Which model for packing...280 ackley for long range

[99 K 30-30]

None of above.

If you want a rifle to pack, the #1 choice would be the SIG crossfire in 277 Fury, 2nd place to the Kimber Adirondack in any chambering.

I have a Fury on backorder. It is the ultimate "walk about" rifles, 270 WCF performance in 16" bbl with my GEMTECH ONE in the backpack.

Currently my Adirondack with the perfect NightForce 2.5-10x32 (discontinued) in 6.5 Creedmore suffices.

[Robinhood]

None of above.

If you want a rifle to pack, the #1 choice would be the SIG crossfire in 277 Fury, 2nd place to the Kimber Adirondack in any chambering.

I have a Fury on backorder. It is the ultimate "walk about" rifles, 270 WCF performance in 16" bbl with my GEMTECH ONE in the backpack.

Currently my Adirondack with the perfect NightForce 2.5-10x32 (discontinued) in 6.5 Creedmore suffices.


If what you say is true there will never be any ammo on the shelves because everyone will have one. Fortunately for other rifle manufacturers, not everyone feels the same way. I know of a couple of Marine snipers and a couple of more army/CC spec ops guys that are not that impressed with that system. The Sig Fury as a personal rifle that is. Of coarse none of them would have a Savage either.

All of them like the M40A1 and the M24 in 300 winmag.

[yobuck]

As i said to Charlie, the OP has it figured out even before his post.
For sure he wont go wrong with the cartridge he chose.

[99 K 30-30]

The 280 AI is a good round. I have owned two. But for a "walk-about" rifle it offers nothing that an inexpensive older 700 in 7mm RemMag will not do. An early minty stainless 26" bbled 7mm Remmag will blow away any 280 AI for less money than any Savage.

As for ex snipers, dollar to a dime neither has ever seen, not to mention shot a 277 Fury or Adirondack. You want to drag around an M40 or M24, bless you. 10 pounds all up.

My last 280 AI that w/a 28" bbl was no longer than a typical 24" 7 mag bolt gun and as fast too.

https://i.imgur.com/JT1h5S4.jpg

[want2ride]

The 280 AI is a good round. I have owned two. But for a "walk-about" rifle it offers nothing that an inexpensive older 700 in 7mm RemMag will not do. An early minty stainless 26" bbled 7mm Remmag will blow away any 280 AI for less money than any Savage.

As for ex snipers, dollar to a dime neither has ever seen, not to mention shot a 277 Fury or Adirondack. You want to drag around an M40 or M24, bless you. 10 pounds all up.

My last 280 AI that w/a 28" bbl was no longer than a typical 24" 7 mag bolt gun and as fast too.

https://i.imgur.com/JT1h5S4.jpg
I am sure we all agree that a 7mm rem mag is faster than a 280ai.
I think we all agree that a 280ai will have less recoil than a 7mm rem mag with the same weight gun and the same projectile.
i think it is pretty obvious that a used Remington should be cheaper than a new savage (if that is what you are saying).... but what about a used Savage?
You seem to be out to prove something, but i am not really sure what it is you are trying to prove.

[99 K 30-30]

Not "proving" anything. Just the inconvenient truth.
As I read it, the OP wanted a "walkabout" rifle with the same point blank range, killing power and weight as a 280 AI

If he's willing to lug a full size, long action bolt gun, a used 26" stainless older 700 in 7mm Remmag is a better buy than any Savage 280 AI. Recoil is not an issue when hunting and, of course, the Big Green 7 can be handloaded down to 7mm TCU levels if you wish.

If as he implies, weight and "handiness" are core needs, the SIG and the Kimber are probably the best choices.

The only Savage coming close is the ultra-light that does not come in 280 AI and is longer OAL.

The Fury, as all SIG products, is a great item. Those who think otherwise have never seen/handles/shot one.

https://www.shootingillustrated.com/articles/2020/11/6/first-shots-sig-sauer-cross-rifle

[want2ride]

The ultralite does come in 280ai

[99 K 30-30]

Hmm, still a pound heavier and over a foot longer than the SIG with no better ballistics.

https://www.sigsauer.com/sig-cross-rifle.html

[charlie b]

Don't you mean a pound lighter than the Sig? The Sig is listed with 6.5lb weight. The Ultralite is 5.85 in .280AI. Why would it be a foot longer? 22" barrel on the Savage 16" on the Sig? To me that's only 6" difference. They are close enough in price to be competitive.

I don't disagree that the Sig might be a better rifle, but, in what way? I would bet resell value is better.

The Kimber is an 18" barrel and lighter than both, but, quite a bit more expensive and is only avail in 6.5CM, 7-08 and 308.

[99 K 30-30]

The OP wanted to pack it, The SIG folds and is waaaay shorter.

[Robinhood]

The rifle I bought but have never seen or shot is the only option. There is no other option.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vM0eq_FfDNs

All rifles except the 280AI

Sig cross recall (https://www.guns.com/news/2020/11/30/sig-sauer-recalls-all-cross-bolt-action-rifles)

[99 K 30-30]

and you have bought and shot how many carbon fiber Savage 280 AIs ? Laffin.

[Robinhood]

and you have bought and shot how many carbon fiber Savage 280 AIs ? Laffin.


The actions are the same. I have owned quite a few. I have a lot of knowledge on the action. I have three carbon fiber wrapped barrels. The are a vast improvement over the factory CS or SS. I can fix my browning A5. Laugh it up funny boy.

[99 K 30-30]

1. so you own none now.
2. so you don't own a Browning patent savage.
3. you don't own and have no 280 AI
and finally:
4. you have never seen a SIG (except in photos) never handled or shot one (or probably a Kimber Adirondack as well)

As for "packing/walk about rifles" very little of that done from a pirogue (been there done that)

Such a font of knowledge could only be found on the internet !

[charlie b]

This is getting a bit deep for me. You guys beat your chests some more.

[prdatr]

1. so you own none now.
2. so you don't own a Browning patent savage.
3. you don't own and have no 280 AI
and finally:
4. you have never seen a SIG (except in photos) never handled or shot one (or probably a Kimber Adirondack as well)

As for "packing/walk about rifles" very little of that done from a pirogue (been there done that)

Such a font of knowledge could only be found on the internet !

What's your problem dude? Go find another Forum to brow beat people. Your attitude isn't welcome here.

[yobuck]

This is getting a bit deep for me. You guys beat your chests some more.
Dont let it rattle you Charlie, remember that the OP does have a handle on it.

[99 K 30-30]

My oh my, more SJW warriors who never had to stand up for themselves.

I presented the facts, they have not been refuted only whined about.

Best of luck.

[charlie b]

Dont let it rattle you Charlie, remember that the OP does have a handle on it.


Yep, he does.

[UrbanRedneck]

The winner. High Country in ackley. Figured with the fluted barrel and bolt that it would only be a little heavier than the ultra lite. And I have an old 110 20" in 30-06 in case I ever feel like this ackley will be too heavy.

https://www.savagearms.com/DAM/assets/web/1400/1908288.png