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Savgelife
09-15-2020, 05:09 PM
Hello there, I am just getting into some long range shooting amd have a question, i mounted an athlon argos btr gen2 6x24 on my savage 110 tactical 6.5 prc, rifle came with 20moa base, after zeroing i have a little over 11 mils of adjustment, i am curious is that seems normal or something not right. It says the scope comes with 18mil of adjustment 9 up 9 down i assume. Any help is appreciated.

Apollo117
09-15-2020, 05:40 PM
11 Mils of adjustment in which direction? I'm assuming downwards, but I could be wrong.

9 mils of adjustment up and down isn't a great range for a scope.

Savgelife
09-15-2020, 05:44 PM
11 Mils of adjustment in which direction? I'm assuming downwards, but I could be wrong.

9 mils of adjustment up and down isn't a great range for a scope.

According to the website it says 18 mils of adjustment, not sure if that means 9 and 9, but that 11 mils is up.

hamiltonkiler
09-15-2020, 06:36 PM
11mils on a 6.5 is a long way out. Way further than your going to shoot. Especially since it’s on a 20moa base. Zero the bullet is still rising and won’t get back to zero for a while. So really dialing out will start further.

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hamiltonkiler
09-15-2020, 06:38 PM
11mils is past 1k on my .223


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Savgelife
09-15-2020, 06:44 PM
Ya from my research it shows its well enough mil for 1k yards, i just want to make it seems normal.

Apollo117
09-15-2020, 07:55 PM
Just to clear it up, my statement was not "9 Mils isn't great range for the cartridge."

Sorry for the segway. 11 Mils adjustment up with a 20 MOA rail seems odd to me. 11 Mils adjustment down to compensate for the rail makes sense to me.

celltech
09-15-2020, 08:11 PM
I have a Savage where I only had 7 mils left and needed to install a 20 MOA mount to get some more useable travel. I would say 11 is not so great considering the rail is there, but it's certainly useable.

bc160
09-15-2020, 10:09 PM
Just a thought since I have done it myself. Any chance the 20moa mount is on backwards

Savgelife
09-15-2020, 10:10 PM
Just a thought since I have done it myself. Any chance the 20moa mount is on backwards

It doesnt appear, it came that way from factory.

yobuck
09-16-2020, 09:07 AM
[QUOTE=hamiltonkiler;478963]11mils on a 6.5 is a long way out. Way further than your going to shoot. Especially since it’s on a 20moa base. Zero the bullet is still rising and won’t get back to zero for a while. So really dialing out will start further.

Cheers
Must be a typo, we all know that bullets dont rise after leaving the muzzel.
Even from a 6.5. lol
They do rise above the site line however which is no doubt what the poster meant.
I guess you could calculate how much the bullet drops at the longest distance you might be shooting and decide if you have enough to get it there.
If not just swap out the base for a 30 minit one and use the 20 on another gun.

Onewolf
10-11-2020, 02:15 PM
As a general rule to calculate the theoretical max elevation I divide the base mount MOA (20moa) by 4.38 to convert to mils 20/4.38 = 4.56 mils. Divide the maximum mils elevation of the scope (18) by 2 and you get 9 mils (up/down). Add the 4.56mils of the scope base and the 9 mils for the scope and I approximate the max theoretical elevation of the combo is 14.56 mils. At least that's how it works in _my_ head. :)

Btw, Athlon tends to slightly underrate the max elevation adjustment of their scopes. My Midas TAC 5-25x56 is specced as 32 mils of elevation but when I tested it it came out to 34.5 mils. My Mida TAC 6-24x50 is specced as 25 mils but testing showed it as 26 mils of elevation.

Robinhood
10-11-2020, 03:55 PM
Onewolf, my calculations to convert 20 MOA is 5.81 mils. Do you have a reference for your calculations?

1 mil = 3.438 MOA
20 MOA/ 3.438 = 5.81mils

Based on my calculations a 20 moa base is a 5.81 mil base.

Onewolf
10-12-2020, 02:17 PM
Onewolf, my calculations to convert 20 MOA is 5.81 mils. Do you have a reference for your calculations?

1 mil = 3.438 MOA
20 MOA/ 3.438 = 5.81mils

Based on my calculations a 20 moa base is a 5.81 mil base.

I think I pretty much FUBARed that calculation.... Yes, 20 moa is 5.81 mils. I would like to blame Capt Morgan, but that's not the case. :)