, my order was placed on 02/16/2017......a day before you. I know I saw a 5-8 week estimate on the 22-250 at one point after I ordered. Now it only states backorderable. I am fine with waiting, as I really don't have the time right now to shoot it. I just did not want to miss the sale. Richard, I would certainly buy another if they went on sale for the same price. I would like to rebarrel one at some point, and that would be a good rifle to use.

Nic

Nic,
Rebarrelling was what I had in mind for the second one also, if that ever comes together. I wanted the 223 for an inexpensive rifle that I can shoot cheaply too. I have a bunch of 223 reloading components and I'm already setup for it, so it was a natural. I'm thinking the next one would be a 308 and convert it to 6.5 Creedmoor.

Richard

My initial plan was to take the 22-50 I am currently waiting on and use it in a nicer HS Precision stock that I have in the closet. The action/barrel that was in the HS stock is now in a chassis, and I am not doing anything with the HS stock. After some thinking, I decided I would leave the 22-250 in the plastic stock. I wanted to buy a second 12FV, rebarrel with a bull barrel and use the HS stock for it since I believe it does accommodate bull barrel diameters. I have been thinking .308 or Creedmoor. The Creedmooor is the popular round right now, but I might just stick with .308. Like you, I have all the components and a ton of 30 caliber bullets. I really don't want to stock up for another cartridge. But, like my second rifle plan, that may change as well.

Nic

I like how they wait just shy of 4 weeks to send an email stating it is backordered...

i was hoping to have it by beginning of last week of march but looking like end of march if i'm lucky :(

Hi everyone,

New member here. My backordered 12FV will be my first Savage

I called Cabela's on Monday to change my order from .308 to .223. It will be a range only rifle for me, so I decided to save some money on ammo.

Anyway, the representative I spoke with said they are expecting them to arrive on the 25th. I don't know if that's all calibers, or just the .308's. I assume they will then be shipped to your respective stores. I'm hoping first week of April...

Sprigfan,

Welcome. Thanks for the update. I figured Cabela's submitted a huge order to Savage after the sale. We just have to wait for all that to be sorted out, and that sounds like the case after hearing of your experience. I also think that is one reason the Savage representative the OP talked to was not quite familiar with what was going on, especially since the 12FV is a Cabela's exclusive.

I'm ok with waiting was just hoping it would be about a week sooner than what it's looking like

I have EGW scope base, Burris Signature Zee rings and for the time being topping it with a Cabela's Alpha Scope

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Originally Posted by jmccollumjr

I'm ok with waiting was just hoping it would be about a week sooner than what it's looking like

I have EGW scope base, Burris Signature Zee rings and for the time being topping it with a Cabela's Alpha Scope

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Oh yeah, I know exactly how you feel, especially when you are really wanting to use what you bought. Fortunately for me, in this case, I am not prepared right now to use the rifle. With that being said, I am on month 8 waiting on approval for my suppressor, with no end in sight. Now THAT has me irritated.

You are fortunate that you can at least legally own one. Here in the communist state of Kalifornia, they are illegal!

it is kind of interesting that in Europe, it is considered rude, not to use a silencer. We want silencers on cars, trucks, lawn mowers and motorcycles, why not guns? I guess that is another thread.

I just checked online, and Cabelas is now taking orders (not back orders) for the 223, which according to the norm, would ship,in 5-8 days. We will see.

Richard

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Originally Posted by rckendall

You are fortunate that you can at least legally own one. Here in the communist state of Kalifornia, they are illegal!

it is kind of interesting that in Europe, it is considered rude, not to use a silencer. We want silencers on cars, trucks, lawn mowers and motorcycles, why not guns? I guess that is another thread.

I just checked online, and Cabelas is now taking orders (not back orders) for the 223, which according to the norm, would ship,in 5-8 days. We will see.

Richard

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Their system is quirky at best.... i've watched it for the last 4 weeks i've seen 308 show limited availability over a dozen times

Not that it means anything, for my store, I now notice the .308 and 22-250 rifle on their site state backorderable and a ESTIMATED 1-2 week ship time. The .223 says limited stock and SHIPS in 5-8 days. And, of course, the .204 is just backorderable with no ship times.

Cabela's charged my credit card yesterday, which is supposed to mean the rifle has shipped. No update to my order status yet, however.

I ordered mine online and the store I chose will send it to my FFL. I have received nothing from them regarding the status, but I learned also that my credit card has been charged. From the website, it looks like the warehouse now has 223 and 308 in stock.

My order history now shows the 308 I have on order as shipped.

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Originally Posted by jmccollumjr

I like how they wait just shy of 4 weeks to send an email stating it is backordered...

i was hoping to have it by beginning of last week of march but looking like end of march if i'm lucky :(

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Casmella's reminds me think of the old Lilly Tomlin character.
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My order status also shows shipped for my 223.

Yay! Mine changed too!

Mine arrived at the store and now needs to be shipped to me in CA. Then ten days waiting for the FFL transfer process. At least it is in motion!

Mine's Ready for pickup!

