Hello,
Please post where you have found or seen 17 WSM ammo for sale.
Midway, Cabelas, Bass Pro, Natchez, Dicks Sporting Goods, Sportsman Warehouse, all did not have any as of 1:00 pm today.
PLEASE HELP!
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Hello,
Please post where you have found or seen 17 WSM ammo for sale.
Midway, Cabelas, Bass Pro, Natchez, Dicks Sporting Goods, Sportsman Warehouse, all did not have any as of 1:00 pm today.
PLEASE HELP!
OK,
I read were Winchester had over 50 million 17 wsm rounds ready to go at the begining of June.
Savage just released the B mag last week.
A post on Savage Shooters had a gentleman order a box from Sportsman Warehouse last week, they are now sold out.
A post today had a gentleman buy the last box at Cabelas somewhere ?
Gunbroker has some dealers with 1 or 2 boxes on auction for more than $50.00 a box each.
I see were 1 dealer is in Arizona, another in Ohio, and 1 in Missouri.
Midway - nothing available, expected in August.
Cabelas - nothing - not even listed on line yet that I can find, I just called them to verify, the do not have it listed.
Sportsman Warehouse nothing listed available online.
Bass pro - nothing listed.
Natchez - not available at this time .
I have been relitively calm with the 22lr, and 22 mag circus going on.
I am now starting to believe that there are games being played on the ammo market.
3 dealers have ammo for online auctions, and a smaller retailer had some, but none of the largest retailers have anything to ship/send out ?
WT_? Really, Joe Smoe in Ohio can get ammo, but Cabelas and Midway can not ? Come on.
I would really like to know how much 17 wsm ammunition Winchester has sent out, and to whom, so we all can know the "real" story.
FRUSTRATING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I wish my Dillon could reload rimfire.
Exactly why I told Savage not to bother sending me one to review until this fall.
Last Friday I was at the Bass Pro store in Modesto Ca. and they had 10 boxes of Winchester 17 Super Magnum , 20 gr, Polymer Tip on the shelf. They had a limit of 4 boxes per customer at $15.99 per box of 50 rounds. I bought my limit. Tomorrow I pick up my new Savage B MAG rifle I bought at a small local gun store that received 2 of the new rifles last week. He did not know when he would receive amm for the rifles.
Frank
So, Bass Pro has some ammo on the shelf in select stores, but nothing for online sales ?
How does that work ?
I e mailed WInchester and asked for confirmation that they shipped out 17 WSM ammo.
They replied, "Ammunition sales is propriatory information, and not for public knowledge".
FRUSTRATING !!!!!!!!!!!!
Called 6 different Bass Pros in Iowa and Missouri.
Interestingly they all had 17 wsm at one time in the last 2 weeks.
The last one I called in NE Missouri had 1 box left, but they will not ship ammunition through their store only through corporate headquarters.
So I live chat Corporate headquarters and they will not confirm or deny that they have 17 wsm ammo, but they confirm that it is not as of yet listed in the internet/catalog sales.
So, if you live by Bass Pro, stop in, you might get lucky.
Midway update.
25 grn expected 8-31-13
20 grn jhp expected 8-31-13
20 grn v max went from expected 8-31-13 to - out of stock no backorder.
Soooooo, this aint looking good folks.
I expect the first two will follow suit.
Anyone have any information from Winchester?
Anyone from a distributor have any information?
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My buddy saw some in a local shop in N.C. today and grabbed me two boxes of 25gr.......now I just need something to shoot them through.
Midway update,
25 grn 17 Winchester super magnum went from 8-31-13 expected, to out of stock , no backorders.
