Nice work, is there a set up for the 223 in the works ?
Mike
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Nice work, is there a set up for the 223 in the works ?
Mike
Is it only short action...I know you said it was for the short action, or do they offer it for the long action also?
Okay, Fred, I'll take a frame and a 10 round mag and a inlet job. When do you want me to send the US stock?
Will this also work on the UV stock?
Is there a long action version in the works?
uj
P.S. Dare I ask how long it might take?
I assume you can inlet a B&C A2 Medalist to accept these? If so I will be sending you two.
I am also curious about a long action version. Good work Fred ;)
Me too! Why is it the SA guys have all the fun :) I would love to have a detachable magazine for my LA Savages.Quote:
Originally Posted by lostart
Looks like there is a market for the long action people.
Wow, good old American ingenuity at work. A wonderful thing to see. This is obviously a blessing for those guys who need/want more capacity. The design and execution seem to be of the best order. A long actin version wil be on the way I am sure. Hang in there guys, a genius is at work.
El Lobo
Most definately need a long action model. I would love to have this on my long action centerfeed with the ulitmate varmiter stock!
What is the maximum cartridge overal length that will funtion well in the magazine?
Whose magazines are they. I know Fred is great at machine work and the bottom metal looks it, but sheet metal is a whole different discipline.
uj
Fred,
You list it available for the Choate Utimate Sniper stock, will it also fit the Choate Varminter?
I guess you couldn't make an even larger oblong front hole to fit my J action, huh?
;D
WOW!!! I shoulda checked here first just to confirm that nobody cares about short actions anymore.... ;)
Well, yes....there is plans for a long action version BUT.....until the magazines are totally wrung out, field tested and approved, you won't see anything about it. That's why I kept this under wraps until I had it de-bugged and into production before I cut it loose, somehow I knew this would happen.
.223....not out of the question, but not bloody likely for a long time.
The Choate version will fit either stock, US or UV. I can inlet the Medalist, that's a given, but the only thing I don't know for sure is the depth of the stock in that area and it might be thicker, leaving the frame below the the wood line. Not that it would be a problem, just maybe unsightly, but I'll bet it's pretty close.
The whole idea behind this was to make most of the applications "drop in" fits. Even for a stagger feed, one could use a stock originally for a centerfeed DBM and simply slot the front hole, or remove the pillar. The Choate Tactical stock is a good example: although it is for a new centerfeed DBM, the front hole that is through the aluminum chassis can be slotted back, and now it will fit a stagger feed. The B&C are the same way with the aluminum chassis, you could go either way.
The DBM inlets will vary slightly from different manufactures, so it may be neccesary to tweak things with a dremel.
"J" series.....OK, Frank....yer pushin' it now. It would be possible, but that would be a total custom application.
As to who is making the magazines...I am not at liberty to discuss that at this time, but I will say that they are used on alot of high-dollar custom tactical rigs.
Have I missed something? where are the pics?
Go here for the photos http://savageshooters.com/SavageForu...c,33550.0.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by bodywerks
Did I understand what I read yesterday correctly, these are available to be installed now? What kind of wait time would I be looking at to get a 10rd installed on my B&C A2. I can send it off today if these are ready to go.
Fred, what do I gotta do to get one in .223?????
You guys gotta realize this is part of why the back up on some of the other work and why it will be a long while before the long action stage begins.
other work has to be caught back up and the annual varmint hunter jamboree vacation is also coming up.
Don't expect any instant gratification with getting your stocks inleted!
And you know there will be some that call and want it added to work already there putting them further behind.
Greg, has said it best.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue Avenger
This is why Fred and Mark put in mega hours each week. (More than most people do) R&D takes time, money, and other things. Now imagine tring to do that and a few hundred orders, that people change there minds contunisly.
Fred, I'll be in Ohio in October , I'll come up and talk to you about it. ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by sharpshooter
I think that most of the inquiries are being taken the wrong way. Most of us are entirely grateful, and lets face it, tickled pink, that an item of this sort is becoming available. Again, MOST of us understand the time constraints and effort needed to develop a new product while trying to fill mass amounts of orders. Quality is what matters, which is why Fred is so busy.
Just speaking for myself, when a new product becomes available, I think: Alright! I get to have a large clip for my .243 or .308, or whatever. But wouldn't it be cool to have a 10 rnd for a 25-06? I think that's where most of the questions are coming from and should not be taken as an insult, if that is in fact the case.
NOTE: I have yet to order from SSS, as I am fairly new to this. But I plan to in the near future. A short action build is on the horizon and one of these mags will fit it nicely. Looking forward to it. ;)
Exactly ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by lostart
I know that most are asking questions and no one has a problem with that or takes them as insults. I want long action also.
