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czgunner
10-22-2023, 04:02 PM
Is there a list of who is doing this? I'm trying to fix the cratering I am getting with my rifle.

Thanks!
Dave Hoback
10-22-2023, 04:19 PM
You want to contact Desh. He’ll sort you out. Here his site. https://deshind.com/2017/09/04/savage-bolt-bushing/
sharpshooter
10-22-2023, 07:07 PM
Cratering is nothing more than a visual annoyance, but before you bush the pin, try re-contouring the pin tip to a larger radius.
czgunner
10-23-2023, 12:06 AM
You want to contact Desh. He’ll sort you out. Here his site. https://deshind.com/2017/09/04/savage-bolt-bushing/
Thanks, I reached out to him.
czgunner
10-23-2023, 12:07 AM
Cratering is nothing more than a visual annoyance, but before you bush the pin, try re-contouring the pin tip to a larger radius.
Thanks, I didn't realize it was purely visual. I wouldn't know how to cleanly modify my firing pin.
Dave Hoback
10-23-2023, 08:07 AM
It’s only a problem if the striker pin is too pointy allowing the radius to sit below the surface of the pin hole. This allows the pin to move laterally causing primer cratering/smearing. If your primer strikes look ok, it’s fine.

This is a perfect striker pin shape & protrusion. If yours looks even similar to this, it’s in fine shape. If you are able to post a picture we can tell you how it looks.
https://i.ibb.co/bHvT1sd/F3739723-E571-4-C15-B7-D5-D36-F28-F12299.png (https://ibb.co/CJ9gBb0)
Nor Cal Mikie
10-23-2023, 09:03 AM
Ever consider it "could be" a brass problem and NOT a firing pin issue? Brass too short for the chamber, when fired, primer tries to back out of the pocket, gets "cratered" and pushed back into the pocket? Just thinking out loud.;)
czgunner
10-23-2023, 09:05 AM
Ever consider it "could be" a brass problem and NOT a firing pin issue? Brass too short for the chamber, when fired, primer tries to back out of the pocket, gets "cratered" and pushed back into the pocket? Just thinking out loud.;)I verified headspace with clymer gauges. Brass is measured and bumped back .002".

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KMW1954
10-23-2023, 06:49 PM
Is there a list of who is doing this? I'm trying to fix the cratering I am getting with my rifle.

Thanks!

If you do a quick search you soon find this is a common problem with Savage rifles. My Model 11 exhibits the same symptom. Use CCI 400 primers and I get cratering and pierced. Use CCI 450 and I get light strikes and FTF.
tomme boy
10-25-2023, 01:42 AM
Cratering is nothing more than a visual annoyance, but before you bush the pin, try re-contouring the pin tip to a larger radius.
until it blanks the primer then it is a problem.
Dave Hoback
10-25-2023, 02:52 AM
There is that. Yeah, I’d take care of it. I did by way of a a PTG bolt head & still happy I did. Bushing works well, it makes the Striker more efficient & Desh does an amazing job. You won’t be disappointed.
MS50
10-26-2023, 06:33 AM
Dave, are you saying that PTG bolt heads are made to specs that don't require bushing using Savage OEM firing pins? I thought I read something somewhere about PTG bolt heads in regards to this issue, but I can't find it.
Dave Hoback
10-26-2023, 11:23 AM
Dave, are you saying that PTG bolt heads are made to specs that don't require bushing using Savage OEM firing pins? I thought I read something somewhere about PTG bolt heads in regards to this issue, but I can't find it.

The PTG bolt heads are machined to tighter specs. They have fixed cratering conditions for some. But so does bolt bushing. And at much less expense. Also, the PTG bolts heads typically need to be fit. And then headspaced. I didn’t by a rifle & start changing things out. I built my Savage from the start because, well, that’s what I do. I also machined a firing pin striker to fit perfectly. Everything about firearms is hobby to me.

I’m not trying to discourage or encourage. If trying to fix a potential problem, there are more straightforward ways. And if it’s hobby, I don’t have to recommend either way.
MS50
10-26-2023, 12:53 PM
I understand what you're saying. I use PTG bolt heads on a 6br and 223 that were installed prior to headspacing aftermarket barrels. Neither rifle craters primers. I wouldn't replace bolt heads to solve a cratering problem. I'd get the bolt head bushed as a first measure.
czgunner
10-26-2023, 01:13 PM
Thanks everybody. I sent my bolt off just now.

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Turkeytider
10-26-2023, 02:28 PM
Thanks everybody. I sent my bolt off just now.

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czgunner, did you send your bolt to Desh? My understanding is that they were currently not taking any new work due to illness.
czgunner
10-26-2023, 02:33 PM
czgunner, did you send your bolt to Desh? My understanding is that they were currently not taking any new work due to illness.Yes, I sent it to him. He advised me that it will take several weeks due to his health.

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Turkeytider
10-26-2023, 02:49 PM
Yes, I sent it to him. He advised me that it will take several weeks due to his health.

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Right. He told me to get in touch with him in November if I had anything I wanted done.
Dave Hoback
10-26-2023, 05:42 PM
Didn’t know he was having problems. Anyway, for those wondering, here is Desh so he’s not just a name to deal with, LOL!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sGM-5cDJiY
KMW1954
10-26-2023, 06:08 PM
Didn’t know he was having problems. Anyway, for those wondering, here is Desh so he’s not just a name to deal with, LOL!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sGM-5cDJiY

Fantastic! Thanks for sharing that.