About lost it at the range!

It was open range and was helping out an Airman break-in/sight-in his new rifle. Too many crazies despite 2 range safety officers.

Anyways, I was watching a guy shooting a Remington 7400 in .30-06 at a small target at 200 yards with nothing but the good old elbow support. Not really sure how he managed to hit the backing but apparently he was ~ 4" high but ran out of down adjustment on his elevation. He was trying to force the coin slot on a Leupy. Told him he bottomed out because of his see-through scope mounts.

He grabbed a pair of gloves and a vise grip off his truck and start adjusting his scope. It hurts too much to watch so I left.

Wow. What kind of person does that. It obviously hit a mechanical stop. I hope it wasnt a very expensive leupold because i doubt theyre going to warranty that and i DEFINATELY hope it wasnt someone elses rifle.

I have seen so many crazy things in ranges but I dont offer advice anymore unless the person ask or looks like they want it.

I think the worst thing I have seen was this guy at the right end of the fire line having problems with his ak or was it an sks (been too long). The rifle has jammed and he was trying to open the bolt so he follows to put the fully loaded (not that it makes a differende if it was empty) rifle in his lap with the muzzle pointed to the left....... The amount of cursing that follow from the shooters should have gotten this guy attention... NOPE, he just looked at everyone in disgust and continue to tinker with the rifle in his lap. I took my stuff and left....

You can't fix stupid.
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But you can run away from it if your lucky.
Between retarded range officers in panic because someone is approaching the line with a slung rifle that is not cased or an imbecile waving around there malfunctioning whatever.........You will never see me at a "proper" range, shooting with people I do not know..........Never again.

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You can't fix stupid.
You will never see me at a "proper" range, shooting with people I do not know..........Never again.

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I wish I had that option but it is not possible at this time. In a few years I might be able to sell this house and get a little place in the woods. One of the goals is for me to be able to have my own shooting range.

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I wish I had that option but it is not possible at this time. In a few years I might be able to sell this house and get a little place in the woods. One of the goals is for me to be able to have my own shooting range.

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Yep, that would be the ultimate.

I have belonged to a number of shooting clubs around the country and have witnessed some bad behavior. A few of those observations are as follows:

The guy who brings his dog to the range and lets it run loose, including out in front of the firing line.

The guy who’s too lazy to put up a target at 300 yards so he shoots his Mosin-Nagant at a rock on the berm, frequently shooting over the top.

The guy who shows up with a .50 BMG caliber rifle and blows multiple holes through the steel gongs.

The guy who goes down range to change his targets, and then runs out of sight behind the target berm to take a pee.

The two guys who showed up drunk and burned up all their ammunition attempting to sight in, and failed. Then they got mad at the gun complaining that it was a piece of junk.

The guy who attempted to open his frozen bolt by beating on the bolt handle with a big rock, and broke the rock.

And my personal favorite...the “Bench Hog”. This is the guy who thinks that he is entitled to do anything he wants and spreads his stuff out on two or three shooting benches, no matter how busy the range may be. This is also the guy who becomes irritated when other shooters request to go down range.

These are my observations over many years of membership at a number of clubs. 99 percent of the members have been good common sense folks with just that 1 percent making things unpleasant or difficult at times for the rest of us. I suspect it’s that way in most anything we do in life.

Thank god I have my own place that I can shoot out 1300 yards. All by myself don't have to worry about any crazies.

I'd say 99f% of our members are pretty good following the rules, safety and are mindful of other shooters. For example, when someone wants to go down range to hang, check or retrieve targets everyone on the line will give the all clear, actions open and no one handles a firearm. By the same token before firing a round they'll look to see if everyone else is behind the line and if they have their ear protection on.

But, we do have our version of Comedy Central! I have 31 pieces of 30-30 brass. The guy who fired them would shoot, adjust his scope, shoot again, adjust, shoot....but not ne shot was one paper at 50 yards while he was instructing two other guys how to sight in a rifle!:p

Another time a guy couldn't chamber his ammo. He was trying for all he was worth to get the bolt closed. After awhile he grumbled "*&%#$^@ Remington bullets"! To make a long story short he was trying to chamber 280 Rem ammo in a 270Win. When told him 280 and 270 weren't the same, "Is too, its just a bigger bullet. Don't you think I know what I doing!" ( No, I never "Thought" that at all.:p)

If I felt like typing I'd tell the tale of "String Bean" and his 300 UM, a scope, a bloody beak and paper towels soaked in Butch's. Its a classic!

