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bobcat30
11-22-2010, 11:50 PM
I would have to agree on the coolness factor! Love the 40 deg shoulders. Made my 243 into a 243ai and love this gun plus took a boring looking case and gave it some attitude!

gt40
11-23-2010, 02:57 AM
I have a Ruger MKII Target Gray with the target trigger that consistently shoots less than 1/2" at 100 yds. It has shot in the .1s many times also. How accurate is your friends Swift? If you are going to build a Savage why not a 6mm Norma BR or BRX? I had the Swift bug for years until I saw what the 6mm Norma BR. will do with less powder probably at least 5 times the barrel life and its accuracy will put any Swift to shame.

My Savage build cost me $1443 and shoots in the low .1s+.2s+.3s at 200 yds. and that is for 5 shots.

Take a look here where I was testing my new custom turret to see if I was on the paper at 400 yds:

http://forum.gon.com/showthread.php?t=564977&highlight=

http://forum.gon.com/showthread.php?t=574886&highlight=

gt40

PS: When we were shooting at the 2,000 yd. range in the picture we only got out to 1,200 yards and was hitting the gongs all the way out there. The other guys put their custom built "cannons" away and only shot mine. They were having trouble hitting the gongs with theirs.

bobcat30
11-23-2010, 08:13 AM
Just something we do. Not interested in a 6mm br interested in the swift just because i can be! Although this project may turn into a 22-250ai,blue avenger has some weird way of making me re think my thoughts. But the swift WILL be built. Thinkin it will happen when the 243ai barrel gets cooked and i have my 7 rem mag or stw i will then turn tha t long action into a swift

gt40
11-23-2010, 12:29 PM
With my experience with both the Swift and the 22-250 & 22-250AI the Swift is much easier to work up reloads for accuracy and for every really accurate 22-250 there were many more Swifts that were really accurate. The Swift has always been one of my favorite calibers. I had a friend years ago that changed his Swift barrel that he shot out to a 26" Hart barrel. It was the most accurate Swift I have ever seen. We never measured the group sizes, but I saw him shoot 5 five shot groups in a row that all had to be in the .05s" He did let the barrel cool down in between groups. I had a .243 back then that would shoot in the low .1s, but could never beat his Swift. By the way I never saw a 22-250 that would beat my .243.

I know that you will be very impressed with your Swift.

"Aim small miss small", ;D

gt40

bobcat30
11-23-2010, 09:06 PM
YEs this swift bug has turned into a disease!! Feeling sicker at the moment feeling the need for speed!!!! And would like to shoot that ant off that fence post 375 yrds away!!! ;D

bobcat30
11-23-2010, 09:07 PM
Now just need to come up with optimum barrel length and twist hmmmmm...... Contour? medium magnum,varmint straight taper?

gt40
11-24-2010, 04:43 AM
Have any of you ever seen one of these?

http://www.accuratereloading.com/22-243.html

http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=199228

gt40

Hammer
11-24-2010, 10:02 AM
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optimum barrel length and twist




Pac-Nor can make you a forty inch long barrel, but a 32 inch long one works OK.

Twists of 16 or 14 inches are traditional.

Have used 13 and 12 inch twists too.

All will work with the original 48 grain WW softpoint.


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bobcat30
11-24-2010, 10:14 AM
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optimum barrel length and twist




Pac-Nor can make you a forty inch long barrel, but a 32 inch long one works OK.

Twists of 16 or 14 inches are traditional.

Have used 13 and 12 inch twists too.

All will work with the original 48 grain WW softpoint.


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This isnt going to be a bench gun, I wanna hunt with it also so a 32 inch barrel isnt gonna work will a 26 get the job done?

Blue Avenger
11-24-2010, 11:08 AM
faster then a 22" would LOL I don't push mine most of the time anyway, they last longer. Most of my .22 loads are in the 3800fps.

Hammer
11-24-2010, 11:14 AM
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If you find 32 inch too long for hunting...

Thirty inch might work.

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bobcat30
11-24-2010, 07:32 PM
faster then a 22" would LOL I don't push mine most of the time anyway, they last longer. Most of my .22 loads are in the 3800fps.
So your sayin the 26 should be fine.HAmmer i see what your sayin but thirty is still long for carrying

Blue Avenger
11-24-2010, 07:43 PM
He is just trying to keep you in rifles and not falling into the carbine trap LOL (under 30")

Uncle Jack
11-24-2010, 10:33 PM
Hell, I thought he was trying to sell some extra tall gun cabinets.

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bobcat30
11-24-2010, 11:17 PM
LOL i get it now! Yeah thinkin the 26 inch 12 twist is the route im gunna take. Still deciding on contour. Other thing is would this round feed better from a stagger or center feed magazine? Reason im asking is some say because of the rim on the case may have feeding problems for a repeater, and i def want a repeater i believe.

Blue Avenger
11-24-2010, 11:53 PM
You just have to watch how you load it, so the top rim is ahead of the one under it. Never have had an issue at any time with any I have had, Savage or Rem.

Hammer
11-25-2010, 12:00 AM
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The cowboys who double as gun bearers have never complained about carrying rifles.

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Blue Avenger
11-25-2010, 10:51 AM
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The cowboys who double as gun bearers have never complained about carrying rifles.

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what about the shetlands that have to carry the gun and the cowboy?

Hammer
11-25-2010, 11:15 AM
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Each prairie dog rifle can be mounted on a caisson drawn by four Shetland ponies.

You can then make a formation appropriate for the attack on the prairie dog town.

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Hammer
11-25-2010, 11:19 AM
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Keep in mind that only fixed-power scopes with external windage and elevation adjustments in the mounts are suitable for Swifts.

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