Oldie but goodie? Savage model 16

[Dave Hoback]

I’m going to do exactly what Baker siad to do, take the gun out as is and see where it’s at. But I have already put on a limbsaver airtech pad. I bought the pad for my Remington 770 before I knew just how trash that gun was. A slight modification to the pad made it fit on the 116. In your alls’ professional opinions, will the pad be enough and I don’t need to worry about a brake?


Yes, that was the general consensus from several of us. Sorry it wasn’t more clear. But yeah, should never replace a bunch of components to start. Always have a base line and upgrade parts accordingly.

The limbsaver pad will be fine. I wouldn’t use a brake for 7RM, but that’s up to you. I’m not a fan of muzzle brakes. Noise makers & percussion intensifiers they are! :biggrin-new:

[charlie b]

The brake is a personal thing. Depends a lot oh how much you plan on shooting it and how well you manage the recoil.

There are a lot of guys who have used the .300Win Mag in shooting competition without brakes.

[Trav]

Anyone have a recommendation on a picatinny for the flat back? Talley or EGW? I’d like one with a bubble level built in but can’t seem to find one for a flat back.

[Dave Hoback]

Both are good. I prefer the Talley myself. I’ve always been a big fan of their scope rails. I use the Short Action, 20MOA rail and love it. Great look. Great fit. Exceptionally high quality. And Talley gives great customer service.

Honestly, the bubble level rails are a gimmick!! Think about it… when you are on scope, the bubble level in the rail is far too low to see. You would need to come off scope & move your head/eyesight down to see it correctly. Which completely makes the point of having it moot! Where as the scope tube mount bubble level is right there at eye level, easily seen from the corner of one’s vision without ever coming off scope or target.

Watch out for gimmicks! Something might seem like a good idea until you put it into practice. Trick is to really think about its use BEFORE wasting money on a gimmicky product.

[Trav]

Both are good. I prefer the Talley myself. I’ve always been a big fan of their scope rails. I use the Short Action, 20MOA rail and love it. Great look. Great fit. Exceptionally high quality. And Talley gives great customer service.

Honestly, the bubble level rails are a gimmick!! Think about it… when you are on scope, the bubble level in the rail is far too low to see. You would need to come off scope & move your head/eyesight down to see it correctly. Which completely makes the point of having it moot! Where as the scope tube mount bubble level is right there at eye level, easily seen from the corner of one’s vision without ever coming off scope or target.

Watch out for gimmicks! Something might seem like a good idea until you put it into practice. Trick is to really think about its use BEFORE wasting money on a gimmicky product.

That’s a very valid point and makes complete sense. I’m glad I asked! I’ll stick with a scope mounted level.

I was just looking at the Talley website and they offer a scope-ring base combo for the flat back. The description sounds great but I’m a rookie so I may be falling for another gimmick. I’ll copy and paste the description below…

“Made in America, these Savage pre-Accutrigger Scope Mounts made by Talley Manufacturing offer a unique and simplified one-piece scope ring and base solution for Savage pre-Accutrigger rifles with flat rear receivers. This simplified mounting system eliminates the possibility of an “out of alignment” interface or “loose connection” between the ring and base of traditional two-piece designs. Ultimately this provides more strength and durability than rival steel rings and bases, but with a lighter overall weight. Fully CNC machined from lightweight aircraft-grade aluminum to the industries tightest tolerances, this rigid scope mounting platform requires no lapping and is ready to go out of the box.”

Sounds like a no brainer for $55.95. I’m too gullible. I’m also grateful for all the wisdom you folks have here, so thank you so much for your time!

[PhilC]

Do you happen to know what the stock pull weight is? The gun is likely unchanged from factory settings, but I’m not 100% on that.
From the factory probably in the vicinity of 3.5 - 4lbs. My flat back 7RM trigger, untouched from the factory, is 3.5lbs.

[Dave Hoback]

That’s a very valid point and makes complete sense. I’m glad I asked! I’ll stick with a scope mounted level.

I was just looking at the Talley website and they offer a scope-ring base combo for the flat back. The description sounds great but I’m a rookie so I may be falling for another gimmick. I’ll copy and paste the description below…

“Made in America, these Savage pre-Accutrigger Scope Mounts made by Talley Manufacturing offer a unique and simplified one-piece scope ring and base solution for Savage pre-Accutrigger rifles with flat rear receivers. This simplified mounting system eliminates the possibility of an “out of alignment” interface or “loose connection” between the ring and base of traditional two-piece designs. Ultimately this provides more strength and durability than rival steel rings and bases, but with a lighter overall weight. Fully CNC machined from lightweight aircraft-grade aluminum to the industries tightest tolerances, this rigid scope mounting platform requires no lapping and is ready to go out of the box.”

Sounds like a no brainer for $55.95. I’m too gullible. I’m also grateful for all the wisdom you folks have here, so thank you so much for your time!

Those are fine. I prefer the Picatinny rail & Rings. But I only use Talley for the Picatinny rail. I use another brand of 7075 Aluminum scope rings. Funny enough, the Picatinny rings I use have a bubble level in them. But that’s not why I got them, LOL! Some people like the two piece mount style as you are looking at. They are very affordable as a bonus. But you will find that ALL professional shootists use the One Piece Picatinny rail & Rings setup. Nothing wrong with the Talley Picatinny rings either. I simply prefer another brand. I’ll be honest with you my friend. You are going to receive as different options for Rail & Rings setups as people who will respond. Everyone has their own favorite, and reasons why. I’m not going to try to convince you to get this or that. I’m going to tell you the truth. ALL the well known manufacturers of Scope Mounts, Rail & Rings work! They all do what they are supposed to. Some do it a little better, but you’d never know unless you are using very large, powerful cartridges with Bone Jarring recoil. Shooting standard cartridges, they all work! Even the cheap, CHINESIUM mounts from eBay work…. Not the best… but they work. It’s just they won’t last, and break easier. And they are ugly. And that’s really what it’s about. Scope mounting (among the high quality manufacturers), is about the looks that each person prefers. Or perhaps the “Name” of a specific manufacturer. Some choose products based on a name. So there it is. Any all of the US manufacturers have high quality products. It’s good to look at them, do your own research (exactly like you are doing already), and choose the one which appeals to you, and fits your budget. Sorry for the long account.. but that is the truth of the matter.

By the by: here is a pic of the Talley Pic rail & other Rings I use.
https://i.ibb.co/vQF01yV/2-A1-CDE91-5928-40-CC-A5-C1-84-A6-E439-D5-B4.jpg (https://ibb.co/YyCH2nP)

https://i.ibb.co/3sCnN30/46-E14371-32-E9-460-F-9170-74-DEF2-AE1336.jpg (https://ibb.co/yRQry98)

[Dave Hoback]

Do you happen to know what the stock pull weight is? The gun is likely unchanged from factory settings, but I’m not 100% on that.

LOL… I missed this. Luckily Phil noticed. HAHAHA. I agree with Phil. Hopefully you have a Three Screw trigger. If you want, at some point, pull the Action from the stock & take some pics of the trigger. If you have trouble with posting pictures, you can text them or email them to me & I’ll host them here for you. And again, I set triggers up for members here at no charge. Also, I make lighter bar springs for the older trigger as well. I can just send you one if you’d like. Again, no charge. PM me in the future if ever interested.