Bill

I loudly proclaim how intelligent I am all the while openly defining my ignorance.
I assume he really didn't want you to answer his question, "Don't you think I know what I'm doing".

Seen a guy shooting handguns at the range once. I was facing at the rifle target shooting groups back towards the pistol range, they pulled up seemed like nice folks after ensuring they had their "ears" in I proceeded shoot wait 5mins shoot. Once they were all set up (man and a women) I noticed he'd grabbed his targets I cleared my weapon and politely waved him to the targets as I took a break. He acknowledged and went down range.
He came back gave me the thumbs up while me and my shooting buddy were sharing BS. Back behind the rifle I go to finish my testing. I fired the first round and as I was filing my brass and grabbing another loaded cartridge I hear bang, bang.......bang-ding!* SON-of A :$;@:' I think I just shot myself.... My shooting buddy and I look at each other with the WTH face, clear my weapon and go to his aid... Sure enough jacketed hollow points out of a handgun at 30yards at a flat steel target no good. He caught the shrapnel didn't hit anything significant. After finding out he was ok they decided to leave we stayed finished out shooting. If he hadn't of left we most definetely would have. I explained to him the 25 signs and the ill effects of jacketed bullets on flat steel. "I'm not saying harm the unsmart, I'm just saying we need to remove all warning labels and let things work themselves out for a while"

This is not funny, but here it goes. I had a couple set up next to me and proceed to set up 12" targets @ the 50 yard berm (first mistake). They needed to borrow my stapler as our range uses plywood backboards. They told me they just bought a new pistol (glock 9mm or a 40) and was going to try it out. I asked if they had experience handling semi handguns. The acted insulted, so I kept doing my thing.

I noticed they came back and didn't say anything. After seeing "blood", I had to investigate. It turns out he held my stapler backwards and he put a staple in his right forehand. It had to have hit one of the bones, or he must have hit a big vein.

Anyway, it was obvious they both were quite embarrassed by this incident. Instantly I said it's time for me to load up and leave. As I started to do so, his wife brought my stapler back while wiping the blood off of it. She thank me and wanted to know if I would assist them on their next visit.

Trying not to laugh, I said sure, just let me know and I will be glad to show both of you how to handle and use your weapon, as long as they listened. To my surprise, they did call and I did help them. They had different attitudes and were very humble. One was a Pharmacist, I don't know the others profession. Obviously it didn't involve shooting a pistol.

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The two guys who showed up drunk and burned up all their ammunition attempting to sight in, and failed. Then they got mad at the gun complaining that it was a piece of junk.

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PS: I have bought several rifles very cheap at the range because the above. Everyone of them were tac drivers. One person saw me shooting his old rifle at the range and he asked how that piece of junk was shooting. He walked down to set up his target, I told him which target to look at, it only had 3 holes in it. A dime covered all three shots. Not kidding, he walked back and loaded his stuff up and never fired a shot. I haven't seen him since.

Well, now that I'm rested here is the saga of "String Bean".

Another old goat and I were at the range when we saw a vehicle pulling in with a brush painted camo job,loud exhaust, rattling and pretty sure by the sound of it it was only hit'n on six of it's eight cylinders. String Bean had arrived, dressed head to toe in well worn camo. He is maybe 6'-5", as skinny as a rail and probably tips the scale at 130-140 pounds. He reaches in the bed of his his truck and pulls out a rifle wrapped in a blanket.

His first words out of his yap, "This is a 300 Winchester Ultra Magnum, the most powerful rifle made. I don't shoot deer under 500 yards". OOOOOK!

SB hangs a target on the 100 yard backer, pulls a sweatshirt out of his ride then rolls it up in a ball for a rest....he's ready to do battle with a piece of vicious man eating piece of paper.

Now picture being tall, setting on the seat and his rifle down low almost touching the shooting bench his upper body was bent to almost at 90 degrees. SB touches one off. His head goes back and his hat flies off. When he turns he has a nice little gash on the bridge on his beak!

SB asks if we have a screwdriver, he needs to move his scope forward so the scope doesn't smash him in the face. I gave him one, he moves the scope and fires round number two..

Now the gash is a little wider, deeper and leaking pretty good so I pulled a paper towel out of my cleaning box ( probably with Butch's on it) and handed it to him to mop the blood. He tears a small piece of it off, sticks it on his nose and moves the scope forward again.

