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Got Diesel
12-10-2010, 07:28 PM
I was wondering if there's anyway to remove some of the bolt slop in the rear of the action. The one I am tinkering with is one of my long actions.

The problem is when cycling or working the bolt. I don't mind the bolt lift itself, and I understand how to lighten that if needed. What I am asking about is actually pulling the bolt backward, then forward again. If you don't work the bolt slowly and perfectly straight with the rear action raceway, then the bolt drags thus removing it's smoothness.

Anyone have a fix for this? Thanks Kyle.

82boy
12-11-2010, 01:15 AM
Buy a Dave Kiff bolt body from PTG.

savageboy
12-11-2010, 08:26 AM
That would be known as one of the features of a Savage rifle.

Got Diesel
12-11-2010, 09:43 AM
I understand that the way the bolt is designed with a floating bolt head that there will be some slop. I can live with some. It's just this one here that's really bad which is what I was wondering.

I will look for the other bolt body. Thanks.

savageboy
12-11-2010, 12:44 PM
I put a PTG .701" fluted bolt body in my 6brx F class rig. I am very happy I did it, but it was like $110. If this was a fun rifle, not competition, I would never have spent the money

Blue Avenger
12-11-2010, 02:15 PM
I am very happy I did it, but it was like $110. If this was a fun rifle, not competition, I would never have spent the money


happy as in it feels better or did you see a group change?

Dirk
12-11-2010, 02:51 PM
How on Earth could there possibly be a group change?

Blue Avenger
12-11-2010, 02:59 PM
shooter confidence ;)

Dirk
12-11-2010, 03:03 PM
You have a point there. I was only considering mechanical aspects.

savageboy
12-11-2010, 05:05 PM
Actually, dont know, never shot the action w/ the orig bolt. I have 3 other sav. actions, and wanted this one to be "tighter" whatever that means. I can tell you, I won one of the relays in my 1st F class match with it, and was the overall winner in the F open class in the 2nd match I shot w/ it. I was fireforming brass to 6brx too, so the question is: would I have the same results w the orig bolt? I would like to think so, but then again, since I spent the money and it looks cool maybe not. The rifle shoots unbelievable.

82boy
12-12-2010, 12:58 AM
Trust me, that bolt slop will not make any diference on how the guns shoots.

bigedp51
12-12-2010, 12:46 PM
Trust me, that bolt slop will not make any diference on how the guns shoots.


+1 with 82boy

BUT bolt slop does matter on "where" you shoot a rifle. (sometimes a little extra "clearance" helps prevent jams) ;)

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o254/bigedp51/39.jpg

bigedp51
12-12-2010, 01:41 PM
Got Diesel

The Savage design Engineers spent a lot of time figuring out how to make the most accurate rifle possible for the least amount of $money$.

I think the secret is the floating bolt head which allows both locking lugs the bear evenly on the locking lug recesses in the receiver. If you try and tighten things up you might remove too much "wiggle room" which could effect the bolt heads ability to "float" and self align with the bore.

On a standard bolt action rifle like a Remington 700 the bolt raceway in the receiver controls alignment and if the receiver on a military M24/M40 sniper rifle is excessively worn the receiver is scraped.

To the people in this forum I would think the two most important items would be lapping the lugs to ensure an equal amount of contact on both bolt lugs and the bolt face being true and 90 degrees to the axis of the bore.

Don't worry about what is "behind" the pivot pin, what is forward of the pin is what really matters.
(there is far less bolt slop on your Savage rifle than on a 98 Mauser type action) ;D

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o254/bigedp51/IMGP6477-a.jpg

savageboy
12-12-2010, 02:14 PM
http://savageshooters.com/SavageForum/index.php/topic,35863.msg252597.html#msg252597 The stock bolt dosent look this sexy though :)

82boy
12-12-2010, 05:02 PM
The stock bolt dosent look this sexy though :)


Well I may beg to differ, with the same amount of work they sure can look just as nice.
http://savageshooters.com/SavageForum/index.php/topic,32060.0.html

http://savageshooters.com/SavageForum/index.php/topic,27810.0.html

savageboy
12-12-2010, 06:40 PM
SSS does awsome work for sure