It has to cover a certain percentage of the purchase or it will be declined.
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Speaking of rebates; Does Savage just offer the rebates willy-nilly or has there been a pattern to them? I missed out on the 12FV last fall at $219 and still grumpy about it. Online my local Cabelas showed them in stock but when I called the store the next morning they didn't have any left. Ended up cancelling the order since they couldn't guarantee the rifle would make it to me in time for the rebate.
It won't even let me activate the other two, says wrong zip code. The same zip worked for the first one.
Installed the SSS Improved Extractor Kit today and what a difference it makes.
It has been hit and miss with my cards. I had to call 4 times on my last card and run through the activation before it was finally accepted at a store. I was about to give up, but 4th time must have been a charm. I have one left to use, and I tried it today and it worked. I will be glad when I have that one spent. The extra money is nice, but kind of a pain in the butt when they don't work correctly.
On sale again, no rebate though. Got the 6.5 on the way. I had $250 in gift cards and another $70 in my pocket change gun money/cup, so ~$70 out of the wallet.
My 12fv CM is starting to group tighter. They are a sweet deal no matter the price.
Seeing stock status getting low on one Cabela’s I placed my order with another equidistant that showed in stock. Now, Mother’s day is Sunday and my Wife’s favorite Greek eatery is near the Cabela’s. Hmmm.
Had to give an update on My Model 12FV in 308 Accuracy and testing...I think I found My load! 08 LC 7.62 trimmed Brass, annealed, Fed primer , 42.5gr of IMR4064, Hornady Match 168gr BTHP, 2.78" COOAL. Tested 6 charges and 3 were sub1". https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...fe&oe=5B7B4616
Can anyone tell me what tool is required to remove the action from the stock on the 12FV? I just got word my rifle is ready for pickup and tomorrow is to be a good day for a drive in the convertible. One problem: My trunk is too small to bring the rifle home in one piece.
Just buckle it in the front! Lmao.
You sir are correct. It is home in 22-250. The blast ring on the crown from the test shot couldn't be more perfectly symmetrical. One minor issue. The bottom of the bolt drags on the top of the mag lips. Drags hard too. Has anyone else noticed this? Before I start removing metal I thought it wise to check if there is a fix. Bore cleaned, scope mounted and clear skies forecast for tomorrow.
Celltech, thanks for the help.
Try removing it from the stock. Mine is smooth and very precise once removed and away from the mag. I found it loads, feeds and ejects fine. A bit lazy on the ejection though. An AR-15 fling is not what I’m after so that’s OK with me.
It's kinda a janky affair with the internal mag and its "L" shaped retention bracket at the rear. Make sure the mag/bracket are locked together and pushed all the way down. And none of my 4 12's eject very hard...but they do work smoothly. I did install the slightly larger balls under the ejector to give them a bit more grip on the case rim.
I did some searching on the subject last night and found the post that explains mag removal. I’ll try that tonight. One other thing I noticed is my trigger is exceptionally light. It feels as light as my CZ527 with the set trigger. Not that i’m complaining. It could have been closer to the Axis I bought.
The 12's have a varmint trigger spring which is a step up from the even lighter target spring. You can adjust them down very low ;-) Or you can back them out and add some heft if you want. I even bought a set of them and put them in my Axis rifles as well...
Good news! Set up at 50 yds, 32 gr IMR 3031, Midway 52 HPBT match blemish. Shot 1, cleaned. Shot 2, cleaned. Shots 4-6 were 1/4” ctr-ctr. Dummy me forgot to zoom up from 8x. Hornady brass and CCI primers.
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Super happy with Choate Tactical Stock/CDI Bottom Metal combo from E Arthur Brown Co (https://www.eabco.net/Savage-Detachable-Magazine-Conversion-Stock--Short-Action_p_15372.html). If I could have sprung another ~$250, I would probably have gone with a chasis from MDT. The Choate Tactical is a really stable platform, just heavy. Great for bench shooting or prone. It has a channel under the foregrip that allows you to adjust the bipod exactly where you want it. For $400 this is a solid option to upgrade the Tupperware and get into a detachable box mag. I can load up the bipod fully and there is no flex with the stock. The total package is around 14# now and in .223 the rifle hardly even moves when firing.
This is at 100-yards off bipod only with Hornady 73-grain ELD Match .223. I was concerned at the 12FV 1 in 9" twist having ability to stabilize a 73-grain bullet but no trouble at all.
broke it down tonight. Moves fine out of the stock. Removed blind mag and inspected. Everything appears to be correct. Reinstalled, same thing. Loosening the front trigger guard screw removes the tension when sliding the bolt in.
I guess I could put a small washer on top of the "L" bracket to push it down when assembled then test. Thinking of anything I can do without permanently modifying it in case I decide to send it back. Might be as easy as bending the tab, on the "L" bracket that goes into the magwell, down making it push it down in further.
On one of my 12FV replacement stocks I removed the L bracket all together and fixed the magazine in with epoxy putty. Just use a small amount in the 4 corners only. If you put any on the sides it will keep the feed lips from expanding when trying to load the rounds.
Looked around in my screw bin for a thin washer. Ended up using an internal tooth loc washer between the stock and the "L" bracket. Bolt drops out when vertical now. I'll give an update when I get a scope on it. Talley rings n sling on the way from more gift certificates lol. So I'm still sitting at $70 out of pocket in it.