Good for you. Let us know how it looks and shoots!

Picked it up Friday night have scope installed probably be Monday when i take it out

Savage 12FV 308 WIN
EGW scope base
Burris Signature Zee Rings
Cabela's Alpha 3-12x40 scope

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Looks good! That barrel sure looks long, doesn't t it?

It was my understanding that the model 12FV was a Cabelas special, made only for them. I bought two when they were on sale for $349 a while back, and glad I did if it is true that they are not going to be produced any more.

Interestingly, yesterday I was in the local Gander Mountain store that is being closed as part of the re-organization, and saw a Savage model 12FV in 223 sitting on the shelf priced at $699, and I'm thinking if they can get this from wholesalers also, what with that markup it's no wonder they're on the ropes financially.

This got me thinking about a certain other gun store that only lasted 6 months around here, I won't mention the name but it had a reputation for being cheaper than...well, you know. Anyway, they were apparently paying customers to buy guns on sale at Cabelas and then sell to them, which they would then mark up and put on the floor. Couldn't get enough supply to satisfy demand from their distributors so this was their work around, or so said one of the guys I met who was actually doing the buying and selling. Hmmmmm.

I guess it's impossible to over-estimate how much Fox News influenced gun sales the last 8 years. Their constant "fake news" about gun restrictions, green tip bullets, etc, and the resultant long term panic buying it created where a much needed boost for the gun industry, and of course jobs for those otherwise unemployed. That's over now, and layoffs are happening again all around the gun industry. Sales of silencers are plummeting with word that Congress is considering passing the Hearing Protection Act. Until they do, no one wants to spend the extra coin for the permit, and if the bill languishes for a year or two, many of those manufacturers may be gone by the time it passes, ASSuming it passes, of course. More layoffs.

I wonder if Congress is capable of learning what the words "unintended consequences" means. It sure doesn't seem so.

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I guess it's impossible to over-estimate how much Fox News influenced gun sales the last 8 years. Their constant "fake news" about gun restrictions, green tip bullets, etc,

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Be careful now, this could be construed as fake news as well.;)

Not sure where the heck my rifle is. The status changed to shipped on March 22, but still no call or email for pickup.

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Originally Posted by sprigfan

Not sure where the heck my rifle is. The status changed to shipped on March 22, but still no call or email for pickup.

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I had a long range soft gun case that shipped on the same day. 5-8 business days for delivery on average. You could call the pickup line and check that way.

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Originally Posted by SageRat Shooter

I had a long range soft gun case that shipped on the same day. 5-8 business days for delivery on average. You could call the pickup line and check that way.

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Yep I checked that. Says not ready for pickup. It just seems weird to me that a firearm would be in transit for so long.

Made it out to range
Luckily I didn't opt for 20 MOA base
started zero at 25 yards i got it to hit dead center but I'm out of down by reading online 308 should be roughly 3 inches high at 25 yards to be close at 100

The trigger is very nice it still gets me at going off sooner then I'm expecting

Considering the 12FV hasn't been listed on the Savage website since they redid it last fall, you should have known/realized the model had been discontinued. Not sure what the MSRP was on the old 12FV's, but the current site lists an MSRP of $781 for the new 12FCV that's replacing the 12FV. You were considering converting it over to DBM anyway so this just saves you the hassle and will likely save you a little money over buying the gun as a blind mag and purchasing the parts to convert it separately.

the 12FV was a Cabelas exclusive... retailed at $420 for the last couple years. I was never able to find it on the Savage website.

Yep

Cheaper Than Dirt can't go out of business fast enough to suit me. Total gougers during the shortages and useless stores. Glad the one in McKinney didn't last long.

All I can say is I'm very proud of my 223 fv. been working on loads for a while now.

she likes 68gr hornady HPBT, 69gr SMK and 69gr TMK over VARGET.

5 shot groups @100 yds under .500 best to date is .244

these rifles are real shooters......mizzouri

Glad to hear that Mizzouri, as I plan to use the 68 gn Hornady with Varget myself. I have a pretty good supply on hand, left over from shooting high power service rifle.

Richard

Well I finally got my rifle last Saturday. I put a few rounds through it on Monday and was very pleased with the rifle in general, but disappointed that it didn't like my hand loads that I had for my service rifle (too hot!). I also had a box of Black Hills remanufactured 68 grain rounds that did very well. I shot just over twenty rounds and took it home and cleaned it well. It had coppered up pretty good near the muzzle, so I'm glad I quit when I did.

I went back today with more hand loads, this time with 69 gn SMK and did a broad range of loads. The sweet spot seems to be right where the Sierra manual said was good in their testing. So, I've loaded some more and will be back Monday for further testing.

I have a Harrid bipod on it and I'm shooting mostly prone. I don't see the need to do anything with this rifle, other than shoot it and clean it. What a great little gun!

Richard

Seems like the 12FV's are liking the heavier pills. Mine as well likes the 69 SMK hand loads, and it shot quite well with the Australian Outback 69SMK and the Black Hills 68's.