My point was for that one guy that was going to come on whining that they can't do it tomorrow. or there sold out and they have had one on order for a year. :)
we all know there will be one :)
Can I join the whiners? I want one too.
uj
Quote:
Originally Posted by Uncle Jack
You are already a member ;D :D
Just ribbin ya a bit, just had to do it...before Greg said it ::)
Fred, will these feed an AI round also?
And do you plan to make in the future to match the SS hardware?
The internal length of the magazines are 2.925". Ackley improved catridges feed with no problems. To match stainless steel hardware the bottom metal can be left uncoated, but the latch will still be black.
I have plenty of drop in units at this time, but I can't schedule inletting until mid July.
Sounds really cool, my vote would be the long action Choate Tactical stock inlet ...
When will they be available and will it be a drop in fit for the 10fcp with mcmillan a5?
I have them in stock, and they will fit the McMillan 10fcp.
will it fit my 7.62 x 25 ruger #1 ? LOL
The long action magazines are about 2 weeks away from being in my hands. It will take some time to engineer the the magazine frames, so realisticly because of my schedule, it won't happen until sometime in august. Meanwhile, anybody interested in long action conversions, I will take orders.
The .223 version is still in R&D.
How about a 5 round detach. mag for a 220 20ga slug gun Fred.?... ;D ;)
The magazines look like AICS magazines or their clones. I know of a brand called Accurate, C-Products just came out with them, and there's a third domestic clone brand whose name escapes me. The C-Prod magazine is still new but the other two brands have a great reputation.
If so that's a great deal for a drop in conversion. I have a Rem clone in a Manners stock with the bottom metal that takes AICS mags and have been wanting to share mags with my Savage centerfeed. Before this you were looking at $210 plus inletting for bottom metal from CDI Precison.
Will the 223 version use the same bottom metal?
Will it also use proprietary mags or will it use the AICS 223 mags?
If the mags are proprietary will they be higher capacity - say 15-20 rounds?
Ready to get one on order for my 10PC
Fred,
Any updates on the 223 Version? I am chomping at the bit to get one ordered.
The only part holding things up are the springs and followers, and I expect to have some magazines in a month.
Bad news on the long action version....looks like it ain't gonna happen. The magazines are too long for the frame and would take too much modification to facilitate making them work.
that is terrible news! I wanted a high capacity .25-06AI :(Quote:
Originally Posted by sharpshooter
NOOOO
I had alread started saving up for the the long action version. I was wanting to have my varmiter stock inletted at the same time as a T&T.
Guess I am stuck buying a DBM from CDI.
Can we "Pre-Order" the 223 Version? I have the DBM Stock already, so I just need all the parts and I am set.Quote:
Originally Posted by sharpshooter
Also, do we know the mag capacity for the 223 Version yet?
Hi Savage guru's
when this unit comes out in .223 , would it drop into the H-S PSV 102 stock and fit a Savage model 12 with what appears to be 4.27 centres on the stock screws. NZ is a long way to order the wrong parts :-\
Bump
tag for the .223 for later ;D
How long is the turn around on having them inlet a stock for the bottom metal now a days??
Do we have a mag capacity for the 223 version yet?
Still looking for an update ;D
Hey Fred,
Any word on how the magazines are holding up? Feeding and everything working as desired on production models in the field?
I'm looking really hard at a 12 LRP in 6.5 Creedmoor, and had been thinking about fitting it with a CDI mag kit for AI mags (dang things are bullet proof) but I thought if these Acme ones are holding up, I might give 'em a try...
Take care,
Monte
So far I hav'nt had any complaints about reliability or function. I have found that the follower springs are plenty strong enough and when I discussed this with Kevin Wyatt he stated that they were that way as to resist taking a set.
If I failed to mention this before, these are the same magazines that Les Baer uses on his new "Recon rifle".
I have noticed that the parkerized version of the magazines are a little fuzzy on the finish and a quick scrub with WD-40 and 0000 steel wool will slick them up quite well. I used a 5 rounder on a recent coyote hunt and emptied it twice on multple coyotes, with my biggest complaint of chasing Lapua brass in a snow storm.
The .223 version is scheduled to be available after the SHOT show. They will be 3/4" longer than the 5 rd .308 mag, but will hold 10 rounds.
What is the current wait time for a inlet and installation?
That does raise another question... how much actual inletting is required? For say something like one of the new 12 LRP (essentially the LRPV/DBM in an HS Precision stock)? Or is it essentially drop-in?