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I really had my heart set on a 26", but I can have one shipped to me tomorrow thats 28" long. Bull contour. This rifle will be used for F-T/R and plates 1000+ yds. Am I being silly hesitating because this barrel is 2" longer than planned? Sheesh what a monstrosity hangin off my chassis when compared to my 20" snub nose. First world problems, I know. Thoughts?
Well, if it were me, and I already had a short .308, I might go 28" but in a different caliber. Nothing against the .308, but why not try something different? One of the main reasons I have a .308 (it was the last of about 8 different cartridges/calibers I ever bought) is I wanted a good shooter with a short barrel. If going long, why not try something that really shoots better with a longer barrel? How about some kind of 6.5mm??
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oh, maybe 'cuz you said you want it for F-T/R
Yep, FTR only allows .223 or .308. My next build would be a straight .243 or .300 WM
Ooh ooh; go 28". The FT-R fellers at my range tried talking me into the 30" barrels. I went Shilen select match 26" in 300WM because I'm not shooting FTR and didn't want the extra length. I sure could have used the weight though.
"FR", if you don't mind, where do you shoot up there ?
Thanks...Jim :-)
It's going to be doggone heavy.
But if you're looking to shoot FT-R exclusively/competitively, that'd be the ticket...
FR you will appreciate the weight and length when you shoot it.
Right now I'm having a hard time finding a place to regularly shot beyond 100 yards. I looked into Peacemaker but with my schedule id only be able to use the 1000 yd range once a month if I'm lucky. Im calling 340 Defense today to speak with them, they have 300 yard lanes. Right now I'm using the 100 yard indoor lanes at Elite shooting sports in Manassas. It's getting pretty expensive at $25/hr, I go probably two hours a week for practice. I just finished up a class at bangsteel.com and that was the first time I've shot beyond 250 yards. I'm trying hard to find some local private property to use regularly, and might have something lined up for up to about 300 yards. Just need this snow storm to melt and can go take a look.Quote:
Originally Posted by FW Conch
I bet. Do you have any problems sitting down and slinging 50 rds in a session? Your shoulder I mean. Or is it pretty tolerable for you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Russmerle
Agreed-more weight=bigger muscles. And less recoil.Quote:
Originally Posted by WinnieTheBoom
Did I see you say in another thread you're going Krieger next time? Any advantage over the SSM, all other things being equal?Quote:
Originally Posted by LongRange
im shooting a bartlein on my comp rifle now and can tell you i will only shoot cut rifling barrels from here on out...im going to try a kreiger next on my comp rifle but only because i want to see if some of the things ive heard are true about kreigers...i have a bartlein blank in my safe im going to have chambered in 260AI when i get my reamer...i was going to go kreiger but i already have the bartlein and am VERY impressed with them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Front Royalty
but yes i think there is an advantage...shilens are great barrels ive shot several but the cut rifling barrels are better IMHO...just know that a kreiger or bartlein is going to cost you about $600 bucks for a blank and chambering...southern precision is doing bartlein small shank prefits but im pretty sure hes backed up.
Probably so, as I have an order in for trueing a Rem 700SA single shot and 6MMBR remage bartlein barrel and don't expect delivery until sometime late March.Quote:
Originally Posted by LongRange
thats not to bad though...and thats why i buy my own reamers...i take a barrel and my action in and have it back in 3 days then i set the head space myself.
You mean there are more things for us to spend money on?!?! This little hobby of mine will probably have me selling my dirt bike and skydiving gear. Ive been doing both for a couple years and have managed to stay in one piece so far... time to quit while I'm ahead. Like any hobby, this ish aint cheap.Quote:
Originally Posted by LongRange
A street legal dirt bike can be a handy thing to have for finding shooting/hunting spots. Just sayin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Front Royalty
And so could a skydive with a rifle strapped to my chest! HahahahaQuote:
Originally Posted by yobuck
sell or trade the wife and kids first...i did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Front Royalty
honestly if ida known when i started this i would of started with a custom action...i love my savages dont get me wrong but in the long run i would of saved myself a lot of money.
I have a bull barrel on my 308 that's 28" and I don't have any issues with it on the bags when shooting. If you find you don't like it, you can always have it chopped and re-crowned. :smile-new:
Skydivng with a rifle strapped to your chest to a drop zone with a waiting dirtbike....Quote:
Originally Posted by Front Royalty
The thought has crossed my mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by Russmerle
Just a thought: with the 28" you may want to check your total weight. F/tr has a lower limit than F Open. (18.2 ??)
When I built a new wood stock for my F/TR .223 with 28" bull barrel, it came in at 17.9 when checked at a match.
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Originally Posted by Texas Solo
My first question was "how much does that thing weigh???" I'm at 13# now, so I have 5# and change to play with, but yes: sage advice!
Pulled the trigger on this today. Should be here this week, when load development will begin!
Hey man I just moved to Springfield, VA and I'm also looking for places to shoot in the NOVA area. I'm hoping to check out the Quantico range one of these days. I'll let you know how it turns out. I've never shot any centerfire rifle matches but I'd like to get into one and see how it goes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Front Royalty
I plan on joining 340 Defense this spring, they are remodeling their 400 yard range. I'm interested in F-T/R and any paper punching beyond 100 yds. Let me know how quantico turns out, Ive never been.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrazy-Chris
have a 30" bull barrel on my lrpv in 308 and just pulled thr trigger on a 28" bull barrel in 6.5 creedmoor today for my f open class rifle
here are shots 11-15 shot during barrel break-in
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...ng_shilen1.jpg
and shots 6-10 all 5 shot groups shot during a down pour at 100 yards wish i didnt have the fliers in each set
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...ds_shilen1.jpg
i broke it doing
1 shot clean
1 shot clean
3 shots clean
then shot those in 5 shot clean after that i went to 300 yards and did 10 shots clean it rained so hard it ruined the fclass target i had set up for grouping .
You got a hammer there...I've shot out 5 shilen barrels and every one has produced groups like yours...great shooting.
Ive only had a chance to fire 10 rds looking for pressure signs. Got 30 rds whipped up for OCW and may have found a local property to get out to 900 yds. I'm thinking OCW results will be better monitored between 200-300 yds. After that Ill be on to depth adjustment but the 10 I shot so far at 100 yds were 1 ragged hole so harmonic interference is definitely reduced when barrel rigidity is increased. I'm curious to see what happens with OCW, as I have a feeling POI vs POA variance will be drastically reduced when compared to my OEM 20" light varmint contour barrel.
Shoot your OCW at 100yds you will get better data.
Interesting. Not doubting you at all, as your experience dwarfs mine. Any particular first hand experience would be appreciated, what have you noticed?Quote:
Originally Posted by LongRange
Shooting at 200+ yards can and will introduce to many other variables,wind and shooter to name a few...unless you are I very good shot and can hold extremely steady stick to 100yds your going to see what you need to there and when you find a load that shoots as good as you do or as good as you want it to shoot that load at 2-3-400yds and see how it holds up.
ive shot just about every kind of load development you can think of and can tell you if you follow the OCW to the T it's the fastest way to find a load...take your time and don't get in a hurry.
Gotcha. Id bet drop variance from charge to charge could be an issue as well at those distances. Good info!