6.5 CM was doing well tonight. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...c167de1b67.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...255e640ec4.jpg
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I believe my bolt was binding because of bending the action when tightening the stock screws not dragging on the top of the mag. Installed .006” shim stock in the front fixed mine. Still shooting the 52gr HPBT Midway seconds with 3031 and SB primers. I’m ready to go after that Fox that knows he’s safe 300 yards away. er...used to be.
Had a local smith look at the bolt drag while lapping my rings. He ended up filing them down a bit. I didn't ask how much. Works great.
I ended up trimmin the firing pin spring and adjusted it down to about 0.043" petrusion while there. The bolt lift is a lot better than it was. Was kinda scared to do it until I saw replacement firing pin assemblies for $20 on Midway.
You can also remove metal off the bottom by rubbing it on some sandpaper.
So new guy here, first post and first precision bolt gun.
I want to change to a different stock/chassis that will take AICS mags. What do you guys recommend? I've looked at the Boyd's Pre Varmint with adjustable cheek inlet for a CDI, MDT ESS, MDT LSS XL Gen 2, KRG 180-Alpha, MPA BA Lite... other options I'm missing?
Thanks in advance!
MDT HS3. XLR Envy (may not be avail for Savage yet). XLR Element. MPA BA Competition. McRees G7. McMillan A5, A6, A3, or A3/5 inletted for CDI or other DBM. Bell and Carlson Medalist (or one of their other stocks) inletted for CDI DBM.
Hey Gooldylocks! I have been running MDT chassis since I first built my precision rifle in 2015 and can't say enough great things about them! I have has a chance to have the LSS, ESS and now the LSS-XL Gen2 on my match rifle and all have been spectacular in their own way. Depending on what you're doing with the rifle (hunting, target, etc.) all their chassis can be modified to suit your end goal. If you're hunting, then go with the HS3 or LSS. Prone target shooting and ringing steel far away, then the Tac21 is a great option. If you're wanting to be portable and have great stability then the ESS and LSS-XL Gen2 are perfect. They really offer a chassis to suit every need!
....and it'd be great if MDT produced the HS3 for left hand Savage SA and LA actions too. :cool:
I really like the ESS and LSS XL Gen2. But they are a bit more than I am looking to spend at this time. The LSS would be a good option, I just wish the handguard were a biiiiit longer.
Would the Accurate Mag bottom metal be a drop in for a bell and carlson stock? I was thinking the adjustable medalist 6 looks like a nice option.
My idea for this rifle is to be a match/hunting combo gun. I would like to be able to shoot the local club prone long range match, some PRS, and an accurate deer rifle. I hunt out in the desert in central Oregon, so lots of open space.
The other option would be... sell this rifle and get something like the Howa bravo that might be better suited to match shooting out of the box. But I would certainly end up deeper in the hole doing that.
just picked up a cabelas savage12fv 223 1in 9 twist …..what bullets are getting the best results with this rifle brand and weight ….thanks
Not sure about the 12, but, my axis (also a 1 in 9 twist) likes the 69gn bullets best. Either Nosler match or Sierra Matchking. Varget powder has also proven to be very good, but, I have not tried that many.
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Mine seems to like any quality ammo from 52-69 grains. V-Max, SMKs and TMKs. 69 TMK handloads are hitting 1/2 moa.
I have about 40 different bullets mostly 45 to 60 grains and before I buy any heaver i just want to get an idea if there was any pattern to what this model 223 savage likes........this is my 14th savage rifle most are rebarreled
The 1:9 twist should let you shoot up to ~73 grains...the heaviness will let you keep laying them down round after round...
I have a 12FV and an 11THXP. Both 1:9 barrels.
The 12FV shoots 77 Nosler CC bullets into 0.6-0.7" groups pretty regularly.
Both barrels will stabilize the 80 Nosler CC...but barely. I haven't gotten the 80's to group under 1.2" yet.
Neither will stabilize the 80 amax/eld.
The 11THXP put the 40 nosler varmageddon into 0.38"...
I say all that to say- common bullet spin rules are more like guidelines. Good to follow, but something outside the norm might also be good.
I like DIY. The barrel nut just makes sense. -PB
I assume you mean they are stable at 100yd. Have you tried the heavier bullets at longer ranges, 300, 400, etc?
With mine the 69SMK's start to disperse out at the 600+ ranges.
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The 12FV shooting 77's and my kid pulling the trigger beat me and my 10TR 308.
500-yds. F-class.
First time for both of us.
He shot a 522-5x.
$380 Bone stock 12fv.
$100 4.5-18x40 bushnell scope.
$30 Blackhawk bipod.
He had the cheapest gun on the line, and beat 1/4 of the folks.
Anyways, yes...if they are stable at 100, they should be stable till transonic.
I like DIY. The barrel nut just makes sense. -PB
If you're looking for a high BC bullet at a decent velocity, give the 53gr Hornady VMAX a try. Amazing G1 BC of .290 in such a light bullet. They shoot extremely well from my 12FV in an H-S Precision stock. They will consistently shoot under .5" with groups in the .1"s being common. Hodgdon Benchmark pushing them to just over 3400fps has become my standard prairie dog load. Check out the photo link in post #618 of this thread if you're interested in seeing how a few different loads performed in my 12FV.
I have some 53 vmax so I will be trying them for sure . thanks and I will check out your post