Shot number three. Now the gash looks like it will need stitches. He replaces the red target dot on his nose with another piece of towel and moves the scope a third time. Shot number four he escapes further injury or at the best well could tell. By this time the towel was soaked and dripping blood!

With that SB proclaimed success, packs up up his "gear" and as he is drive'n off yells "See you guys next year" , a piece of red towel still stuck on his nose

BTW, he had two shots on paper about 8" apart.

Bill

And the worst part is that all these people reproduce!:confusion:

One thing happened to me at my local range. On my left was a guy shooting a shotgun, when it didn't fire, he tried to tinker with it facing to his right which was myself. I moved back and stared at him, he saw me and he carried on doing his thing. After he got sorted and range went cold, i packed and left. Therr are days when everyone shooting are great, sometimes all the idiots decide to come at the same time.

My favorite trip to the range, was the time my daughter and I were at a Game and Fish Public Range ( State Operated ) two couples showed up, husband wife couples we assumed, neither speaking English, both couples had just bought pistols and were there to shoot for the first time in their lives, it got bad real quick, and we left.

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Yeah, peep that dont speak English knows nothing about gun safety or guns....

I was at a local range and a young woman was shooting a .380 and after each shot she rested it under her chin off safe and ready to fire. I sent the range officer over to stop it. How can anyone be that stupid.

Dang - near "mind blowing" how stupid some people can be!

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How can anyone be that stupid.

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Some things come naturally! There is a old saying, "Time wounds all heels"

Bill

Up until a few days ago I thought all people knew and more importantly understood the rules.
The range was closed, folk were forward at their targets, I was on the mound when a chap picked up and started to toy with his rifle.
I told him to drop the weapon and stand away, he stared at me as if I was from Mars and stood his ground.
A much younger and less polite fellow physically disarmed him.
I went home.

I think I saw that scope on ebay......

Yes, some people should not own or operate any type of gun. I have to admit, I laughed at a couple of these posts. I'm a NRA Match Director and RSO with over 30 years of range experience in both the military and civilian law enforcement I'm sure I haven't seen it all, but here are a few of mine.

1. When I give the range brief prior to every match I make it a point to "point" to the down range direction and the "not the down" range direction. The looks I get from some shooters still makes me shake my head.

2. I'm working with a couple Active Duty troops introducing them to 500 yard F Class shooting. All is fine until we have projectiles flying over the top of us breaking branches off the trees. All three of us are combat Vets (Army) and it's far from being the first time we've taken fire. Between the three of us, over 70 years of shooting / training experience. The shooting stops. I go over the the range next door, a city police range, and explain my concerns. It turns out they were shooting at a "car target" and the rounds / buckshot skipped off the car and went our direction. I contacted the Chief Range Officer of the department the next day. The car disappeared that day.

3. We had a shooter / member brings his rifle to the range to sight in for deer season. After the second shot, it was clear the shooter was having extraction issues. I walked over and asked if he needed help. It turns out, he was shooting 7mm-08 out of a 7mm Mag. When I explained the difference, he looked lost. His response.... "They're both 7mm, it shouldn't make a difference". He's no longer a member of our club.

4. There was an incident at a range I inspected. A father was showing his son how to shoot his .380 pistol. They finished their session and was preparing to leave the firing line. The father attempted to clear the pistol. He rotated the pistol, pointing it toward the right.... directly in line with the firing line and worked the slide, subsequently pulling the trigger. He forgot to drop the magazine. He shot his son in the stomach. Son survived. Ugly incident.

I could go on forever. The point of issue.... regardless of what type of range, private or public, situational awareness is a must.

See you at the range.....

Ken

I had just arrived at a local gunshop/range just moments after they were hosing the blood off the cement floor. I asked the range guy what happened. He said a guy was shooting an Ithaca model 37 pump gun and after shooting 2 rounds the magazine chain fired all the slugs at once blowing the gun apart and destroying the mans hand and arm with schrapnel everywhere. It is horrifying hering all the storys but here is another one. A young lady showed up with her shiny new .308 auto. The range guy watches her load up and figures all is well. He looks the other way for a short while and turns back at the raving beauty and sees her fire one , then rest the barrel under her chin with her finger still on the trigger. He waits till she shoots and goes over to stop her from doing the obvious. He says to her that he doesn't want to have to clean her brain matter and blood off the insulation they had in the ceiling. She says what do you mean. He explains to her resting the gun under her chin with your finger on the trigger is totally unsafe. She obliged but was clearly embarrassed. I can not believe that people do what they do, maybe its television or something that has dumbed down America. Another time I was there we got an all clear so a bunch of us went down to check our targets and I was at a hundred and gunfire erupted at the pistol area which was only 10 tables away. People started screaming for him to stop. He finally did. It turns out he thought we were far enough to the left and in his mind it didn't matter. They asked him to leave and not come back till he learned to be safe.