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The 17 WSM debacle is just another example of the Gun industry putting itself out of business. Never before or since 1976 have I ever seen such shortages of ammo or guns. I look at Midway and a box of ammos is 14.00 and because they don't have it you see it all over gunbroker for 50.00 and up a box. This kind of gouging and greed is going to keep the shooting industry as many people have just lost interest. Look at 22 ammo it is 5 times the price it used to be and yet the factories are producing a million rounds a day. I have had a FFL since 1976 and have finally decided to give it up as it is just no fun anymore worrying about can I get 22 cal in stock or not that is just crazy yet if you are willing to be raked over the coals you can buy it. I am no fool and see the hand writing on the walls we the gun owners are going to put ourselves out of business and it will not take Obama to do it. He is sitting back in his easy chair laughing at how dumb we are. We have killed the entry level gun and caliber for most young people and without the new blood we will eventually cease to exist, as who can go out and afford to target shoot for over 1.00 a round for a lot of ammo now. The horders are sucking it all up with no concern for the day to day shooters who are not worried about the end of the world but just want to target shoot a day without having to go to the bank for a mortgage to shoot a couple hundred rounds.
The simple answer is folks need to just stop buying for a while. The vast majority of us have more than we can shoot in many years yet we keep gobbling up every round we see.
We are doing this to ourselves!
Well,
I am not part of "we", I have not bought 22lr for about 2 years, and I as post states, I am looking to buy my 1st round of 17 wsm.
I have had my b mag for 3 weeks now, and I have a real funny feeling that it will be next spring before I get to shoot it.
Bow season is closing in fast, along with youth season deer.
I will be haveing my boy practice with my .223 or maybe my 22-250.
I have no 22 LR, or 22 mag for him to practice with.
?
Oh well
What do some of the guys on THF say? Thats capitolism and a free market.Quote:
The 17 WSM debacle is just another example of the Gun industry putting itself out of business. Never before or since 1976 have I ever seen such shortages of ammo or guns. I look at Midway and a box of ammos is 14.00 and because they don't have it you see it all over gunbroker for 50.00 and up a box. This kind of gouging and greed is going to keep the shooting industry as many people have just lost interest. Look at 22 ammo it is 5 times the price it used to be and yet the factories are producing a million rounds a day.
1st of all when I talked to a ammo tech / CSR at Winchester just before Memorial Day he told me they had ORDERS for 13 million rounds not 50 million. Then in the 2nd week of July Midway received and sold 20gr and then 25gr. Everyone that knew about it was confused that they didn't get any product arrival notice. I guessed that they received a mere 10,000 rounds. Yes I posted that I received some from Sportsmans Warehouse. I made the mistake of only buying one box. I then ordered 3 boxes from Cabellas and some extra stuff. I only received the extra stuff. :-(
I got in on the Midway deal for the 20gr but missed on the 25gr. I was hoping to find someone who had 25gr and wanted to swap for some 20gr. My rifle shoots 25gr better but not everyone's shoots 25gr better.
No offense intended BUT that is where you are wrong. I wouldn't hedge my bets against gold & silver. Also I will neither confirm not deny the amount of ammo I have but I can tell you that I can turn a tidy profit. Will I get rich? No. Will I make a good profit, heck yeah. Have I sold any, no, not yet.
Keep it on topic please. :thumb:
So Winchested shipped 10,000 rounds to Midway in early July.
Well, that is upsetting.
If I did my job, like Midway is doing theirs, I would not have a job. I was never notified either, and I am on the e mail notice.
Oh well.
I won't go on anymore, I need to try to find some Hornady bullets tonight, before those are all gone, since they will not produce them for the remainder of 2013.
Hows that hope and change "in your pocket" working out ?
Look, I don't know if the amount was 10,000. I assumed that number. Also NO ONE received notification and the ammo, whatever amount, was gone in hours. At that time they were allowing 10 boxes per customer. This time I was notified and the amount was 5 boxes per customer. They were gone in 10 minutes.
Monkey, if you want a box of ammo you could just ask me instead of being grumpy about it.
Found .17wsm ammo at Cabelas at about 17:15 today. At least I think I did. It calls it ".17 Winchester Short Magnum" in places. Also has picture of 20gr. 3000fps cartridge box on page and describes 20gr cartridge. I ordered 10 boxes at $16.99 and the completed order that I printed off calls it "17wsm 25gr tipped". I don't really know what I will get but at least I'm trying. I found it at this web page:
http://www.cabelas.com/catalog/produ...&destination=/
Poor Shot,
Thank you for the information, and especially the link.
