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scope eye
01-22-2011, 09:17 AM
I could not help but notice that almost everything that is offered in reloading equipment in 110 volt is also offered in 220 volt, It must be me but I have never said to myself I wish this tumbler had more amps, and I can't imagine the demand is even close to configure a whole entire line can someone enlighten me?
Thanks Dean
ps I could not find any other section to put this under.

GaCop
01-22-2011, 09:37 AM
220 volt items are usually made for export to countries that use the 220/50 cycle like Germany and a few eastern European countries. Using a 220 set up in the US usually allows the item to last longer and has more power.

Blue Avenger
01-22-2011, 10:50 AM
a lot of the time they will run cheaper also.

sha-ul
01-22-2011, 12:24 PM
a lot of the time they will run cheaper also.

True, but all the really cool toys are 3 phase ;D :P

wapaloose
01-22-2011, 01:47 PM
All you have to do is build a 3 phase converter, It's real easy to do.

Blue Avenger
01-22-2011, 02:16 PM
a lot of the time they will run cheaper also.

True, but all the really cool toys are 3 phase ;D :P
yes they are! and 3 phase converters are supposed to be easy, but I have seen some quirks with them until you get everything set up.

earl39
01-22-2011, 03:58 PM
If memory serves me right (been over 30 years since i was last overseas), the plugs even for 220 were at least at that time just a simple 2 prong plug and not what we consider a 220 plug here in the states. If anyone has been across the pond more recently feel free to correct me on the current type of plug used. My experience was in Spain, Greece and Italy so it is possible that the British Isles use a different plug.

Gary

GaCop
01-22-2011, 05:13 PM
I was stationed in the United Kingdom. They use 240/50. The plugs are humongous affairs with fuses in the plug and three flat prongs, almost as big as our 220 plug. Germany in the late 60s used a small round prong plug with no ground.

EFBell
01-22-2011, 06:22 PM
I have 240 3 phase power in my garage direct from the pole. No noisy phase converter . It's nice to have if I ever get a lathe or a bridgeport. My Square wave Tig welder is single phase so no probelm powering it. The old Miller DC welder I had was 3 phase.

acdame
01-22-2011, 09:49 PM
Must be a Euro thing.

But it is lower amps. Remember Power=VoltsXAMPS. Same power with 220v-2phase means less amperage which means less heat, usually and things can last longer. Not really any cheaper to run, except for the heat lost in the 110v config.

Yes, 3phase is where all the cool stuff is, but thats a whole other topic.

lal357
01-22-2011, 11:01 PM
yep the higher the volts the lower the amp draw .

mattri
01-25-2011, 02:23 AM
That's true but is also phase specific.

flashhole
01-29-2011, 12:25 PM
110 volts is generated phase to ground from a 220 volt feed line, 220 volts is phase to phase with equal but opposite half cycles of AC operation. There is no 220 volts phase to ground. Phase will not cause more or less efficient opperation, it's simply the method used to generate the voltage. Power is power (volt amps) and 100 watts of power developed from a 110 volt circuit will generate the same amount of heat as 100 watts of power developed from a 220 volt circuit. Motors are constructed differently for the specific voltage feed you have access to. In the US we have 110 VAC as standard wall power. In Europe and other countries their standard is 220 VAC. It is not difficult to bring a 220 volt circuit out of your main breaker box if you know what you are doing. If you are like me, you build long extension cords to run your welder and change out the plug to match the wife's clothes dryer. Not the ideal set up but it works.