I would say the worst people at our range is the police. They not only are terrible with guns but you cant tell them a thing because "I carries one all the time". They tear up more targets then anyone too. They qualify with m16's and they leave all there mess laying around. Then they go down with shotguns and destroy the target stands at like 5 feet. Idiots. One time they paid for there yearly qualifing day. The next day they put a stop check on there payment. They are the biggest crocks around

We had the same issue with LE at one of the ranges i went to years ago, they shoot up everything at close range with shotguns and tear up backers boards

We had some bozos shoot up our steel plates in one of the pistol pits with AR's and AK's that the cowboy action shooters use.
Usually the gun club I go to is empty or the people are pretty decent.
I went to a range in Seattle once, that was scary!

Here's the range I used to shoot at until I had too many close calls. This is a US Forest Range in SC.
* Others shooting into my targets.
* Others walking downrange when it's hot.
* Weapons handling when cold range.
* Leaving trash all around which includes TVs, glass, and everything under the sun.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reOdU61GWNI

I guess I am lucky. I have only been to one formal range. The rifle range was 100 yards! I have 200 yards right in my backyard. I can drive 3 miles to my cousins hayfield and shoot 530 strait accross, and 700 if nobody is at the turkey houses. I could still shoot then safely but I just dont like it! Alot of things I used to take for granted.

the biggest problem we have is the dill hole that shows up and wants to talk all day and never shoots..what an ass..

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This is not funny, but here it goes. I had a couple set up next to me and proceed to set up 12" targets @ the 50 yard berm (first mistake). They needed to borrow my stapler as our range uses plywood backboards. They told me they just bought a new pistol (glock 9mm or a 40) and was going to try it out. I asked if they had experience handling semi handguns. The acted insulted, so I kept doing my thing.

I noticed they came back and didn't say anything. After seeing "blood", I had to investigate. It turns out he held my stapler backwards and he put a staple in his right forehand. It had to have hit one of the bones, or he must have hit a big vein.

Anyway, it was obvious they both were quite embarrassed by this incident. Instantly I said it's time for me to load up and leave. As I started to do so, his wife brought my stapler back while wiping the blood off of it. She thank me and wanted to know if I would assist them on their next visit.

Trying not to laugh, I said sure, just let me know and I will be glad to show both of you how to handle and use your weapon, as long as they listened. To my surprise, they did call and I did help them. They had different attitudes and were very humble. One was a Pharmacist, I don't know the others profession. Obviously it didn't involve shooting a pistol.


PS: I have bought several rifles very cheap at the range because the above. Everyone of them were tac drivers. One person saw me shooting his old rifle at the range and he asked how that piece of junk was shooting. He walked down to set up his target, I told him which target to look at, it only had 3 holes in it. A dime covered all three shots. Not kidding, he walked back and loaded his stuff up and never fired a shot. I haven't seen him since.

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I sold my brand new Dick Weber bowling ball to a friend at the bowling alley because I couldn't hit the pins but I did hit my ankle 3 times in one night and it hurt so bad I had to quit. Ball, case and shoes for 15 bucks and a Budweiser. Never looked back...piece of crap bowling ball. :crutch: :becky:

Last month I let a fellow shoot my pistol. He muzzle swept me with it loaded. Not fifteen minutes later he yelled at somebody for muzzle sweeping him.

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Last month I let a fellow shoot my pistol. He muzzle swept me with it loaded. Not fifteen minutes later he yelled at somebody for muzzle sweeping him.

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Twice in fifteen minutes........... find a new place to shoot before there comes a day that everybody doesn't make it out alive.

