110 action redesign?

[haulinbass08]

So I am in the market for a new rifle and been looking at an Edge in 7mm-08. I actually put my hands on 110 Timberline at a gun store and noticed the receiver is different than the 116 I bought 13 years ago. When did they redesign the receiver into more of a closed top and for what reason? What other design changes were made at that time?

On edit, looking at Savage’s website, it looks like the Timberline is “factory blueprinted” and the only rifle that has a action with a side ejection port and a “closed top”. Any ideas why?


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[efm77]

The closed top is to make it stiffer. I would guess they're replicating their 338LM and target actions which are also closed top and only have the side ejection port.

[Dave Hoback]

They have used the “Port” style Action a few times. The big difference in the 110 Timberline, it uses a BBR (Bottom Bolt Release). However, if you look at the the Savage 110 Scout, it’s also a Port style Receiver, but uses the recognizable TBR (Top Bolt Release). The position of the Bolt Release plays a part in wanting to use a different stock/chassis. And as emf77 pointed out, it is a stiffer Action. Which is why it’s the style used in the Model 12 Target, the 110 Precision & 110 Elite Precision which all also use the TBR.

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[haulinbass08]

I realized after perusing a little more, it seemed to be used in the precision type rifles and had the factory blueprinted action description in all the listings. It does make sense that it is a stiffer action. Thanks for helping clarify that up. Still got a Savage in my sights for my kiddo, just took me by surprise on the receiver change!


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[charlie b]

I always wondered why they didn't make all their actions that way, especially when the Axis line is a small port style. Same could be said for any other mfg bolt action for that matter.

I understand the history of it, going back to stripper clips and loading from the top. But once detachable magazines are used the open top is kind of a waste.

[Dave Hoback]

I always wondered why they didn't make all their actions that way, especially when the Axis line is a small port style. Same could be said for any other mfg bolt action for that matter.

I understand the history of it, going back to stripper clips and loading from the top. But once detachable magazines are used the open top is kind of a waste.

Because Savages have always been viewed as no more than hunting rifles. And even now they are still predominantly looked at in that light. A hunting rifle it’s more beneficial to have an open Receiver in case of needing to manually clear a jam. But I agree Charlie. I wish more were readily available in this style. The Stainless Precision Elite Receiver in Nitride is the one I want above all.

[Dave Hoback]

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[Robinhood]

Because Savages have always been viewed as no more than hunting rifles. And even now they are still predominantly looked at in that light. A hunting rifle it’s more beneficial to have an open Receiver in case of needing to manually clear a jam. But I agree Charlie. I wish more were readily available in this style. The Stainless Precision Elite Receiver in Nitride is the one I want above all.http://www.savageshooters.com/blob:https://www.savageshooters.com/01712942-91ca-401f-92c8-a09034f2ef57 I pretty much agree. The sloppy bolt with a heavy lift, the cheap trigger design didn't help much. Perpetuating and utilizing the controll round feed may have helped people overlook some of that. Fixing the bolt lift and close issue would have helped push through that..... Would of could of should of. :tea:

[charlie b]

LOL

Yeah, I just put this on my list of things mfgs should do. Like make all magazines AICS std. Trigger 'interface' standard. Std barrel threads. etc, etc.

But, of course, then no mfg could claim to offer 'special' stuff to get the public to buy from them. They'd actually have to make a rifle better than everyone else.

[J.Baker]

Two simple reasons that go hand-in-hand as to why we're seeing more and more smaller port Savage's.

1. Since everything is fed by a DBM these days, there's no need for a big port on top to facilitate loading like was needed with the older blind magazine models.
2. Less machining = less time = more profit.

[charlie b]

LOL, I would not have figured out that a 'stiffer' action was cheaper to produce :)

[Dave Hoback]

Yeah, nice little side effect.