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I too had the crooked stock from the factory. I tried to bend it strait with a heat gun as I have others and it snapped in half with little force. I then ordered the Boyds Featherweight Thumbhole and tried to fit it...same as y'all. I put two washers on top of the pillars and filed down the mag about 3mm and it fits now. I tried sanding the stock with little luck with the mag or safety.
The stock came in rougher shape than I thought, gouges and scratches and then this fitment issue. Disappointed. I too waited on a CS callback as well. On a better note, this stock makes the bmag feel like a real gun now!
Very sad.
So here is the mag, sanded the clip almost 2mm with small bar file. No loading issues so far and no slop
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http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...psulsxcrwy.jpg
so you can see where I had to inlet the stock with a woodcutting bit on a Dremel.
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...pszpu47nzf.jpg
And where I sanded the channel for the trigger adjustment and safety
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...pss1l6htzt.jpg
fix one thing but on to another. Slightly crooked and firmly touching the forend. This sucks
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heres some of many gouges. And the stock fitted for now
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pictures taken on a potato and posted on iPad so sorry for the crappiness.
Would it work with a washer on the action screw instead of on top? I thought about shimming the front mag mount so it was lower before I filed the mag latch. I have the rimfire hunter stock and didn't have to use any washers
I have posted this on other places:
Not that is NOT the problem. Like he said every B.Mag the stock orients to the left.
When you torque the front action screw 1st then the rear action screw it twists the action (to the left) or the stock (to the right).
If you snug or partially torque the front screw to say 25in/lbs then the rear to 50in/lbs (the actual spec) then the front to 50in/lbs it doesn't do this or it does it very very little.
I do not know if it effects POI I just know this procedure changes how the stock appears to be warped.
Well if you put a washer on the action screw itself below the pillar, it just essentially makes the screw shorter. You are actually trying to push the action up out of the stock to gain clearance while still having a firm bed.
I attempted to shim the mag mount and to file the stock, but the stock is already thin there so this is the easiest fix. Plus, I'd rather screw up a $21 mag versus a $99 stock.
Matt, I will try and lend a little encouragement. 1st off Savage's spec of go/no go accuracy for the B.Mag is 1.5" groups at 100 yards. Ok maybe that isn't a tack driver per say but it is more than enough to take down a woodchuck, coyote, bobcat or a prairie dog.
Also bear in mind that when someone has a good experience with a company or product they tell under 5 people. A bad experience they tell 10 or more. Add that the internet can blow things up considerably.
Has Savage had some issue with the B.Mag, yes. Do they opening admit it, no. Do they take care of the consumer, YES.
My 1st B.Mag was an excellent shooter. Sub-MOA at 50yds & 100yds with 25gr ammo. Sometimes MOA or a little bigger at 100yd with 25gr buy always under 1.5"
20 grain was a different story. At 50yd it would shoot slightly over MOA to just under. At 100yd I could get MOA but mostly it was 1.5" or so.
The rifle is only going to shoot as good as the ammo. Hopefully this year or next there will be a non-Winchester branded/loaded 17WSM ammo OR that Winchester will start taking more care loading the ammo as the ammo crunch on 2013 winds down.
Until then, shoot it.
I know some of the issues with the safety functioning was from not using the stock pillars from the plastic stock and the action screw went into the action too far and impeded the safety. Try this, remove the washers and put the action into the stock with the safety on, watch the safety when tightening the action screw, if you hold the action tight into the stock and see the safety lever raise when tightening the action screw, the screw is too long for the stock.
That's essentially what I did to find that the two washers allowed for the perfect height. I still do not think a shorter screw is the answer but rather the action being slightly higher in the stock. The safety is working properly now. Just threw a scope on there and will shoot it Friday.
