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Mrgunslinger
12-25-2010, 10:19 PM
The one thing about savage that really makes no sense,is why is the rear piller cut out the way it is.
On every savage that I have ever messed with I always remove the cut rear piller and install a solid one.
Very simple fix that would take no extra time at the factory.
What are they thinking.
ATTENTION RON COBURN!

hailstone
12-25-2010, 10:35 PM
I always thought it was necessary for sear rotation clearance.

82boy
12-25-2010, 11:44 PM
Can you show how you used a solid pillar on a Savage rifle?
The pillar is cut that way to clear the sear.

Mrgunslinger
12-26-2010, 01:20 AM
You have to think outside the box on this one.
I will get some pictures if someonew will help me post them.

geargrinder
12-26-2010, 04:16 AM
Looking forward to this one.

wbm
12-26-2010, 02:05 PM
Looking forward to this one.


You bet!

Mrgunslinger
12-26-2010, 03:17 PM
So who is going to post some pictures for me?

geargrinder
12-26-2010, 03:21 PM
I will I pm'd you my email.

Mrgunslinger
12-26-2010, 04:49 PM
Pictures sent to you geargrinder

geargrinder
12-26-2010, 06:47 PM
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http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee269/geargrinder123/PC260522.jpg

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Mrgunslinger
12-26-2010, 06:54 PM
And there you have it.
So easy that a cave man can do it!
Or why didnt I think of that!
The groups posted are fireform 5 shot groups 6mm PPC savage!

82boy
12-26-2010, 07:18 PM
That's is what I figured you did was notch the sear. Many on the site over the years has tried this method. Just be careful because the sears are known to crack half, starting right up the thin area between the notch and hole.

Mrgunslinger
12-26-2010, 07:23 PM
I have been doing this for 20 years.
Never have had one crack.

sharpshooter
12-26-2010, 07:47 PM
Savage has been notching pillars since '96 and haven't any problems, either.
If you haven't cracked a sear yet, consider yourself lucky... many have tryed it and failed. Despite what popular belief is, there is nothing wrong with a notched pillar.

82boy
12-26-2010, 08:15 PM
I have been doing this for 20 years.
Never have had one crack.


The older Savage three piece sears did not have the indexing hole that the newer stamped versions do have.

Mrgunslinger
12-26-2010, 08:43 PM
If there is nothing wrong with the rear piller then why do people play with torque settings and such.
So when you torque the rear bolt to tight,it isnt flexing the action with a notched piller set up?
My findings is that it does.
For the benefits that I see,you are foolish in not doing it this way.
When you build your house you want a solid foundation dont you?
This is something that savage could improve on to help them be the BEST!
You always got to make advances or you will be left behind.
Do it your way and I will do it mine.
There is a reason the rifles that I build shoot really really well!
Well thats one of the reasons!

sinman
12-26-2010, 09:41 PM
you could drill your pillar off center and just have lesser pillar towards the shear, nothing needs to be notched then.

geargrinder
12-26-2010, 09:45 PM
Or a thinner rear pillar.

dsculley
12-27-2010, 12:34 AM
Sinman beat me to it. I have not pillar bedded my 110 yet, but I plan to make my own pillar and drill the hole off center so it can be set forward so that neither the pillar nor the sear needs to be notched.

I have not used him yet, but based on what I have read in his posts I would listen to Sinman.

Eric in NC
12-27-2010, 09:54 AM
People play with torque settings etc. with every action, pillar system, etc. etc. out there (even custom actions). Not unique to Savage. Give people a screw or bolt and they will turn it to try to get a better result!

If you don't carefully profile the tops of the pillars to the unique contour of the bottom of your receiver (most Savages I have seen are at least a little warped) the larger metal to metal contact area just makes for more variability.

Of course - if it works for you, more power to you!