All this negativity. Heres something humorous. When I was 17 I skipped on senior skip day and went to sight in my .22. I was the only one there. About an hour in 2 guys come and start shooting at 25 yards with HK MP5s with red dots. I overheard them talking about drugs and got a little nervous. We declared cease fire to check targets. they looked at me and said aren't you supposed to be in school? I said I'm sick. (insert fake cough) they looked at my target and bet me i couldn't do it again at 50 yards. I'll take that bet. We got back they started watching my target with binos. I got bored and started blasting my clothes pins holding my target up.

We all have at least one horror story ending in ......... packed up and left.

1. I have two local outdoor ranges. One has several range officers on duty at any given time, the other has semi conscious R.O.'s at any given time. I went ONCE to the other range, watched what was going on after I paid my fee and before I unpacked and observed barrels going left and right. I never unpacked and never went back.
2. At the "safe" range, I am sitting there at my bench. To my right, a couple in their 50's-60's (my age more or less) come in and the wife sits down and hubby unpacks, out of the Savage shipping box, a brand new .22. He points it my way while unpacking and I ask him to keep the muzzle downrange (politely). He does so and says I shouldn't worry since he is an expert hunter and is showing his wife how to shoot since it is her first time. I have my right eye on him and not my sights since I am wary. He loads the magazine, but jams it so that no more than one round goes in. I ask him to step aside (to not embarrass him in front of his wife) and tell him the round is jammed in backwards and round facing upwards. I still can't figure out that one but wife unjams it herself. He then loads up the ten rounds and tries to insert the magazine. He tries that backwards, as well. By then, I had already informed the R.O. closest to us to keep an eye open. The expert starts shooting and encounters a jam. He swings the muzzle my way and I went over backwards with my ass hitting the ground. I got up after a few choice words about where he could insert the muzzle while unjamming and I start to pack up. R.O. told him to pack up under supervision, go to the office for a full refund and to please not return.

I was once shooting next to a guy who had a coin in his turret after every shot for about 30 minutes straight. I look over during a break and say... Having a hard time? He says "yea this **** thing is all over the place and none of my adjustments are working". I get up and walk over and notice that he has mounted the scope 90 degrees out of whack to where the windage adjustment is on top. I hated to tell him, because I knew he would be embarrassed, but he was a good sport and laughed it off. I loaned him my hex key set to fix it. He told me he was happy I discovered it before he marched into the gun shop and demanded they take their piece of junk scope back... lol

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It's rough. They have a good 500 yard range, but you need to "qualify" for it. That requires several acts of God and it will never happen. So I go there and hate it. Public 200 yard range only. All other ranges off limits to everybody except range ownership.

Rio Salado in Arizona in case anybody wants to know which range to avoid.

I am thinking one day I should just start using the range. I'll probably lose my membership doing it, but they are crooks that won't allow members to shoot anyway.

I figured I could share this ridiculousness that happened today.
Went to the local range to shoot the 440 yard target. There was already a high schooler there shooting a "tacticool" AR-10 that had every attachment possible hung on it. I started unpacking my things while he was shooting. He got done with a mag and he let me run down and set up a target. I give him the thumbs up and I take my first shot and am about to put the next shell in when the kid yells "PULL!" I then look over to see him open fire at 4 geese about 50 feet up in the air. As I take cover I hear a siren as a police officer has her gun pulled aiming at the kid. He was arrested for a list of things and his weapon was confiscated... I went home after that.

Wow! Seriously? I've seen and done some things from the dumbazzed category... but ho da hey mofo got what he asked for!

This is the first time that anything like that has happened usually the range is pretty good. The only problem that I've encountered there is getting the guys with tactical defense shotguns and ARs off the pistol range but to much of a hassle. It will definitely make me think about going back anytime soon.

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The only problem that I've encountered there is getting the guys with tactical defense shotguns and ARs off the pistol range but to much of a hassle.

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We have a couple like that, they think the target backer 2X4 frames are fun to shoot in half on the 15-25 yard ranges. I've already rebuilt them on a Thursday evening work night and they were shot up by Sunday morning. We let be known anyone caught will have a choice, replace the materials and rebuild them on their time and their expense or their membership is kaput.

Bill

I am blessed to have a close friend who enjoy's shooting as much as me. This is where we play.

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I stopped going to the range after some kids on the pistol range thought it was funny to lob some rounds at me on the rifle range... PTSD is a mofo! Luckily no one got hurt. I agree though, no more public ranges for me!

