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helotaxi
05-22-2011, 11:00 PM
Bearing surface has nothing to do with stability either. Look at the two formulas for determining bullet stability, the Greenhill formula and the Miller index, and what variables go into those formulas. The only ones that are taken from the bullet itself are the diameter and the length. The ratio of length to caliber is the relationship that matters.

Bearing surface has an effect on the way that pressure builds in the chamber, more bearing surface means that more of the bullet is contacting the rifling and more friction from it moving down the bore. Examples of the irrelevance of bearing surface to stability are the Berger VLD bullets (very low bearing surface but very long, requiring a faster twist than similarly weighted bullets with a more conventional profile) and the Sierra .224 77gn MatchKing (relatively blunt ogive and a lot of shank and bearing surface but not requiring as fast a twist compared to even some lighter .224 bullets).

You just explained why bearing surface is important.

"Everything" is important. The question is "what is it important to?" If the "something" is bearing surface, the "what" is pressure. Exactly squat to do with stability. The discussion is about stability so bearing surface has no place in the discussion.

gotcha
05-22-2011, 11:39 PM
r29120, you can google: greenhill formula.............. & access a interactive twist rate formula for your future use. Only problem is you must have bullet in hand to measure. A little late to change your twist rate ;D Dale

GaCop
05-23-2011, 05:53 AM
Rugers have been very disappointing for me in the accuracy department. I had one of their stainless Model 77's, varmint weight barrel in 25-06. I never could get it to shoot better than 1 1/8" no matter what I did so I sold it. Same thing with a 30-06 Ruger International, most inaccurate rifle I've ever seen so dumped it too.

I have never had a bad Ruger 77 mkll varmit target rifle.
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Very nice. I wasn't fortunate enough to get my Ruger to shoot anywhere near that good with any powder/bullet combo I tried so gave up and sold the rifle. The Mannlicher stock International never has been known for accuracy but at the time I got it, I wasn't aware of that. It shot adequate, (I guess), for hunting but it never impressed me and never matched the accuracy of my older Ruger 77 made back in the late 60's.