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Ed K
10-30-2023, 05:26 PM
Posting about the integrated ring & base setup that Talley has been making for some time now. Unlike Leupold & Burris who generously post very detailed specs on their rings & mounts, Talley does not. I see that for the Encore they have centerfire and rimfire models. Does anyone know the difference? The only difference between a typical 1" rifle scope vs rimfire would be internal: parallax. Not really expecting forum members to be a reference on the Talley part of this but is there anything different about an Encore rimfire barrel itself that would affect the base? Is it standard 1" diameter at the breach like all of the others?

edit: as soon as posting I realized the title doesn't reflect that I'm asking more about the barrel but I can't edit - oh well.

sunnysmarine
10-30-2023, 09:21 PM
must have to do with the bore off center, negative angle to compensate

North Country Gal
10-30-2023, 09:26 PM
Posting about the integrated ring & base setup that Talley has been making for some time now. Unlike Leupold & Burris who generously post very detailed specs on their rings & mounts, Talley does not. I see that for the Encore they have centerfire and rimfire models. Does anyone know the difference? The only difference between a typical 1" rifle scope vs rimfire would be internal: parallax. Not really expecting forum members to be a reference on the Talley part of this but is there anything different about an Encore rimfire barrel itself that would affect the base? Is it standard 1" diameter at the breach like all of the others?

edit: as soon as posting I realized the title doesn't reflect that I'm asking more about the barrel but I can't edit - oh well.

The contour at the top of the barrel where the base mounts is likely the difference as far as a scope base. Here's a pic of a factory Rochester stainless Encore 22 barrel on the left with a standard Encore blued barrel on the right. I have the standard Weaver #410 base mounted on the 22 barrel. It works fine, even though the barrel is obviously flat on the mounting surface, not rounded. The standard barrel is rounded under a base, of course. That's my guess, anyway. Might want to call Warne to verify.
https://i.postimg.cc/Ls04jzQK/P1110658.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

Ed K
10-30-2023, 09:49 PM
The contour at the top of the barrel where the base mounts is likely the difference as far as a scope base. Here's a pic of a factory Rochester stainless Encore 22 barrel on the left with a standard Encore blued barrel on the right. I have the standard Weaver #410 base mounted on the 22 barrel. It works fine, even though the barrel is obviously flat on the mounting surface, not rounded. The standard barrel is rounded under a base, of course. That's my guess, anyway. Might want to call Warne to verify.


Maybe your "guess" is about 100% likely from what I see. Had never laid eyes on a rimfire barrel and as they say a picture is worth 1000 words. By the way the reason I was asking is because Talley has them marked 75% off at $15 in case you want a better fitting mount for your barrel. Me? I was looking to use on a round centerfire barrel so I will pass. Thanks, Ed

North Country Gal
10-30-2023, 11:38 PM
You are very welcome. Thanks for the tip on the rimfire mount.

North Country Gal
11-07-2023, 10:35 PM
I bought the Talley rimfire version and yeah, much nicer fit. Again, thanks for the tip.
https://i.postimg.cc/SKb8T1Y2/IMG-0229.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

This Encore 22 LR barrel has been interesting. I bought it sight unseen off of e-bay. Mounted a scope on it and took it to the range. Serious problem with extraction from the first round. I could just pull CCI SVs after a couple tries, but my preferred Eley, I had to pry out with a pocket knife. Too frustrated to even check for accuracy, so I took the barrel home and it sat for awhile. One rainy day, I got around to checking the chamber, and sure enough, very rough. Took me an hour of polishing, test firing and more polishing, but now it extracts all brands of ammo, no problem.

Set it aside, again, but finally packed it along with some other guns on a range trip. At the end of the session, I gave it a try with the Eley subsonic HPs, because the Exemplar I was shooting just before liked them, too. First two groups at 50 yards, just under half inch, so I got serious and went to work with one more group. https://i.postimg.cc/XYsKJkrp/P1110644.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

I think this barrel will be good company for the Exemplar.

BobT
11-08-2023, 06:01 AM
Looks like you have a good shooter, I didn't realize there was a difference in the mounts until reading this thread.

jpx2rk
11-08-2023, 08:21 AM
Congrats on getting the barrel/chamber straightened out and got it to shooting good. Enjoy.

junebug
11-08-2023, 12:52 PM
It stinks that you should have to work on a new barrel but they are not all ready to go right from the factory. Kudos to you for hanging in there ,recognizing the problem and fixing it. Thus giving the barrel a true opportunity to shine.:p

North Country Gal
11-08-2023, 05:16 PM
Thanks, guys. Yeah, that accuracy was worth the little bit of work.

BobT
11-08-2023, 05:29 PM
Thanks, guys. Yeah, that accuracy was worth the little bit of work.

By the way, Welcome to the forum!

North Country Gal
11-09-2023, 12:16 PM
Thank-you. Years back, I used to post on the now extinct Specialty pistols forum, but eventually sold off most of my specialty pistols when I was offered prices I couldn't refuse. I've been building the collection back up, recently, but this tine around, just concentrating on my favorites in each category.