It just really sucks that a select few have to make it a bad experience. It would be a dream if I had a 600 yard range in my backyard but the most I have is 100 and even that it's a bit of a stretch because I'm shooting from the ditch in the front yard

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Yep, that would be the ultimate.

I have belonged to a number of shooting clubs around the country and have witnessed some bad behavior. A few of those observations are as follows:

The guy who brings his dog to the range and lets it run loose, including out in front of the firing line.

The guy who’s too lazy to put up a target at 300 yards so he shoots his Mosin-Nagant at a rock on the berm, frequently shooting over the top.

The guy who shows up with a .50 BMG caliber rifle and blows multiple holes through the steel gongs.

The guy who goes down range to change his targets, and then runs out of sight behind the target berm to take a pee.

The two guys who showed up drunk and burned up all their ammunition attempting to sight in, and failed. Then they got mad at the gun complaining that it was a piece of junk.

The guy who attempted to open his frozen bolt by beating on the bolt handle with a big rock, and broke the rock.

And my personal favorite...the “Bench Hog”. This is the guy who thinks that he is entitled to do anything he wants and spreads his stuff out on two or three shooting benches, no matter how busy the range may be. This is also the guy who becomes irritated when other shooters request to go down range.

These are my observations over many years of membership at a number of clubs. 99 percent of the members have been good common sense folks with just that 1 percent making things unpleasant or difficult at times for the rest of us. I suspect it’s that way in most anything we do in life.

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Well whats wrong with using a rock if you forgot your hammer lol?

Got to love the "Bench Hog".
I go to the range today and there are 10 tables and 4 guys, no room for me.
Guess I'll try again tomorrow.

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Got to love the "Bench Hog".
I go to the range today and there are 10 tables and 4 guys, no room for me.
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Somebody would have to move. That's ridiculously rude on their part.

Wow.
Reading some of these stories are a bit frightening.
At the public range I go to, lately I notice many wanna-be's, mall ninjas and plain 'ol scary people that I believe should be allowed to be in the same county as a gun, let alone shoot one.
Sometimes it's difficult to focus on the shot when I'm trying to make sure I don't GET shot.
The RSO's at the place are a great bunch of guys. Some day's they all look like they need a stiff drink by 1030hrs.

I recall one of them getting into an argument with a know it all that carried his loaded rifle to the set up area - even though there's signs everywhere stating loaded weapons on the firing line ONLY. I had a hard time keeping a straight face when the RSO told the guy "if I wasn't working right now I'd knock you on your a**" with his boss standing there.
The know -it -all was told to pack up & leave & don't come back.

Just one of the many reasons I like my own private place to shoot.

The range scares the dog poop out of me. Ninja want'a bees seem to rule. Lucky to hit a target at 25 yards but got all the toys!
In my area we went for 12-15 years without a rifle range then a local dealer built a darn nice range. Of late I stared getting into bench rest shooting. On Thursday mornings about ten AM there is a group of well healed fellow old farts who get together, They are hand loaders, chronograph equipted, serious shooters. They are really knowledgeable, nice, helpful and fun guys. I told them to watch out for me I'm not worth a flip at this. They said sit down gear up and we will instruct you and help in any way we can. GREAT bunch of guys for sure.

I have gone out on a few Saturdays I sit and watch the line/benches in shock and awl. I watch all then find the experienced guys and sit in. A couple of times I have gone paid admission and never unloaded my gun just ask for a rain check and return on Thursdays AM. Thanks god for those old guys with experience, knowledge, and patients.

I was at the range this spring. When I pulled in two guys were shooting at the 600 yd. benches. The gun they were shooting was rocking the roof. 300 weatherby maybe. It was loud. I was playing with some loads for my fcp-sr in 308. I got set up, and strapped on a Magnettospeed 2. One of the guys comes over asking about it. I gave him the specifics about. During the talk the other guy walks over, and says Magnettos are scrap for every reason you can think of. Ok what ever. They walk back to the other end of the range where Mr know it all pulls out a standard chrono. He asks for a ceasefire to set it up. The slope at that end of the range is way too steep, but that didn't stop him. After he's done he calls all clear, and I fire a few rounds. He lets go with the elephant gun, and the round goes straight through the instrument pack on the chrono. Plastic everywhare. His buddy takes one look at me, and busts out laughing so hard I thought he was going medical attention. Mr know it all glares at him for a second or two, then looks at me and screams "don't you say a f*****g word." All I could do was smile. You can't buy that kind of amusement. Be safe all.