I ordered 4 boxes, and it was just like you said it was, 20 grain on the box, 25 grain tipped on the order form.
I recieved a confirmation number, so, I think I will be getting some.
Also, Please note.
I have checked in Cabelas web site every day except Sunday, typed in IK-218742 for this ammunition, and I get either out of stock no back order, or I get a "that number is no longer available".
I even typed it in the Cabela's search box, with the ammunition and order quantity on the screen tonight, and I got "that number is no longer available".
I am not sure what is going on with all of that, but use the link Poor Shot provided guys.
Thanks again Poor Shot.
Plinkin,
Thanks, but I think Poor Shot has gotten me a link into Cabelas on some ammo.
Also, FYI
You stated that you were notified for the ammo from Midway. That is good.
However, I have all three 17 wsm rounds that Midway has on their site on my wish list, and on the "to notify me" list, and I have not been notified.
I also had some .308 150 grain hornady spt on the same list, and was never notified for those either.
I called midway today, and they confirmed that my account has those 4 items in my wish list and to be notified list.
They could not however, explain why I was NOT notified on either the 2, that they got back in stock, then out of stock on.
Also
Midway also automatically changed my quantitiy on some Fiocchi 223 ammo last spring from 2 - 200 round ammo cans to 1 - 200 round can.
I even vented on the Savage Shooters site about that one, and how I felt the rules of the gsme were being changed as we played it.
Sour grapes maybe, but I will stand by what I said, If I did my job, and provided the quality of customer service that I have been getting the last 6 to 8 months, I would be fired from my job.
Now, having said that, up to that point, I had very good results with Midway, and no complaints.
I hope Midways customer service gets back to the "good ol days".
Well I put an order in for 25gr. I have been trying more 25gr since my rifle seems to shoot it a bit better, so I ordered a "few" boxes.
Monkey, YES I said I was notified this most recent time. When the 17WSM 20gr came available early in July NO ONE, not even me, was notified. I happen to get a message from a Facebook reply that Midway had some. They were out of stock within hours. I didn't get 25gr when it 1st came available from Midway because I was on vacation. I didn't get it this last time because everyone was notified and BAM their server became very congested. I did however manage to order some from Cabelas again. Maybe I will actually gt some this time. The 1st time I ordered from them I also ordered some reloading supplies. By the time the order was processed none of the 17WSM was shipped. If this happens again I will cancel the order.
If I receive the entire shipment I will basically have a lifetime supply of 17WSM for the "B.Mine" Chances are I will not shoot up all this ammo since I have other varmint rifles I like shooting or need to shoot more often. I do like carrying this one out in the field though.
guys, only a few actually have this gun, if you have the gun, just put it in the safe for a few months and you will find the ammo on sale. Hoarders are buying the limited supply or people are buying to resell on GB.
Well that is a good idea and good principle BUT that leaves more for the "hoarders & resellers". I try to buy what I figure I am going to use. I don't buy calibers that I don't own. I will share with others but I won't take a loss.
I ordered 3 boxes of .17 WSM yesterday from Cabelas. That's all I'll need for a while. I don't hoard. Strangely, I got no confirmation, unlike I get immediately with Midway orders.
So, today I called and a nice lady told me that the warehouse was sent the order and I wouldn't be billed until the ammo shipped.
Shortly after that call, I checked my bank account and the $ had been deducted from my account.....
I also tried to find out if more was available and indeed they don't have that # listed. Almost like they never had any...
Gun won't be here 'till next week, anyway.
BTW, of the 'dealers' I have spoken with in the last 6 months concerning the B Mag, a LOT have given me the Homer Simpson 'blank look'. They had no clue what I was talking about........ha ha
Strange....
ron
10:16 PM got email from Midway.com. They have .17wsm 20gr. Vmax. Limit is 5 boxes per person. I didn't see the email until after midnight. Better hurry.
