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deadduck357
06-01-2022, 04:18 AM
What's going on with the receivers on the Timberland and Magpul Hunter?? Their receivers are closed in like the Axis, not open topped like 110s and 10s that I'm use to.

Dave Hoback
06-01-2022, 06:17 AM
Yes, Savage has used this style for several of their rifles. It is a 110 Action, I assure you. They have them in bottom bolt release, like the Timberline & also top bolt release, like the 110 Scout, 110 Haymaker or the 110 Precision. It’s just a closed port design. It is among the best Savage Actions, 2nd only only to the model 12 Target single shot, with 3-screws. The next Savage I build, I’m planning to source a used 110 Scout or Haymaker for it’s Action.

deadduck357
06-01-2022, 12:28 PM
Thanks. I like the looks of it but why not just give it another model number??

Dave Hoback
06-01-2022, 01:05 PM
Because there is no need. It simply would have alienated people that don’t understand it. It IS a 110 Action. Every part can be readily swapped from a standard open port style Action & one of these. (According to being TBR or BBR of course.)

Again, it’s the same style as a model 12 Target Action with the bottom inlet for magazine. Intact, the Stainless Steel model 12 Action IS inlet for a magazine & used in the 110 Elite Precision.

https://i.ibb.co/HzCwWr6/20-DDD8-A5-004-E-466-F-A550-D2-B087-BA2617.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

Dave Hoback
06-01-2022, 01:28 PM
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Robinhood
06-01-2022, 04:38 PM
The difference being it is a repeater action and it doesn't have the red blade target trigger is what I believe Dave is stating. I am curious as to the thread diameter for the barrel.....

Dave Hoback
06-01-2022, 07:05 PM
Well, the “Elite” Precision is Large Shank. It is he Target Action. Just inlet machined for the mag. But the believe the standard Precision is using BOTH Large & Small Shank. It is a Carbon Steel Action. I am sure of that. But research on the Shank size is showing both. Not sure.

Robinhood
06-01-2022, 07:47 PM
Go back a decade and you will find all of the old target style repeater actions like the BA and LRP actions were carbon steel.

Dave Hoback
06-01-2022, 08:12 PM
Yeah, they all were weren’t they. It’s a odd. Looking at pictures of the Precision, I’d swear some are Small shank & some are Large shank. But I don’t know.

Like I said though; I’ll have one eye out(well, the ONLY eye I have, LOL), for a used 110 Scout or Haymaker. I know they are Small shank & TBR Action. I am a fan of that closed port design. And I agree with the OP, it does look good.

deadduck357
06-01-2022, 09:55 PM
Yeah, they all were weren’t they. It’s a odd. Looking at pictures of the Precision, I’d swear some are Small shank & some are Large shank. But I don’t know.

Like I said though; I’ll have one eye out(well, the ONLY eye I have, LOL), for a used 110 Scout or Haymaker. I know they are Small shank & TBR Action. I am a fan of that closed port design. And I agree with the OP, it does look good.
Just noticed that the 110 Precision and Elite Precision both have this action. Would this "bridged" receiver be more rigid than the traditional open action? Hence the reason why it's used on their "precision" rifles. ???

Dave Hoback
06-01-2022, 10:34 PM
Yes. Anytime there is more material in an Action, it is more rigid. Also true of using a 1-piece vs 2-piece scope rail. But being more “rigid” alone, does not necessarily mean better accuracy. It’s simply a benefit for accuracy potential. I hope that makes sense. It’s really the 12 Target Action, which is 3-screw & single shot, which possesses the greatest attributes for best accuracy. (The picture I posted)


That said, it certainly does not hurt.

deadduck357
06-01-2022, 10:46 PM
Yes. Anytime there is more material in an Action, it is more rigid. Also true of using a 1-piece vs 2-piece scope rail. But being more “rigid” alone, does not necessarily mean better accuracy. It’s simply a benefit for accuracy potential. I hope that makes sense. It’s really the 12 Target Action, which is 3-screw & single shot, which possesses the greatest attributes for best accuracy. (The picture I posted)


That said, it certainly does not hurt.
Does make sense. I'm liking it. Hopefully more models and calibers will be added.

Robinhood
06-03-2022, 12:55 AM
On a serious hunting rifle where you might be carrying it in the back country or on mountain hunt, a blind magazine is a lighter option and the larger open loading/ejection port is preferable.

According to someone on this forum we all respect, there is little to no evidence that the fully shrouded action is any more accurate than one with the open loading/ejection port.

I think I would prefer the beefier action with the magnums. In Titanium would be a hoot. But the biggest and baddest I would own is probably a 280 AI, for hunting anyway. The long range rigs are a different story.

Dave Hoback
06-03-2022, 02:23 AM
My thoughts precisely.

deadduck357
06-03-2022, 05:13 AM
I think I would prefer the beefier action with the magnums.
The long range rigs are a different story.

I'd like to see this receiver on a rifle chambered in the rumored 7mm PRC. Or a 6.8 Western.

Fuj'
06-03-2022, 06:59 AM
I'd like to see this receiver on a rifle chambered in the rumored 7mm PRC. Or a 6.8 Western.

Try the 28 Nosler if you want a grin...

Dave Hoback
06-03-2022, 11:09 AM
Or a 7mm RUM, 7mm Weatherby if want merciless, teeth rattlin’ recoil. :crutch:

deadduck357
06-03-2022, 12:35 PM
Try the 28 Nosler if you want a grin...
No thanks. There's a guy at the range with one with a brake and no one will sit on a bench next to him.

deadduck357
06-03-2022, 12:39 PM
Or a 7mm RUM, 7mm Weatherby if want merciless, teeth rattlin’ recoil. :crutch:
Those are considerably more than I'm wanting to deal with.

deadduck357
06-03-2022, 12:39 PM
Double post.