Action Screws

[Dave Hoback]

Wanted to share this. I’ve used these guys for several years. I use 6AL4V Titanium bolts & screws anytime I can. All my custom work is done with Titanium screws. I run Chassis, so it’s easy as most use Allen Socket head screws. The stock Action screws are 1/4”-28 Panhead screws. But they also have Buttonhead, which can take the place of the Panhead. Web addy is: https://www.ti64.com/140ksi-titanium-bolts-s/110848.htm

These are 140Ksi strength... MUCH stronger than the stock screws. And they really aren’t any more expensive; maybe cheaper sometimes, depending. The two screws I just got for my new Chassis were $14 together. Besides strength, they are absolutely GEORGIOUS! And it’s Titanium... which is AWESOME, LOL.

https://i.ibb.co/vHbJxww/4-C669-DFC-8-F3-A-41-E5-A541-A3206-D1-B0-D42.jpg (https://ibb.co/HV0rDFF)

Just thought some might be interested.

[GaCop]

First time I've seen Titanium! :thumb: Gotta give them a try.

[Nor Cal Mikie]

A little "bling" never hurt anybody. :cool:

[Dave Hoback]

Technically, “Bling” is for show only. 6AL4V Titanium is much lighter & stronger than the steel used in standard screws. It just happens to be “perdy” in addition to, LOL!

[Phreddie30.06]

I have 3/8" diameter titanium rods in my back. I have snapped one of them. I understand titanium can be brittle.

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[Stumpkiller]

I like 'em. But I would be concerned that they won't suffer damage with a "whoops" and the tapped receiver holes will instead. Not that I think that's likely if you use normal care and a torque wrench.

[Dave Hoback]

No, not as brittle as steel. And they won’t cause the threaded holes any more damage than messing up with steel screws will do. You said it, just take care in threading & torquing.

[Wildcat]

Dave,
Those look nice. Have you ever used them with a non-chassis stock? If so, did you encounter any issues with the outside diameter of the ti socket head, pan head, or button head screws not fitting in the front action hole of the stock or the front trigger guard hole? If so, how did reduce the diameter to fit? I have no experience working with ti screws, hence the question. I have on occasion run into this issue with aftermarket stainless screws.

Thanks in advance for sharing your knowledge

[rockneharleyman]

Super idea..

[AZ_GUN_NUT]

I have 3/8" diameter titanium rods in my back. I have snapped one of them. I understand titanium can be brittle.

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I snapped 3 out of the 8 titanium screws holding my lower back together. Had to get it all redone with thicker screws.

[Dave Hoback]

Well, CP-Ti is the most widely used grade of Titanium in Biomedical uses. As it the most chemically pure, it has the lowest corrosion rate of high strength metals. However, it is not nearly as strong as Grade 5, 6AL4V, which is also used, but at a lower frequency.

[Robinhood]

Dave,
Those look nice. Have you ever used them with a non-chassis stock? If so, did you encounter any issues with the outside diameter of the ti socket head, pan head, or button head screws not fitting in the front action hole of the stock or the front trigger guard hole? If so, how did reduce the diameter to fit? I have no experience working with ti screws, hence the question. I have on occasion run into this issue with aftermarket stainless screws.

Thanks in advance for sharing your knowledge

You need a head diameter of .375 max to work in most stocks and chassis.

[Dave Hoback]

For factory stocks the sizes are 1-1/4” & 1-1/2” I believe. (Always measure regardless.) I do know these will work. I believe they are already right about .375 head diam. Worst case, just spin them in a drill a grind the heads down just a bit. Or, anyone who wanted them & can’t fit them, send ‘em my way & I would be happy to turn them down to proper head diameter, and mail ‘em back to you.

Again, anyone interested, measure your current screws & order the appropriate lengths here.
https://www.ti64.com/sae-fine-thread-screws-s/110756.htm

This is what they look like.
1-1/4”
https://i.ibb.co/K2nCcCW/D805-B8-EA-3504-4-A90-9692-1-AB049-AE6-E4-E.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

1-1/2”
https://i.ibb.co/Ssc1g9W/E59192-B6-DB86-4-F25-8917-8-FF5-DDB07-E17.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

[Stumpkiller]

First time I've seen Titanium! :thumb: Gotta give them a try.

I'm not going to run anything into my receiver that is stronger than my receiver. Who loses in a cross-thread?

Give me weak stainless, please.

[Dave Hoback]

Bolts for the Action aren’t designed or meant to be a “fail safe”. So I find your statement intriguing. I’m trying to think of a scenario in which this would even be a thing. Honestly, I would think the force necessary to rip out steel 1/4” Action threads is pretty gargantuan! I believe that level of trauma to the rifle would destroy it regardless. And having stronger threads on either the Male or Female side alone does not mean the weaker of the two can spontaneously strip out easier, under any normal conditions. In other words, having stronger screws does make the Action threads MORE prone to stripping, unless improperly torqued. I like really strong bolts & screws for anything I’m fastening. I’ve been a big fan of Titanium fasteners for many years. I use them in the custom knives I make, and replace screws in many factory folders. Also, understand while these are stronger… and I did say “much”, but we aren’t talking DOUBLE, TRIPLE strength here. Very honestly, and I did already say this, they don’t add anything special. I just really & truly enjoy Titanium parts. And wanted to share the things I’m doing. It’s a very neat material with some fascinating properties & characteristics. But I’m not telling people they need to get these to make their rifles run faster & jump higher! Of course not. So that’s all this was guys.

[Robinhood]

For factory stocks the sizes are 1-1/4” & 1-1/2” I believe. (Always measure regardless.) I do know these will work. I believe they are already right about .375 head diam. Worst case, just spin them in a drill a grind the heads down just a bit. Or, anyone who wanted them & can’t fit them, send ‘em my way & I would be happy to turn them down to proper head diameter, and mail ‘em back to you.

Again, anyone interested, measure your current screws & order the appropriate lengths here.
https://www.ti64.com/sae-fine-thread-screws-s/110756.htm

This is what they look like.
1-1/4”
https://i.ibb.co/K2nCcCW/D805-B8-EA-3504-4-A90-9692-1-AB049-AE6-E4-E.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

1-1/2”
https://i.ibb.co/Ssc1g9W/E59192-B6-DB86-4-F25-8917-8-FF5-DDB07-E17.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

Those are the style to use. I think the head is 7/16(maybe 13/32). They need to be turned to 3/8.