00:18 AM -- Crap, they are already sold out. Nevermind.
Greetings, I'm new and will try to not make many mistakes. I came here on the trail of some 17 wsm ammunition. However, my need is somewhat different. I bought in to the hype about 17 wsm (and still do) so I asked my local gunsmith to try to find a reamer to re-chamber my extra New England 17 HMR ( that I dearly love) into 17wsm. He has a friend in the business of manufacturing reamers and he was successful in acquiring one. However, he would like a couple of rounds in his hot little hand before he starts the job------he already has several jobs lined up after mine---and I have totally failed so far in finding any-------So, my hope with this posting is that I can beg, borrow, steal, or pay an exhorbitant price for 2 or 3 rounds from a luckier, more resourceful member of this forum. I am on the Midway alert list but so far I am 'too slow'. I am willing to wait for supply to increase, but I sure would like to get this chamber job going. Thanks
Yeah I don't think that is going to work Keystone Kid. The base on the WSM is larger and I am guessing the firing pin will not strike correctly.
Different subject. I saw this on Armslist. Have at it. http://www.armslist.com/posts/196192...-17-wsm-20-grn
Thanks for the clue-----I'm making a run at it------as for the rim-----you might be right-----we discussed that possibility but as simple as the firing mechanism is in the New England---old H&R topper type------worst case would be to enlarge the firing pin opening and modify a new pin-------or so we think------its an experiment----but I had to try------thanks again----B
20gr poly tipped .17wsm available at Cabelas as of 22:40 today.
http://www.cabelas.com/catalog/produ...&destination=/
Already sold out.....drat!
ron
I managed to walk into Walmart a few days ago and all by its lonesome self was a box of High Energy 25gr. Snagged them right up lol.
also give http://www.gunbot.net/ammo/17wsm/ a try.
-Zinzrah
Z, thanks for the gunbot link.... Nothing there at present.
I've heard about WalMart having .17 WSM several times now, Funny, nothing shows in their stock # listing. Every time I visit the local "Superstore" there's a customer *****in' about the lack of .22 LR ammo........
I heard one guy complain he was "down to only 50,000 rounds" !!
ron
I remember a previous thread that stated "one" factory produced all the 17HSM ammo in the USA. A person who is a member here and works for this factory verified this. Is this still the case? They make all the 17HSM ammo for everyone, just put their labels on the containers.
I didnt expect them to have it honestly. I even commented to my gf before I walked over there that there was a small chance in hell they would have it. Needless to say I returned with a rather large smile lol.
I am actually in a rural area too lol. But I am heading to the doc on tuesday and I will be checking for more ammo. Will let you know.
This is REALLLLY off-topic, but some of the funniest stuff I have ever seen, are the pics of the "walmartians". A lady friend of mine works there and she has some great (not repeatable here) stories....... ha ha
The Sporting Goods Mgr tells me how many times / day he gets asked about .22 lr ammo. It's a LOT!!!!
