NEW Savage Impulse Action

[Newtosavage]

I just can't say I have any interest in something like this, and I'm a big fan of Savage rifles. I can work a conventional bolt as fast as I need to in any hunting situation. If I need faster, then I'll get a semi-auto for the task (such as when I'm after sounders of pigs and I use my Mini-30). The difference in speed between a conventional bolt-action and this straight-pull is negligible. It would have had to have other significant benefits for me to even consider it. I don't see those. And I'm not a fan of closed-top receivers (axis, Tikka, etc). So that's a non-starter for me.

Ya'll have fun though.

[J.Baker]

Just watching an interview with Jessica Teglia of Savage, she implied that the Impulse action is akin to the Axis in that there is just one action length with different one-piece bottom metal to dictate whether it is a long or short action.

Got verification on this from Savage today. The actions for the Impulse are dedicated for long or short just like the 110's.

[gbflyer]

I like it. If it functions well in the dirt, snow, freezing rain and mud they will have a real winner there. Of course there are probably more tree stand hunters so it’ll probably be popular either way.

[JeepsAndGuns]

I wonder how well it will handle a stuck case? Or one that was either a bad factory round, or too hot of a handload, enough to where you would have to hammer the bolt open on a normal bolt action.

All in all, it is a very interesting. Wonder if they will make it in smaller calibers like 223?

[steve_podleski]

This is the same action as a Heym straight pull. This new savage will get me back into the savage game. Barrel nut and a straight pull I am in!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-44H321Bsg

[Dr2g1988]

I would buy if they made it in 223 and put a brake on it with the barrel being a 1-7 twist rate. That or the new 6.8 westerner looks sweet.

[Newtosavage]

I would buy if they made it in 223 and put a brake on it with the barrel being a 1-7 twist rate. That or the new 6.8 westerner looks sweet.

Now one of those in .300BO threaded for a suppressor might be fun on pigs. I'd be on board with that.

[Gavin_UT]

Hello. New on the forum, but not to firearms. I am thinking the machining to keep tighter tolerances should be easier. Cutting a radial groove as opposed to lugs? I am hopeful. My local store has 3 on order. I looked at other fortner actions as they came out, but could not afford the heym, anschutz or blazer.
I like my K31, but its bulky.

[indianasavage]

I would buy if they made it in 223 and put a brake on it with the barrel being a 1-7 twist rate. That or the new 6.8 westerner looks sweet.

Does your husband enjoy shooting also? A little .223 doesn’t need a brake.

[indianasavage]

Savage copies the Heym action design and calls it the “Impulse”. We get pissed when the Chinese do this.

[tammons]

I have been thinking about a straight pull modern rifle for quite a while so this is good news.

I have a K31 straight pull, and straight pull is pretty nice.

[Olink]

I cannot figure out why the Predator model isn't being offered in .223. IMHO very dumb on Savage's part.

[tammons]

I cannot figure out why the Predator model isn't being offered in .223. IMHO very dumb on Savage's part.

I would imagine they will eventually.

[AbitNutz]

I cannot figure out why the Predator model isn't being offered in .223. IMHO very dumb on Savage's part.

I know it's an added expense, but you can easily make the Predator a terrific 223. Buy one of the many off the shelf pre-fit barrels in 223 and an AICS magazine and presto-chango you have one, and likely a better one because the barrel you've bought will be superior.

Well, maybe not. I just looked and saw they don't offer a cartridge with the same 223 rim diameter. I thought I saw they offered 300 Blackout, but I was wrong. Yeah, dumb. This is their first offering so let's hope it's a sales success and they flood the market with different versions...like they do with the 110.

[J.Baker]

I suspect the lack of a .223 option probably is due to one of two things. The first would simply be that since the .223 would require a different bolt head arrangement they decided not to include it in the first stage of the launch but will come sometime later when they expand the line. The second possible reason could be a feeding reliability issue between the Impulses bolt design and the AICS .223 mag's.

Savage has never offered Axis/110 rifles in .223 setup to take AR15 magazines for the latter reason - the feed lips on AR mags simply aren't compatible with their bolt design. If you look at a Mossberg Patriot (basically a copy of a Savage 110) in .223 that uses the AR mags, you'll note that the bolt head has a very unique and obvious difference that allows it to work with the AR mags. Could be a similar issue with the 223 AICS mags.

This is the one negative attributes of a "one size fits all" action design. There will always be some cartridges that simply can't/won't feed well from it and it usually ends up being the smaller diameter cartridges because the actions are primarily designed around and sized for standard diameter cartridges which account for the vast majority of rifles they will build and sell.

[JeepsAndGuns]

I suspect the lack of a .223 option probably is due to one of two things. The first would simply be that since the .223 would require a different bolt head arrangement they decided not to include it in the first stage of the launch but will come sometime later when they expand the line. The second possible reason could be a feeding reliability issue between the Impulses bolt design and the AICS .223 mag's.

Savage has never offered Axis/110 rifles in .223 setup to take AR15 magazines for the latter reason - the feed lips on AR mags simply aren't compatible with their bolt design. If you look at a Mossberg Patriot (basically a copy of a Savage 110) in .223 that uses the AR mags, you'll note that the bolt head has a very unique and obvious difference that allows it to work with the AR mags. Could be a similar issue with the 223 AICS mags.

This is the one negative attributes of a "one size fits all" action design. There will always be some cartridges that simply can't/won't feed well from it and it usually ends up being the smaller diameter cartridges because the actions are primarily designed around and sized for standard diameter cartridges which account for the vast majority of rifles they will build and sell.

I built a 223 off of a 110 tactical. I am using a MDT 223 AICS style mag. So far it seems to pick up and feed just fine. It can have a little bit of a issue if the COL is overly short (very light bullets) or very long (longer than spec). If they are too short (like 40-45gr bullets) the bullet tip may catch under the feed ramp. But I rarely shoot bullets than short. If long (like when shooting 80gr seated to get it closer to the lands) the bullet tip can hit the breech face of the barrel just below the chamber. That happens about half the time. (I cycle gently so I don't push the bullets in)
I figured a little work on the feed lips (maybe shorten them) might fix the issue. I just have not got around to buying another mag to mod to try.

Now feeding from AR mags is a whole different story. I chose the AICS style because I can load to longer than spec and still be able to use the mag.