Originally Posted by
triehl27
Yeah I can contribute!!!
I just finished my 6x45 AR, prior to deer season, I went with an 18" barrel with it. If I would do it over I'd have gone with the 24" The rifle is a tack driver, but with that light of a caliber I'd like all the velocity I can get to guarantee expansion. Because I am limited to Mag length of 2.26" (which you won't be) I am limited to max of about 90gr bullets. My best loads are 70gr Varmageddon bullets for plinking (Way to light a jacket to hunt deer with) and 85gr Sierra Game Kings for deer. Running the 70gr Varm about 2800-2850.
At 18" i'm not pushing much over 2700fps MAX at the muzzle with my hottest loads with the 85gr. With 24" I'd expect that to be in the 2900 - 3000FPS arena.
I love the caliber! It is super easy to reload for, Super cheap to obtain components for, and here in Washington, legal for deer.
My next build is going to be a Axis 6X45, from Apache.
With the bolt action you would be able to load the 100+gr bullets but it would have limiting returns, as you just can't push um fast enough for good effect with a 223 case. BUT the advantage to a bolt is you can load them longer, gaining powder capacity in the case.
My favorite powders are
1. 8208XBR
2. H335
3. Varget. ( a word of note. **I don't believe** it's possible to fit enough Varget into a 6x45 case to ever show a pressure sign. That was why I started with it. At 25gr with a 70Gr Varmageddon I was getting .15" groups consistently, during barrel breakin no less. NOW the downside... Velocity, 25gr of Varget was crunchy even with the short 70gr, when loaded to 2.26" BUT when I ran it thru the Chrono, it was 300FPS slower then where I wanted it. My 90gr BT test loads were in the 1/4" 10shot groups, at 2000fps, 500+fps slower then desired. Great accuracy, but snail mail delivery.
I have since settled on my loads using 8208 and slightly larger average groups at around 1/2-3/4" groups, BUT at the velocities I want.
Quickload has been indispensable in showing the actual length of the bullets, so I could decide on the shorted bullets available to give me the greatest capacity. I have chosen an 85gr HP, 75gr HP, and 70gr Varm as my bullets of choice.
I have had 1 case fail on me at a top level (still under pub max). Blew the entire shoulder, neck, out... Looked like I had gold glitter come out the barrel, found brass shards in the muzzle brake, bottom half of the case looked like a jagged crown. Gummed up the gun something fierce, chamber, gas port, block, tube, BCG, muzzle brake, all took cleaning. Now I find a velocity I can get the bullet to expand at the max range I want to shoot a game animal at.
It is a wonderful caliber within reason. It is NOT a 243, and never will be.