ron
Sir----thank you for your offer------I think it is fair-------However, I have been able to find a sufficient quantity of 17 wsm to get the reamer job going and it appears to be successful -------I will go to the target range tomorrow and find out-------my results----good--bad--or ugly-- will be relayed back to the good people I have found on savageshooters----- Thanks----Keystone
http://www.cabelas.com/product/Shoot...c_id=cj3946285
20gr in stock at cabelas right now! go get em
Well-----the first pass at the range with my newly reamed New England 17 WSM was quite a relief------after the usual getting on paper------using a Swift 4x12 scope ------then stretching out farther to get 'on' at 100 yds-----I finally ended up at about 190 yds shooting 5 shots that measured 3 1/8" between farthest holes------not too impressive but if I throw out the 1 flyer -----the remaining 4 holes all touch the same quarter------I like it-----and the drop is much as advertised------on at 100 yds------approx. 3 to 4 low at 190--------I like it a lot------also-----the Savage 93 in 17 HMR that I shot along side the 17 WSM for comparison-------measured a loose 5 shot group of about 6 " and they all were flyers--------let me know if anyone wants more details or progress reports-----My gunsmith was pretty pleased as well and wants to do more if the gun is workable----I'm now in the market for a 17 rimfire barrel we can ream for my TC Contender---Keystone
KK, excellent. Funny thing.... about the time the .17 WSM was announced, Midway was selling chambering reamers for the WSM. I think a lot of folks did some second guessing when they realized the firing pin need a slight modification. The WSM IS loaded to pretty high pressures, and Win said they could go higher, but decided to use 3000 fps as a 'standard'.... They also indicated (tease) that there might be .22 and .25 WSMs on the horizon. Cool, but, I'm done! I have too many 'toys' now, and I could reload/shoot for the rest of my days and still not have reached 'optimum'... ha ha
I have a couple of TC frames and a collection of bbls. Unfortunately, they are all big bore and because of wrist problems can't be used anymore. A few notables are my scoped, 14" .357 Herrett. Sweet. The 'worst' (and probably responsible for my wrist issues) is a 14" .445 Super Mag. Has the same ME as a .308 Win. NOT fun to shoot. Even in .44 Mag, it's much worse than my other .44 Mags. Yes, I do have Pach. grips.....Why did I buy it? I have a SS Dan Wesson in .445 and wanted a 'companion'. BIG mistake.
Although I have been a TC fan since they first came out, I (personally) feel the bbls are just priced waaaaayyyy too high. Even on FleaBay, a used bbl is $250+.... I'd like to find a nice 14" .223 bbl, but.......
BTW, I took my new B-Mag to the range today. This is it's second trip. I had put on a 4-16 Weaver 'Kaspa' scope. POS.
Today, I sighted it in with a new Redfield Revenge 6-18. This is a near perfect combo. After I zeroed it, I let my buddy shoot it. (he LOVES Redfield). He shot a 4 shot group at 50 yds that could be covered with a dime. 25 gr bullets. He doesn't like .17 cals (I have several diff .17s) but I think he's going to buy one of these.
My boss is going to buy one also, he just doesn't know it yet!!! ha ha (I have his unlimited CC, ha ha ha)....
Good luck and if you want to know what other 'odd' TC cal bbls I have, send me a PM....
be SAFE
ron
Just an update that is on topic. For the past few days I have seen .17 WSM ammo for sale daily on Cabelas. It is usually sold out anywhere between 10 minutes and 3 hours. Id keep an eye open on it if you still need ammo. I haven't seen ANY 25gr HE ammo for sale at all. I managed to score a single box at Walmart a couple weeks ago but I guess I just got lucky. Anyways below is my ammo source searcher and it works well. You can set it up to play a nice loud sound when it finds something. Just keep it up and running and if you are there and lucky then you can score some ammo lol.
GUNBOT Real Time Ammo Stock Tracker - http://www.gunbot.net
.17 WSM Tracker link - http://www.gunbot.net/ammo/17wsm/
Cheers,
-Zinzrah
http://www.rareammo.com/catalog/prod...20c7178be99660
In stock now! 20gr. Not the best price but beats gunbroker by alot. go get em!!!!
Anyone in the Tracy, Manteca, Modesto, Turlock, California area - Barnwood Arms in Ripon, Ca has 4 boxes of .17 WSM ammo. They've had them for 4 or 5-days! Sorry, don't know what bullet weight they are. Mike
Barnwood Arms ammo gone when I called at 2:25 pm. Fri 8-23-13
Frank
I have been on many gun forums and all over the internet. Seems that the ammo people are finding on the Western side of the country is 20 grain and the Eastern part of the country has 25 grain. I sure am wishing the 25 grain will make its way to the West. As I have said before I have 500 rounds of 20 grain that is good for one good day of squirrel hunting in Northern Calif and need more ammo for the hunt after that, would like to try the 25 grain.
Frank
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Frank