Savage 12fv

[cknight814]

I would agree also, the Oryx is about the best bang for the buck right now. I have one on a TC Compass rifle (I know stupid to spend more on the chassis than the $300 rifle, but it also wears a $500 vortex and shoots lights out) and I really like that Chassis. I also have a MDT LSS-XL Gen 2 on a savage and it is a very nice chassis also. There are a bunch of great ones, but like Dave said it only goes up in price.

Magpul says the Hunter stock is coming, and MDT has an Oryx Field Stock in the works also. Those should be a little less than the $400 Oryx chassis, but its a waiting game on those. Another option would be a Boyd's Pro Varmint laminate stock and add the DBM bottom metal. I'm not sure what that would cost, but it'd be at or under the Oryx chassis price point...

[Dave Hoback]

If you’re looking for the cheapest, it’s the Trybe ROCS Chassis. https://www.opticsplanet.com/trybe-defense-rifle-chassis-system.html
Optics Planet is the sole proprietor of Trybe.

It's not bad, but I think the Oryx is still the better buy.

[chazz1975]

I like the look of that ROCS, but there are very few reviews for it. I guess it is a toss up between that and the Oryx.

[Dave Hoback]

The Trybe Chassis is very new. The Oryx has been out long enough it has a healthy number of reviewers. Also, it was backed by MDT, so that gave immediate clout with shooters. I’ve seen a few accounts on the Trybe, and it’s positive so far. I’ll say this.. it’s 6061 Billet like any other chassis. And it’s machined to a known size, for known Actions; just like any other chassis. The difference is it’s simple. There is no “quick adjustment” of anything- the LOP, the cheek riser. Everything is adjusted with spacers. So I’ll go out on a limb that you’d be safe getting one, as far as fitment, operation. And I do have experience with other Trybe parts. The machining they do is good. So I wouldn’t worry about that either. I still prefer the Oryx, but if you like the look of the Trybe more & want to save the $50, I believe you’ll do just fine for the $340.

Heres a in depth video on the ROCS if you haven’t seen it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PsUlQezwos

[wbm]

Question because I really do not know. Does a $3-400 Chassis on an FV result in a worthwhile change in accuracy?

[Dave Hoback]

Question because I really do not know. Does a $3-400 Chassis on an FV result in a worthwhile change in accuracy?

Maybe, maybe not. The point to a chassis is it offers the most Rigid & BEST method of eliminating Action screw creep. By means, this offers the greatest aptitude of accuracy. But it does not mean accuracy will improve just because. It’s the same with a barrel. If your Rifle is already shooting lights out with the factory barrel, swapping to a Bartlein is not likely going to increase accuracy. But it might.

[GrenGuy]

What is the definition of “Action screw creep” ?

[Robinhood]

I think he is pointing out that an un pillard stock will compress and the action screws will not maintain torque. Or was he.

[GrenGuy]

As far as I know?, the 12FV stock has always come with steel pillars. Mine came with a steel trigger guard. Even the old Stevens 200’s I have bought since 2007, that had plastic trigger guards, have steel inserts in them where the screws go. This provides steel on steel from the screw head to the action. It can take 60” #’s of torque, for those who think this is beneficial, without stressing the action.

By the way. The Remington BDL tupperware stock is NOT pillared. It is action, bottom metal, and TUPPERWARE MUSH IN BETWEEN.

[PhilC]

As far as I know?, the 12FV stock has always come with steel pillars. Mine came with a steel trigger guard.
Same here, my 12FV factory stock has steel pillars and trigger guard.

[Dave Hoback]

https://bisonballistics.com/articles/rifle-action-screws-torque-accuracy-and-bedding-issues

[jkv45]

https://bisonballistics.com/articles/rifle-action-screws-torque-accuracy-and-bedding-issues


Thanks Dave.

Do you know of any good tutorials for actually doing pillar bedding?

I'm thinking of pillar bedding my Savage Mark II in a Boyds Pro Varmint stock, but haven't done it before.

[Dave Hoback]

There are dozens & dozens of good videos & blogs. I don’t have any off top of my head I point to. But I always recommend people research many different avenues. Watch many different videos & blogs. You’ll be able to pick out the food from bad, because you’ll notice that some of them do things the same, with good results. So, if you watch 10 videos, and you see 6 of them who all do a lot of the same things with good results, well, there you go. I’ll take a look though to see if I can remember any.

[Dave Hoback]

I actually perused through, and remembered this one from just a couple years back. He does one of the most in depth “how to’s”. And it’s on a a Savage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3aydnQYFK0

I like Vaughn’s stuff to. He’s not quite intricate, but I like him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvmI2rQb7eM

[Balvar24]

Question because I really do not know. Does a $3-400 Chassis on an FV result in a worthwhile change in accuracy?

Depends on if there is a loose nut behind the sights.

There seems to be a large number of people that immediately modify for accuracy before shooting their rifle. How do you measure improvement without shooting first.

I sold a 40x once to a guy who said the first thing he was going to do was replace the barrel (22 lr). "Why?" I asked. His answer was so it would group better.

I told him to shoot it first. He kept the factory barrel. It would shoot above his ability.

[Dave Hoback]

That reminds me of people using a borescope in the bore and condemning the barrel before firing a single shot.

[jkv45]

I actually perused through, and remembered this one from just a couple years back. He does one of the most in depth “how to’s”. And it’s on a a Savage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3aydnQYFK0

I like Vaughn’s stuff to. He’s not quite intricate, but I like him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvmI2rQb7eM


Thanks Dave.

One more question - which is better, pillar bedding or bedding the receiver in the stock?

[Dave Hoback]

Both! Although it’s a highly debated point. And you’ll find several competing points of view. I’m a Chassis guy. So, the Action surrounded by a full Aluminum bed is my first choice. But for those working with stocks, I’d do Aluminum/steel pillars & full bedding. Leaving the tang not touching the stock surface of course.

[jkv45]

Both! Although it’s a highly debated point. And you’ll find several competing points of view. I’m a Chassis guy. So, the Action surrounded by a full Aluminum bed is my first choice. But for those working with stocks, I’d do Aluminum/steel pillars & full bedding. Leaving the tang not touching the stock surface of course.


Thanks Dave.

[charlie b]

Yes, both. The pillars give the action screws something solid to be torqued against. The bedding gives the receiver a solid connection to stock.

As Dave mentioned, the chassis does both.