I've got 20gr and 25gr so we will see. I already have more money into it than the cost of the gun so I am looking at it positively. I'll report back after shooting
new to the site and have been reading a lot on the B-Mag, which I just got one last Thursday but haven't messed with it yet
Also have a Boyds Nutmeg Classic stock and want to make sure the DIP trigger guard will fit it ok Thanks
My barrel same way! Isnt this your second one?Let us now your fixes..
If it shoots half decently, I can overlook the barrel being off center.
Dean
I agree,this is my 4th Boyds stock on a savage, 2 axis stocks and just got done putting a thumbhole on my 17HMR minutes ago,they all fit great.But this B-mag stock not right,I think they rushed it !
The Boyds tech called me twice today but I was busy at work. I'll see what he has to say tom
I must have gotten lucky also, put my stock on tonight and no trouble other than the barrel is ever so slightly to the left, the safety works fine and I can latch the bolt down with just my thumb. the only real problem was the clip would not latch, but a couple strokes with a file along the lip and it snapped in ok.
Haven't had time to mount my scope yet ( Tasco Varmiter 6-24x42mm )
http://i1358.photobucket.com/albums/...ps1c4bdf37.jpg
Not a thumbhole, rimfire classic
Only pic I have of it, for now
http://i1275.photobucket.com/albums/...psdf5c7378.jpg
Does anyone have a thumbhole that bolted right up without any problems?
Boyd's has been great about my issues with their Bmag tacticool stock. They kept calling me until I was able to speak with them. They've offered to take it back, but for $100 I'll probably just tinker with it myself. I make my own BR and HBR stocks anyway, so I'm sure I'll be able to fix the mag and barrel alignment issues. I may even trim down the forearm a bit. I realize the stock has to be wide because of the width of the rotary mag, but I feel the forearm is way too wide for this little rifle and small diameter barrel.
http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/z...ps28dd7b29.jpg[IMG]http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/z...psa40306e1.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/z...psdea8214d.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/z...psc40d35c4.jpg[/IMG]Well it went together pretty good with just one added metric washer, torqueing the rear down first, then the front and I couldn't be happier. boyds' stocks just can't be beat, they look sweet!
That's great news, thanks for doing the leg work.
Dean
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Crocket, it looks like your safety is plenty high above the stock, here is a pic of my safety
http://i1275.photobucket.com/albums/...psdjyjex4n.jpg
Here is a pic of my barrel in the stock
http://i1275.photobucket.com/albums/...pscoxox8o3.jpg
Is everyone using these things(stock pillars, escutcheons, whatever they want to call them) on the action screws?
http://i1275.photobucket.com/albums/...ps09e5787c.jpg
yes I used them on my classic stock, came out of the plastic with no trouble,
are the o-rings on the barrel really supposed to help or just align the barrel straight in the stock?
Yes used fact.escutcheons in my thumbhole.Another thing, check your safety,mine with the rear action screw barely snug would fire with safety on.I think Im gonna send mine back.wont be getting scope til April anyways.
Yes on the escutcheons, one small metric washer inside so you can tighten the rear without affecting the safety, then you can tighten the front and hopefully your barrel will sit in the center of the barrel channel on the stock.
Gonna call Friday,might just trade for the prairie hunter model,really like the thumbhole though!
Hey Jeremy, the o-rings will not with with a boyds due to the barrel channel dimensions of the stock. Try finding a piece of rubber that will just fit between the bottom of the barrel and the bottom of the barrel channel. Not to thick that it will put upward pressure, but enough that it will contact the barrel and dampen vibrations. Also locate the rubber under the barrel where words Bmag is stamped on the top.
That's what worked for me.
No matter what I do, I just can't seem to get that safety to work smoothly, and as much as I look a the area, I can not for the life of me see what they obstruction is, washers did not seem to make a difference.
Dean
Looking at the end of your stock and I see what looks like the exact same finish issue my stock had, fine cracks in the finish only highly noticeable in bright light and at certain angles. Looks like your camera flash made it show up, so take a closer look at your stock and then contact boyds'