Savage 6.5 Creedmoor PRS

[Robinhood]

Ya know.. just not worth it. I’ve never lied here. Show examples or it’s just you talking!

Ive never said I did any of this for a living. I’ve only ever said I was a Hobbyist! Please, show me where I said any different? Otherwise it’s just you talking.



I’m a Gunsmith, Knifemaker, & Machinist…with ONE arm! What’s your SUPERPOWER?:)


I think it’s a bit unrealistic WITHOUT very high cost machinery & tooling. Like several $100,000’s high cost.

Implying that I am not knowledgeable enough to understand what I am talking about. You insult people all of the time and you act like a victim when you are called on it. We all have the ability to make ourselves look foolish.

I watched you challenge the information I offered the OP. Then you ignorantly tried to make my response look stupid by chasing down specs on the internet. I again spoke truth. Now your trying to put it on me. I only responded to help you identify that you are not the Gunsmith or Machinist you claim to be. I am going to call you out as a fraud. I will give you credit when you deserve it but if you are going to bust my chops David, I will use facts to educate you and set the story straight. BS is not traction, it is the opposite. I have no agenda except to keep a bully in his place.

[Dave Hoback]

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[Dave Hoback]

You’re right. I worded that wrong. I wasn’t calling you out or implying you did not know anything. Wasn’t how I meant it. And for that Im sorry. But you very clearly did say those things about me, even insinuating Im lying.

Ya know, when I lived in Tucson, I knew a guy who worked for Raytheon. If you showed what you do & called yourself a “Machinist” Robin, he would laugh & very firmly insist HE was a machinist, and you are a DIY’er. Just as he did to me. He was a despicable person. But what HE did, was his criteria for being a “machinist”. I didn’t agree with him. My first statement was wrong, not what I meant. My point was that .0002” is not easy. It’s not a starting point of accuracy; it’s the end game for most people. It’s what people strive for & it’s easy to find many, many very qualified people struggle with that type of accuracy. I can’t hold .0002”! Not even close. I can keep most things in about .0015” or so. Which is fine for my projects. But the way that guy in AZ would rebuke you (& most gunsmiths for that matter). People have their own criteria from things, I guess.

Explain how my signature is stating I do it for a living? I don’t even make custom knives for a living. I just make them because it’s enjoyable. Or is that one of the things I have someone else do & lie about, as you so spitefully put it? (I changed the Sig just for you man.)

In any case, I am sorry what I said sounded like it did. Not what I meant. Pretty sure I’ve ONLY said you are a better machinist than I’ll ever be. So, thanks for that.

[charlie b]

I routinely worked with people who held better than .0001" accuracy, and frequently not using super expensive equipment. Some of them were like that guy at Raytheon, since I worked for that company and the Tucson folks did work for me every now and then. They are people who do precision work on a daily basis. It is not what the run of the mill gunsmith does. But, a run of the mill gunsmith is not capable of building a true precision rifle. I've seen results from some of these 'professionals' and it ranges from horrible to barely adequate.

I think Robin's first comment was just that. It takes a good gunsmith to do precision rifle work, ie, good enough to compete. And they will hold tolerances above the 'norm'. And, because of that knowledge and time, they cost accordingly.

[Robinhood]

https://www.thecrucible.org/guides/machining/machinist/

[Robinhood]

You’re right. I worded that wrong. I wasn’t calling you out or implying you did not know anything. Wasn’t how I meant it. And for that Im sorry. But you very clearly did say those things about me, even insinuating Im lying.

Ya know, when I lived in Tucson, I knew a guy who worked for Raytheon. If you showed what you do & called yourself a “Machinist” Robin, he would laugh & very firmly insist HE was a machinist, and you are a DIY’er. Just as he did to me. He was a despicable person. But what HE did, was his criteria for being a “machinist”. I didn’t agree with him. My first statement was wrong, not what I meant. My point was that .0002” is not easy. It’s not a starting point of accuracy; it’s the end game for most people. It’s what people strive for & it’s easy to find many, many very qualified people struggle with that type of accuracy. I can’t hold .0002”! Not even close. I can keep most things in about .0015” or so. Which is fine for my projects. But the way that guy in AZ would rebuke you (& most gunsmiths for that matter). People have their own criteria from things, I guess.

Explain how my signature is stating I do it for a living? I don’t even make custom knives for a living. I just make them because it’s enjoyable. Or is that one of the things I have someone else do & lie about, as you so spitefully put it? (I changed the Sig just for you man.)

In any case, I am sorry what I said sounded like it did. Not what I meant. Pretty sure I’ve ONLY said you are a better machinist than I’ll ever be. So, thanks for that.

You can do anything you want Dave, I only care when you include me or anyone I may have some respect for in your condescending or self promotional posts and/or responses. I don't care for the "constant cross the line/blame shift, then kiss and make up" game. I watch my grand kids do the same thing.
Is this ok? in your sig

And then you state "I’ve ONLY said you are a better machinist than I’ll ever be", I have never seen you post that. Never. You conflate fantasy with facts on a regular basis. Maybe Just STFU.

I will be the first to say, I am not the best at anything, but I am very good at a few things.. I will do anything to help anyone including mailing tools or going to meet someone to help them. I have flaws that are very obvious to me. I am learning to not show them or somebody will expose them. It is possible there is a lesson for you.

I am not going to respond on this anymore. It is disrespectful to the OP and the other forum readers. I simply attempted to give him what I felt was sound advice. I apologize to him and the rest of the forum for dragging this post in the mud.

Have a blessed day brothers of the barrel nut.